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The state of College Football - Bitch Thread

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Just now, TwiceHorn said:

Well, it seems like they're self-helping to specific performance.

People generally are permitted to breach contracts and suffer the consequences.

I never said they're not. Simply disagreeing that UW is the bad guy here because of "vibez"

I am perfectly fine with Washington holding firm on this. They'll eventually be forced to let him go but I appreciate the effort at trying to plug the dike.

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College sports is turning into a playground for the capricious whims of billionaire oligarchs and its gonna get ugly. I know it sounds great if you're one of the lucky teams but these people are not your friends they will ruin college football and strangle everything we love about it.

7 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

College sports is turning into a playground for the capricious whims of billionaire oligarchs and its gonna get ugly. I know it sounds great if you're one of the lucky teams but these people are not your friends they will ruin college football and strangle everything we love about it.

Sounds familiar.

4 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

The reason I like that is that I think UT is going to have an easier time making "realistic" NIL deals than say Texas Tech.

You don't think there's a lot of money in Valtrex?

1 year rosters calls for a much bigger Gm and scouting dept

saban is teeing up a golf ball at his ultra exclusive country club and laughing his ass off

14 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

College sports is turning into a playground for the capricious whims of billionaire oligarchs and its gonna get ugly. I know it sounds great if you're one of the lucky teams but these people are not your friends they will ruin college football and strangle everything we love about it.

Texas fans lamenting the spending in college football is certainly a take.

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3 minutes ago, Iceman said:

Texas fans lamenting the spending in college football is certainly a take.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Without all of the conferences coming to some kind of an agreement or collective bargaining I don't know how any of this changes. The big 10 rev share contracts are a step in the right direction for stability but anything with 1 year contracts doesn't fix this. Players need paid and they need the ability to make decisions in their interest. If rev share agreements for freshman were 2 years binding, transfers in were 1 year and any student on campus after 2 years was given 1 year contracts that might provide more stability. For it to work though every conference would have to offer it as the standard model.

That's a pretty good idea, but you can't do a setup like that without a CBA because the first player to sue will win and then it will get thrown out.

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1 hour ago, mdmost said:

I am perfectly fine with Washington holding firm on this. They'll eventually be forced to let him go but I appreciate the effort at trying to plug the dike.

He can just go enroll at school wherever the fuck he wants and play football. This is all so mind numbingly stupid.

Needing an anti-trust exemption and some form of collective oversight is kind of a given at this point.

I'd add to that, that the equivalent of an associates degree should be required to transfer the first time. And either the right of refusal or right of first offer be given to the home team.

Imagine being a Cyclone and you don’t make the cut for Matt Campbell to take you to Penn State LOL.

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17 hours ago, JBJ said:

Needing an anti-trust exemption and some form of collective oversight is kind of a given at this point.

I'd add to that, that the equivalent of an associates degree should be required to transfer the first time. And either the right of refusal or right of first offer be given to the home team.

Should be one transfer as an undergrad, then one grad transfer. I’d be fine with a minimum credit hour rule like this, too. Exception if the HC leaves or dies.

20 hours ago, bschoolprof said:

I see why Sark wanted/wants to go to the NFL. Being a college HC now is a total fucking beating. You are both a GM and a HC in a league that has no commissioner, no CBA, no salary cap, unrestricted free agency, no draft, amateur "agents," really no rules at all. You have to source talent both through the intensive HS recruiting process and the free-agent market. Both involve $$$$ and bullshit. It's total fucking chaos.

Between my wife fucking around and this bullshit, I'd fall off the wagon too. And whatever skills he had as a HC prior to this era of CFB, I'm not sure he has the skillset to succeed now. Few do. It's an entirely new job description. A brave new world.

Saban was right to retire when he did. He was a builder from a different era. This is no country for old men.

/rant over.

Small correction. Many blue blood top universities/programs have a competent GM.

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Compared to say Mark Pantoni

Or Marshall Malchow

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Maybe I'm naive, but is Harris really a GM, like an NFL GM? He is young and is paid like a RB coach. I think Sark is the real GM (calling the shots on roster and pay), as are most HC in college. I'd always assumed Harris is just Sark's errand boy and hatchet man when he has to cut pay.

Seems the agent wasn't on board with the jumping in the portal scheme?


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Demond Williams’ agent, Doug Hendrickson of Wasserman Football, cuts ties with Williams.

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Probably had to or he would have been blackballed by most schools who don't want to put up with shit like that.

