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We love the Italians, don't we?  Nobody loves the Italians like me.

https://www.npr.org/2025/10/11/nx-s1-5570093/columbus-day-trump-proclamation

In his proclamation, Trump accuses "left-wing arsonists" of trying to "destroy [Columbus'] name and dishonor his memory."

 

How Columbus Sailed Into U.S. History, Thanks To Italians

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In reality, Christopher Columbus never stepped foot on the North American Mainland. (The Viking from Iceland Leif Erikson is believed to though, about 500 years earlier)

Christopher Columbus never "discovered" anything that didn't already contain people who found it first. 

Christopher Columbus never "proved" the world was round in his voyages. During the time before his first voyage, the round Earth theory was already gaining popularity as well.

Christopher Columbus never realized the Central and South American Coasts were those a new continent- believing them to be part of Asia until his death.

The ships Nina, Pinta, and Santa Maria were actually named la Santa Clara, la Pinta, and la Santa Gallega. The other names commonly known by people were nicknames.

As Governor he was especially cruel to the Native Populations of the Indies, cutting off their hands for not paying his taxes, executing, and raping others. His cruelty even extended to the Spanish Colonists and in 1499 he was arrested by the Spanish Government for crimes against them, taken back to Spain and stripped of his titles.

The first English colony in North America wasn't established until 1607. Well over 100 years after Columbus's first voyage to the West Indies. He had practically zero impact on the development or origins of the United States. 

History is too interesting, and too many lessons can be learned from it to spread false narratives about it. Changing the names of holidays and celebrations because we have a better understanding of history isn't "erasing history" either- it's celebrating real history.

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26 minutes ago, ROFL BOX said:

We love the Italians, don't we?  Nobody loves the Italians like me.

https://www.npr.org/2025/10/11/nx-s1-5570093/columbus-day-trump-proclamation

In his proclamation, Trump accuses "left-wing arsonists" of trying to "destroy [Columbus'] name and dishonor his memory."

 

How Columbus Sailed Into U.S. History, Thanks To Italians

× x × x × x × x × x × x × x × x

In reality, Christopher Columbus never stepped foot on the North American Mainland. (The Viking from Iceland Leif Erikson is believed to though, about 500 years earlier)

Christopher Columbus never "discovered" anything that didn't already contain people who found it first. 

Christopher Columbus never "proved" the world was round in his voyages. During the time before his first voyage, the round Earth theory was already gaining popularity as well.

Christopher Columbus never realized the Central and South American Coasts were those a new continent- believing them to be part of Asia until his death.

The ships Nina, Pinta, and Santa Maria were actually named la Santa Clara, la Pinta, and la Santa Gallega. The other names commonly known by people were nicknames.

As Governor he was especially cruel to the Native Populations of the Indies, cutting off their hands for not paying his taxes, executing, and raping others. His cruelty even extended to the Spanish Colonists and in 1499 he was arrested by the Spanish Government for crimes against them, taken back to Spain and stripped of his titles.

The first English colony in North America wasn't established until 1607. Well over 100 years after Columbus's first voyage to the West Indies. He had practically zero impact on the development or origins of the United States. 

History is too interesting, and too many lessons can be learned from it to spread false narratives about it. Changing the names of holidays and celebrations because we have a better understanding of history isn't "erasing history" either- it's celebrating real history.

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His feats of navigation were fairly incredible, considering he made four trips back in forth in ships that were 50-70 feet long and he sailed by the stars and dead-reckoning. 

His first voyage took two months across unknown seas, so yeah, it was impressive.

It's difficult to judge someone from antiquity by our standards. Spain was emerging from 800 years of Moorish rule. Much of it was brutal and it shaped their world-view. The cruelty he exhibited was fairly standard for the times. Anyone who loves history, and I assume you do, knows humans kinda suck.  

And his discoveries laid the path for development of the New World, so yes, he had a huge impact on the eventual forming of the United States. 

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1 hour ago, TreatyOak said:

His feats of navigation were fairly incredible, considering he made four trips back in forth in ships that were 50-70 feet long and he sailed by the stars and dead-reckoning. 

His first voyage took two months across unknown seas, so yeah, it was impressive.

It's difficult to judge someone from antiquity by our standards. Spain was emerging from 800 years of Moorish rule. Much of it was brutal and it shaped their world-view. The cruelty he exhibited was fairly standard for the times. Anyone who loves history, and I assume you do, knows humans kinda suck.  

And his discoveries laid the path for development of the New World, so yes, he had a huge impact on the eventual forming of the United States. 

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