Dallas Cowboys 2018 offseason thread

[bigup2dahorns 3340]

Dr. Joseph Dolan: You know, it's a shame about Ed. 

Fletch: Oh, it was. Yeah, it was really a shame. To go so suddenly like that. 

Dr. Joseph Dolan: He was dying for years. 

Fletch: Sure, but... the end was very... very sudden. 

Dr. Joseph Dolan: He was in intensive care for eight weeks. 

Fletch: Yeah, but I mean the very end, when he actually died. That was extremely sudden.

[Amobie 58]

1 minute ago, Mileslong said:

do you mean jordan aikens at TE? if you do, he will most likely be gone by then...

Jordan Akins - UCF..   I've seen him go in the 4th all the way to the late 6th.

[Mileslong 4663]

1 minute ago, Amobie said:

Jordan Akins - UCF..   I've seen him go in the 4th all the way to the late 6th.

ok you said jordan jenkins, which is a LB for the jets last time i checked 

[Vic Mackey 46581]

@fishsports
BREAKING: #Cowboys source tells me: Assuming #JasonWitten retirement, 'No negative impact, dead money or 'penalty' whatsoever on cap. A financial bullet dodged.

[DougO 5223]

10 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

JANE SLATER ALERT

our very own superhottesthorn will be on NFLN in a moment with a witten report

Superslater falsely states that Blake Jarwin was acquired from the Fecals. He was originally signed by the Cowboys as a UDFA and promoted when the Fecals were snooping around.

 

 

[taybo20 2804]

7 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

if he's going to MNF booth this is not "sudden" and jones has known and been in on the timing.  what a great way to make the friday night primetime talking points.

Center of attention. Its not enough to have the draft in your stadium...haha

[Hagbard Celine 10498]

WE LOVE YOU JANE!

 

[taybo20 2804]

3 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

@fishsports
BREAKING: #Cowboys source tells me: Assuming #JasonWitten retirement, 'No negative impact, dead money or 'penalty' whatsoever on cap. A financial bullet dodged.

Good

[Amobie 58]

5 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

@fishsports
BREAKING: #Cowboys source tells me: Assuming #JasonWitten retirement, 'No negative impact, dead money or 'penalty' whatsoever on cap. A financial bullet dodged.

Completely coincidental i'm sure.

Witten knew he was done.  Glad he is walking away on good terms.

[In10se 175]

I dont think they even need to replace Witten's snaps. This is a good opportunity to chsnge up the stale offense and go more Switzer and Beasley spreading it out and letting the OL and Zeke work against 6 man boxes. 

Of course that's what a competent coach would do. Who knows about this coach. 

[Mileslong 4663]

[Patrick Bateman 3851]

12 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

@fishsports
BREAKING: #Cowboys source tells me: Assuming #JasonWitten retirement, 'No negative impact, dead money or 'penalty' whatsoever on cap. A financial bullet dodged.

Good news..... Looks like because they technically hadn't written a check on the restructure they can simply have it dropped.  Dodged bullet indeed....

 

[In10se 175]

I bet Witten secretly hates Jerry for running off Parcels with TOs dumb ass and ruining his chances at winning title by being a shit GM the whole time. Then yesterday making him walk out with that bitch ass Goodell was the last straw Lulz. 

[txbroadcaster 110]

20 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

if he's going to MNF booth this is not "sudden" and jones has known and been in on the timing.  what a great way to make the friday night primetime talking points.

By all account from sources this truly was out of left field from the Cowboys perspective. They had no clue he was about to retire.

[Amobie 58]

3 minutes ago, In10se said:

I dont think they even need to replace Witten's snaps. This is a good opportunity to chsnge up the stale offense and go more Switzer and Beasley spreading it out and letting the OL and Zeke work against 6 man boxes. 

Of course that's what a competent coach would do. Who knows about this coach. 

Could create an opening for a H back type of player like Jaylon Samuels from NC State. 

 

[Hagbard Celine 10498]

17 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

@fishsports
BREAKING: #Cowboys source tells me: Assuming #JasonWitten retirement, 'No negative impact, dead money or 'penalty' whatsoever on cap. A financial bullet dodged.

Just like the 23 November 63 Christchurch Star...... sourced immediately and on the fly.

[In10se 175]

2 minutes ago, txbroadcaster said:

By all account from sources this truly was out of left field from the Cowboys perspective. They had no clue he was about to retire.

Cowboys knew he was meeting with people about the tv gigs. They just never thought he'd actually do it and got caught pants down. 

No issue with Witten here. Just like I had no issue with Cowboys cutting Fez when they did. This is all business. 

[Hagbard Celine 10498]

7 minutes ago, Mileslong said:

it's good to see us using the spring to get tuned up for the production of real quality when the season actually starts.

[Vic Mackey 46581]

3 minutes ago, txbroadcaster said:

By all account from sources this truly was out of left field from the Cowboys perspective. They had no clue he was about to retire.

