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2 hours ago, EMAWesome said:

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This is such a bad faith post that it's shocking. Even from you.

 

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4 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Funny thing I noticed listening to NPR in the car yesterday.

In reporting a story in which Trump figures, the first time they mention him, it's "President Trump."  Thereafter, it's "Trump," and it may be me, but it sounds kind of pejorative.

I think or think I remember that media usually continues to say "President X" with presidents more deserving of the title (which means the prior 44).

i noticed a lot of media referring to the president as "Mr. ________."  i first recall noticing that during the clinton impeachment

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Goddamn it I need to remind myself to check what thread I'm in.  That's twice I've done this in the last week.

 

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17 minutes ago, EMAWesome said:

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Do you have eyes?  That is absolutely one of THE worst Photoshops I've ever seen.

Oh, and the picture is from Mexico you idiot.  

Maybe you should stick to math...sadly that may actually be your strong suit.

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On 4/16/2020 at 2:32 PM, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Elon Musk vs CNN's Head of Strategic Comms

 

 

 

 

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On 4/17/2020 at 3:10 PM, HenryJames said:

 

CNN dig deeper hole. All the article quotes are how grateful they hospitals and doctors are for receiving the medical equipment and all CNN is sticking with is Musk is full of crap and we were right.

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6 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

CNN dig deeper hole. All the article quotes are how grateful they hospitals and doctors are for receiving the medical equipment and all CNN is sticking with is Musk is full of crap and we were right.

Uh, no. Musk went after them when they CORRECTLY reported that the CA governor had no idea what Musk was talking about. Good reason too, as he never sent them any ventilators. 

Musk said the following:

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Perhaps you are unaware that Twitter has a search function? The hospitals *themselves* acknowledged receipt of ventilators.

So, Musk was full of crap.

I get that you hate CNN, but Musk was wrong. If I promise to send a bunch of PPE to hospitals, then send a bunch of paper towels instead, is it unfair to accuse me of not sending PPE?

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2 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Uh, no. Musk went after them when they CORRECTLY reported that the CA governor had no idea what Musk was talking about. Good reason too, as he never sent them any ventilators. 

Musk said the following:

So, Musk was full of crap.

I get that you hate CNN, but Musk was wrong. If I promise to send a bunch of PPE to hospitals, then send a bunch of paper towels instead, is it unfair to accuse me of not sending PPE?

Just because they are not invasive style ventilators does not mean they are not ventilators.  He sent them ventilators they approved beforehand and said would be very useful and your crapping on him because they aren't the most expensive ones that weren't available?

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On 4/17/2020 at 9:10 AM, EMAWesome said:

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(Might as well get some use out of my faux pas.)

Unlike Chris Cuomo when he is supposed to be quarantining himself when he had Coronavirus.

 

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Remember, according to DT, Tucker Carlson isn't inherently political

 

 

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Surprised CNN didn't find this, I mean it was on their network. I'm sure they will front and center it though...

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Surprised CNN didn't find this, I mean it was on their network. I'm sure they will front and center it though...


How do you suggest they were to find this? I don’t think you’ve thought this through...

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Better title "I Teach at Oxford But I Have No Common Sense Whatsoever."

 

I Teach at Oxford But I Don't Want to Win the Coronavirus Vaccine Race

 

In need of a question for your next Zoom pub quiz? Here’s one: “We’re getting used to seeing either Boris Johnson, Dominic Raab, Matt Hancock, Robert Jenrick, Rishi Sunak or Michael Gove wheeled out on to our screens at 5pm. But why is Jenrick the odd one out?”

 

The answer: he’s the only one that didn’t go to Oxford. (He went to Cambridge.) 

Oxford, that symbol of British excellence. Producing the finest minds in the world and, if this week’s news is anything to go by, leading the race to develop a vaccine against Coronavirus.

Surely I should be proud that the institution I have spent a decade studying and subsequently teaching at, could be the first to develop the vaccine?

Not only proud, but hopeful and excited. My 72-year old Dad is usually a highly social and active man. However, he lives on his own in a very rural village and is becoming increasingly worried that he won’t be able to return to his usual ways for years – until such a vaccine is developed.

 

So why was my initial relief at hearing Oxford and Imperial are racing away to develop the vaccine followed by worry? 

Let’s suppose that Oxford does develop the first vaccine. What happens next? 

David Heymann, an infectious disease specialist at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, who heads a panel that advises the World Health Organization (WHO) on Coronavirus, says that there could be a production shortage. Researchers have also warned that this will lead to rich countries hoarding supplies. We were too late when it came to stockpiling PPE, but we won’t be caught out again. The vaccine, developed by our finest brains, is ours. And it will be Britons who are prioritised for protection. 

