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56 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

We don't even know that she actually died.

53 minutes ago, kevwun said:

There is serious fuckery involved.  There are so many possibilities it's impossible to know what actually happened at this point.  I wouldn't bet a dollar on any of them right now.

Yeah, some fuckery is certainly involved.

Some of the photos/videos of him standing with his hands on his head after the explosion looking distraught, there was something blurred by his feet. 

A friend who saw the aftermath of quite a few bombings in Afghanistan, said he’s seen suicide bombings where the head was almost perfectly intact, but that was open-air.  He does not think a face/head would be intact if she had been in the car. He wondered if she had been outside the car and blown out into the street, and was maybe the blurry thing at Dugin’s feet.  

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https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-08-23-22/h_a464f4704f71e89c36e97206e220d32b

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Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Tuesday reiterated Turkey’s position that Ankara supports Ukraine's territorial integrity and rejects Russia's 2014 annexation of Crimea, according to the state-run Anadolu agency.

Erdogan said in a video message to the Second Crimea Platform Summit in Kyiv that Crimea must be returned to Ukraine. 

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"The return of Crimea to Ukraine, of which it is an inseparable part, is essentially a requirement of international law," Erdogan said

Erdogan said Ankara will continue to support the Crimean Platform, which was established to resolve the Crimean issue through peaceful means.

 

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If a politicians daughter had just been in a car bombing, do you think he would still be at the scene? I get wanting to be there as a parent but don’t you think security would take you somewhere else? Someone was just trying to kill you yet you’re standing in the middle of the road…I get it. It’s russia, nothing makes sense. Then you might think, “maybe he didn’t have security.” That could be but then why was there multiple cars and what sounded like some sort of “plan”. 

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11 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I'm callin it now: Erdogan will want some kind of Turkish sphere of influence in Crimea because the Ottomans once ruled it, and in the law of Balkans/Middle Eastern conflict resolution is: If your great x infinity grandpappy took a squat in somebody's garden, then it is yours forever.

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20 minutes ago, Royalfan5 said:

Are we really wondering if the people that stuffed and/or pickled Lenin couldn't come up with enough taxidermy supplies to have an open casket funeral? 

Dude this is surly world..we're still bitching on the Saul thread whether Skylar was a bitchy wife or not.

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1 hour ago, Royalfan5 said:

Are we really wondering if the people that stuffed and/or pickled Lenin couldn't come up with enough taxidermy supplies to have an open casket funeral? 

In two days?  From an explosion where this happened - "When Dugina "turned onto the Mozhaiskoye highway near the village of Bolshiye Vyazemi, there was an explosion, the car caught fire immediately," Krasnov told TASS. The flames completely engulfed it. She lost control because she was driving at high speed and flew to the opposite side of the road," Krasnov added, as cited by TASS."   

So two days from the explosion and being burned up to a perfect open casket funeral.   They are so good it is almost unbelievable. 

But to see how good they are, within 1-2 days they knew not just the explosive used, but the exact amount "Russian officials said the explosive device was attached under the car "on the driver's side," and 400g of TNT was used, according to TASS."

Again, it's hard to believe the FSB is this good.   But saying that could get you arrested in Russia, so we know it's true!

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It's great than she takes the time to do her makeup and nails before dropping mortars.
Do my hair toss
Check my nails
Baby how you feelin'?
Feeling good as hell
Hair toss
Check my nails
Baby how you feelin'?
Feeling good as hell

Woo child, tired of the bullshit
Go on dust your shoulders off, keep it moving on those Russian something something.

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3 hours ago, ABSR said:

In two days?  From an explosion where this happened - "When Dugina "turned onto the Mozhaiskoye highway near the village of Bolshiye Vyazemi, there was an explosion, the car caught fire immediately," Krasnov told TASS. The flames completely engulfed it. She lost control because she was driving at high speed and flew to the opposite side of the road," Krasnov added, as cited by TASS."   

So two days from the explosion and being burned up to a perfect open casket funeral.   They are so good it is almost unbelievable. 

But to see how good they are, within 1-2 days they knew not just the explosive used, but the exact amount "Russian officials said the explosive device was attached under the car "on the driver's side," and 400g of TNT was used, according to TASS."

Again, it's hard to believe the FSB is this good.   But saying that could get you arrested in Russia, so we know it's true!

And they knew the assassin both entered Russia and left Russia with a cat.  That’s some detailed detective work.  Why mention a cat, or talk about how you knew what routes they took, unless you’re trying to flesh out a fake profile.

At this point, I put it at:

  • 70% chance it was Putin/FSB sending a message to others that he can/will kill anybody, and/or a false flag (and she’s either not dead or was killed outside of the car, hence the face looking okay)
  • 25% chance it was an oligarch sending a message to Putin or others
  • 5% chance it was some breakaway group in Russia

Killing her or Dugin does absolutely nothing for Ukraine.  Nothing.  He’s not a Russian government official or military commander, whose death would have a direct impact on military operations.. His or her deaths would not make Ukrainian soldiers and civilians stand up and cheer, nor would it impact the typical Russian soldier or peasant, and both the Ukrainians and typical Russians are going “who the fuck was she?” Because she wasn’t known outside of far-right wing circles in Russia, and his fame wasn’t that much better - he was not important enough to be provided with security or given cushy and lucrative jobs by Putin (he didn’t have a government job or official title), and the typical Russian civilian or soldier would not have read his books.

He/she were absolutely expendable to Putin, and in fact Dugin was wanting Putin to do more, and some of his comments about Ukrainians as a people  could be seen as working against Putin’s public comments about Ukrainians are really just Russians under another name.

And I really wonder how influential he or his daughter actually were, because what he wants is not matching with Russian foreign policy and what Putin has been saying publicly.  And apparently he was publicly pissed at Putin for Putin’s refusal (or inability) to completely take Georgia back in 2008.

He wrote some stuff that got some attention and whipped up the nationalists/imperialists, but at the end of the day his usefulness appeared to be at an end.

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