I'm glad somebody started this thread. Texas football was the only sport I have ever religiously followed. However, the current state of college football is ridiculous garbage. The draw of college football has always been about school pride, rivalries, and the pageantry of the sport. I enjoyed watching players develop throughout their careers and play for the loyalty and pride of The University of Texas and for their teammates. Getting to watch players like Earl Campbell, Derrick Johnson, Roy Williams, Ricky Williams, Vince Young, etc. throughout their careers in a packed stadium was fun. You can't even get excited to see what new recruits can become or root for your favorite players in burnt orange anymore because they will be gone the next year chasing money. I'm not sure what college football is now but it isn't what I grew up with and isn't joyful anymore. It is a less talented version of the NFL, which I don't care about for the very same reasons. Watching these kids have no pride for the university or loyalty to their teammates is just sad and has just about choked the last breath out of what was once the greatest sport. Nobody cares about bowl games...only the playoffs. Nobody cares about the team...only their next payday. Nobody cares about the legacy...only immediate gratification. Nobody cares about the rivalries...only playing time. Yep, college football is hot garbage and not worth the price of admission.

I'll see y'all tomorrow. Lol

22 hours ago, bschoolprof said:

Maybe I'm naive, but is Harris really a GM, like an NFL GM? He is young and is paid like a RB coach. I think Sark is the real GM (calling the shots on roster and pay), as are most HC in college. I'd always assumed Harris is just Sark's errand boy and hatchet man when he has to cut pay.

Bingo. We’re fucked

The average age of Indiana’s roster is over 22– older than the average college grad. I tip my hat to Cignetti for playing the game. But college football is too old, and that’s crazy. I want to see hypertalented young players and all the craziness that brings, not grown men doing jobs.

On 1/7/2026 at 9:35 AM, Atticus said:

Can’t have a bitch thread without this fella

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Need a vomit reaction back on the menu for this one. Not really bothered he left but Jesus I won’t let my kids consider OU for college it’s 100% off limits. PL coulda gotten paid somewhere else there’s no doubt. Fucking jagoff.

58 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The average age of Indiana’s roster is over 22– older than the average college grad. I tip my hat to Cignetti for playing the game. But college football is too old, and that’s crazy. I want to see hypertalented young players and all the craziness that brings, not grown men doing jobs.

You will take your 27 year old QBs and like it, mister!

Demond Williams going back to UW with his tail between his legs. Likely only because his agent was going to sue him for getting a deal with a 3rd party.

The real loser in the Williams saga is Lane Kiffin and I think that’s beautiful.

Also, watching ugly contract battles and trade demands where you wonder how a player will actually perform once back in a uniform was for sure one of the cool parts of pro football, so glad it’s now at the college level!

On 1/7/2026 at 12:24 PM, Foosters said:

I never said they're not. Simply disagreeing that UW is the bad guy here because of "vibez"

For sure.

Although it's not strictly legal, there is a "moral" component to contracts. Breach them regularly or flagrantly, and you're a piece of shit; not a man of your word, etc.

But, these contracts are pretty interesting in that the normal standard of damages would be the cost of acquiring an equivalent player, less what you had agreed to pay the breaching player, which is going to be nigh unto impossible to prove given that the value of players is so intangible and incapable of estimation. And that might be a fact supporting specific performance (unique goods or services), meaning holding a player to their contract.

A reasonable fiction might be School 1 signs a player for X, then School 2 offers X+Y and player breaches with School 1 and signs with school 2. There could be a presumption that player's value is the higher of the two, X+Y, and therefore player/School 2 owes Y to School 1.

Would there be legal reasons why an agreement between schools that sets punitive damages for court-proven tampering cases (i.e., tortious interference in the courts) would be illegal.

So in your example, the courts say that School 2 owes School 1 $Y in damages, but the NCAA states that because tampering has been proven in court, School 2 additionally owes School 1 $10 million in NCAA-levied punitive damages.

15 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Would there be legal reasons why an agreement between schools that sets punitive damages for court-proven tampering cases (i.e., tortious interference in the courts) would be illegal.

So in your example, the courts say that School 2 owes School 1 $Y in damages, but the NCAA states that because tampering has been proven in court, School 2 additionally owes School 1 $10 million in NCAA-levied punitive damages.

Yes. Liquidated damages expressly cannot be used as a penalty or punitively in most jurisdictions. They could be proper in these circumstances because a) the damages are hard to quantify in the first place and b) they could be a reasonable estimation of the damages. Penalty or punitive damages aren't usually available in breach of contract cases and are expressly excluded from "reasonable estimations" in the case of liquidated or agreed damages.

I am just talking about breach of contract, though.

Tortious interference can be used two ways, as an independent cause of action that might have more damages than a simple breach, or just as a way to make the interfering institution liable for the breach (so same damages, different party). Tortious interference can support punitive damages for fuckery.

That's before we start creating statutory causes of action that attach extra consequences for fuckery. Note that such a statute would have to come from a legislature, most likely, rather than NCAA or CSC.

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Chris Fowler said some long snapper, not in the portal, got 27 calls from schools asking for his price

If Texas and other schools are gonna start focusing on smaller rosters does this mean we will no longer have 85 scholarships available?

Damn this thread is depressing.

I wonder if individual jersey sales are down lately.

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