If there is enough vaccine to go round, the UK will be the world’s saviour. We’ll quickly forget the devastating delay of the UK government to take action, as Boris Johnson proudly safeguarded British institutions like individual liberty, and the pub, over lives. 

We’ll forget the lessons that the pandemic has taught us so far: that the UK and the US are in fact not exceptions at the global stage. That we are not only vulnerable but can also afford to learn lessons from countries, regardless of whether we have a special relationship with them – such as South Korea. That being white, male and Oxford-educated may not be the only criteria for effective leadership (the countries whose responses have been most widely praised, Germany and New Zealand among others, are all led by women).

The developments made by researchers at Oxford have been enabled by international co-operation among the research community. Whilst China has faced lots of questions about it’s sharing of information politically, according to Laura Spinney: “The unprecedented speed of virus development so far is thanks in large part to early Chinese efforts to sequence the genetic material of Sars-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19. China shared that sequence in early January, allowing research groups around the world to grow the live virus and study how it invades human cells and makes people sick.”

Dr Claas Kirchhelle, fellow of the Research and Policy Unit at the Oxford Martin School, confirms that “there has been a radical sharing of information and a very rapid sequencing of the pathogen’s genetic code.” It is clear, then, that international co-operation saves lives. 

But do our Oxford-educated leaders think like this? Coronavirus is a global epidemic. Yet, rather than motivating the UK to take a proud role at the global stage, as leaders like Macron have urged, the UK is increasingly resorting to patriotism in response. 

This war-time rhetoric is useful in instilling a sense that this is a moment when individuals need to make sacrifices and put the country first. But this time, the enemy is not a nation. It is a microbe. So why do our collective solidarities end at the border? 

The race is on and researchers at Oxford are doing vital, life-saving work. But races have winners and losers. If my university is the first to develop the vaccine, I’m worried that it will be used as it has been in the past, to fulfil its political, patriotic function as proof of British excellence.

The story will be clear: China, once again, has unleashed a threat to civilisation. But the best brains of the UK have saved the world.

Whilst I’m hopeful that I will be able to visit my Dad soon, this must not overshadow the key lesson of coronavirus: international cooperation saves lives. The research community knows this. Let’s hope our politicians do too. 

Dr Emily Cousens researches vulnerability and gender at Oxford Brookes university and teaches on the women’s studies masters course at University of Oxford.

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I don't see a specific media thread, but this is from Reuters and their photo of the week creds. One thing that has been discussed in the media are the protests. My oldest out in Cali was saying that for the most part that is not what she has seen. What she has seen when she ventures out once a week to get groceries or exercises on campus (which is closed except for essential research) is mostly this:

An empty freeway intersection is seen two days before Earth Day, after Los Angeles’ stay-at-home order caused a drop in pollution, in Pasadena, near Los Angeles, California, April 20, 2020.  REUTERS/Lucy Nicholson

We had spoken on the COVID-19 thread about the media perhaps not being able to obtain too many photos due to the restrictions placed on hospital employees and/or entering the hospital in the first place. Here are a few from this week. The first photo is from Harlem, the second is from  Germany and shows a doctor and paramedic resuscitating a patient prior to transport.

Manager Alisha Narvaez, 36, and resident funeral director Nicole Warring, 33, of Harlem funeral home International Funeral & Cremation Services, carry a deceased person into the basement area where bodies are stored and prepared for funeral services in Manhattan, New York City, April 2, 2020. On the front lines of the coronavirus pandemic, nurses and doctors are caring for the living. But there is another front line of those caring for the dead. They fear they can also get infected and die. Some of them have sent their own children to live with relatives. And because American cities like New York were never designed to dispose of so many dead, their call of duty will last much longer. REUTERS/Andrew Kelly

 

Doctor Katharina Franz and paramedic Andreas Hankel, of the rescue helicopter "Christoph Giessen", resuscitate a patient during preparations for his transport in the "IsoArk," a special isolation chamber for highly infectious COVID-19 patients, from a clinic in Hanau, Germany, April 16, 2020. REUTERS/Kai Pfaffenbach

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5 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I don't see a specific media thread, but this is from Reuters and their photo of the week creds. One thing that has been discussed in the media are the protests. My oldest out in Cali was saying that for the most part that is not what she has seen. What she has seen when she ventures out once a week to get groceries or exercises on campus (which is closed except for essential research) is mostly this:

An empty freeway intersection is seen two days before Earth Day, after Los Angeles’ stay-at-home order caused a drop in pollution, in Pasadena, near Los Angeles, California, April 20, 2020.  REUTERS/Lucy Nicholson

We had spoken on the COVID-19 thread about the media perhaps not being able to obtain too many photos due to the restrictions placed on hospital employees and/or entering the hospital in the first place. Here are a few from this week. The first photo is from Harlem, the second is from  Germany and shows a doctor and paramedic resuscitating a patient prior to transport.

Manager Alisha Narvaez, 36, and resident funeral director Nicole Warring, 33, of Harlem funeral home International Funeral & Cremation Services, carry a deceased person into the basement area where bodies are stored and prepared for funeral services in Manhattan, New York City, April 2, 2020. On the front lines of the coronavirus pandemic, nurses and doctors are caring for the living. But there is another front line of those caring for the dead. They fear they can also get infected and die. Some of them have sent their own children to live with relatives. And because American cities like New York were never designed to dispose of so many dead, their call of duty will last much longer. REUTERS/Andrew Kelly

 

Doctor Katharina Franz and paramedic Andreas Hankel, of the rescue helicopter "Christoph Giessen", resuscitate a patient during preparations for his transport in the "IsoArk," a special isolation chamber for highly infectious COVID-19 patients, from a clinic in Hanau, Germany, April 16, 2020. REUTERS/Kai Pfaffenbach

Not that it really matters, but I question the validity of the second photo. It’s a technical thing and maybe Germany has different standards, but we’re not supposed to mask ventilate the patients. If they have any leak and your forcibly ventilating them there’s the potential for aerosolization of the virus. 

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Not really bias I guess, but direct parroting of Chinese state media is an interesting move. 

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14 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

 


Not really bias I guess, but direct parroting of Chinese state media is an interesting move. 

Well it's not like American media can go to Wuhan and conduct bias free investigations, now can they? I don't think it's parroting because they clearly identified the source as Chinese state-run media.

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1 hour ago, GRHorn said:

Not that it really matters, but I question the validity of the second photo. It’s a technical thing and maybe Germany has different standards, but we’re not supposed to mask ventilate the patients. If they have any leak and your forcibly ventilating them there’s the potential for aerosolization of the virus. 

You would definitely know more about that than I. I didn't include the caption with the pics, I'll locate it and post it although it might not be relevant to your point.

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Doctor Katharina Franz and paramedic Andreas Hankel, of the rescue helicopter "Christoph Giessen", resuscitate a patient during preparations for his transport in the "IsoArk," a special isolation chamber for highly infectious COVID-19 patients, from a clinic in Hanau, Germany, April 16, 2020. REUTERS/Kai Pfaffenbach

 

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That's over 4,000 people, correct? Can we send them to Florida? One way ticket to oh I don't know, somewhere near a golf resort that starts with the letter M?

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That's over 4,000 people, correct? Can we send them to Florida? One way ticket to oh I don't know, somewhere near a golf resort that starts with the letter M?

That’s not a golf resort. The golf resort starts with a D and has a great deconstructed hamberger.

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I've heard about this hamberder hamberger hamburger. I did not know that the golf resort was separate and not the same but as a mini golfer, I'm going to claim the "you can play golf anywhere if you have a ball and a golf club" defense.

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That’s not a golf resort. The golf resort starts with a D and has a great deconstructed hamberger.
You mom started with the D.

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4 minutes ago, elfenix said:
2 hours ago, DDD Dad said:
That’s not a golf resort. The golf resort starts with a D and has a great deconstructed hamberger.

You mom started with the D.

Then I deconstructed her all beef pattie?

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Posted (edited)

NBC Apologizes For Chuck Todd's Propaganda Edit Of Barr Interview

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President Trump demanded on Sunday that NBC fire "Meet The Press" host Chuck Todd, after the network admitted to 'inadvertently cutting short' a sound byte from Attorney General William Barr regarding the DOJ's decision to move to dismiss the Michael Flynn case.

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Todd cuts the clip off there, and says that he was "struck by the cynicism of the answer -- it's a correct answer, but he's the attorney general. He didn't make the case that he was upholding the rule of law. He was almost admitting that, yeah, this was a political job."

In fact, that's exactly what Barr said.

"I think a fair history would say it was a good decision because it upheld the rule of law," said the AG, adding "It upheld the standards of the Department of Justice, and it undid what was an injustice."

In other words, Todd literally stole Barr's line about 'upholding the rule of law' and flipped it around in a case of blatant propaganda.

Greg Price of the Daily Caller calls out the "blatantly dishonest" reporting by Todd.

 

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-furious-after-nbc-apologizes-propaganda-edit-barr-interview

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Just a heads up, you shouldn't use zerohedge as a source for anything serious. They're a home for conspiracy and pseudoscience and have a loose attitude towards facts. 

But it is rich to see Barr bellyache about bias and selective editing of people's words when he did the exact same thing in having Flynn's case dismissed. 

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