You think Dallas had no clue Witten was interviewing for a job in their own league? Please. They knew he had other aspirations outside of playing with them this season. They have 3 guys they got behind Witten with the idea they hope they would replace him. If they are confident with those guys, then this news is no real big deal. 

[Hagbard Celine 10498]

7 minutes ago, In10se said:

I bet Witten secretly hates Jerry for running off Parcels with TOs dumb ass and ruining his chances at winning title by being a shit GM the whole time. Then yesterday making him walk out with that bitch ass Goodell was the last straw Lulz. 

so even though the prep for the walk-out likely started weeks or months ago, he just cut the MFN deal in  18 hours?

[Amobie 58]

Just now, Hagbard Celine said:

so even though the prep for the walk-out likely started weeks or months ago, he just cut the MFN deal in  18 hours?

Yeah because Witten secretly hates Jerry... 

[Patrick Bateman 3851]

5 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

so even though the prep for the walk-out likely started weeks or months ago, he just cut the MFN deal in  18 hours?

Rumor (stress rumor) is they came to him and offered him the job a couple of months ago..... He said no and was going to play another season, hence the agreed upon restructure.  Over the the last few days, they came back to him and sweetened the deal and after evaluating, Witten decided to retire.  Again, it's a rumor but it would make some sense considering all the facts out for public consumption.

Edited April 27, 2018 by Patrick Bateman

[EvilCaseMcCoy 684]

Is it Rico time yet?

[txbroadcaster 110]

5 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

You think Dallas had no clue Witten was interviewing for a job in their own league? Please. They knew he had other aspirations outside of playing with them this season. They have 3 guys they got behind Witten with the idea they hope they would replace him. If they are confident with those guys, then this news is no real big deal. 

It was already out a couple of months ago the MNF talked to Witten..at the time he said no...he changed his mind in last 48 hours

[Hagbard Celine 10498]

5 minutes ago, In10se said:

Cowboys knew he was meeting with people about the tv gigs. They just never thought he'd actually do it and got caught pants down. 

No issue with Witten here. Just like I had no issue with Cowboys cutting Fez when they did. This is all business. 

If that's true then Stephen Jones is dipshit aggylogic fucktard.  And I rate Stephen Jones a little higher than that.  He went to pig.  He's not aggy.  Only aggy would "get caught with their pants down" when a 15-year player who has played longer than 99999 of 100000 players at his position "actually does it".

[Hagbard Celine 10498]

33 minutes ago, bigup2dahorns said:

Dr. Joseph Dolan: You know, it's a shame about Ed. 

Fletch: Oh, it was. Yeah, it was really a shame. To go so suddenly like that. 

Dr. Joseph Dolan: He was dying for years. 

Fletch: Sure, but... the end was very... very sudden. 

Dr. Joseph Dolan: He was in intensive care for eight weeks. 

Fletch: Yeah, but I mean the very end, when he actually died. That was extremely sudden.

Oh for god-dahh-dahh! Who is it, Mister Sinilindin?!

[Viper 11918]

3 minutes ago, EvilCaseMcCoy said:

Is it Rico time yet?

way past time

[Amobie 58]

1 minute ago, txbroadcaster said:

It was already out a couple of months ago the MNF talked to Witten..at the time he said no...he changed his mind in last 48 hours

Or he lied to the press because he intended on retiring on 15th year anniversary of him being drafted. 

[Hagbard Celine 10498]

14 minutes ago, txbroadcaster said:

By all account from sources this truly was out of left field from the Cowboys perspective. They had no clue he was about to retire.

We know you are connected but.... really.....  it's very hard to swallow

[In10se 175]

8 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

so even though the prep for the walk-out likely started weeks or months ago, he just cut the MFN deal in  18 hours?

I guess the "Lulz" wasnt enough to fully tip off the joke nature of the post at jerry and goodell's expense. 

[Hagbard Celine 10498]

Just now, In10se said:

I guess the "Lulz" wasnt enough to fully tip off the joke nature of the post at jerry and goodell's expense. 

sorry, rep paid

[Gene Parmesan 3951]

2 minutes ago, Amobie said:

Or he lied to the press because he intended on retiring on 15th year anniversary of him being drafted. 

[fellside 1070]

Has Witten ever said anything remotely interesting?  He talks exclusively in old school football guy cliches.  Why would anyone throw money at him.

[Hagbard Celine 10498]

Just now, fellside said:

Has Witten ever said anything remotely interesting?  He talks exclusively in old school football guy cliches.  Why would anyone throw money at him.

Romo.

[fellside 1070]

Just now, Hagbard Celine said:

Romo.

Romo clearly had personality and humor.  Even if you just compare their commercials, you can see that.

[Gene Parmesan 3951]

Did you guys know Witten and Romos dads were college roomates?

Edited April 27, 2018 by Gene Parmesan

[In10se 175]

8 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

If that's true then Stephen Jones is dipshit aggylogic fucktard.  And I rate Stephen Jones a little higher than that.  He went to pig.  He's not aggy.  Only aggy would "get caught with their pants down" when a 15-year player who has played longer than 99999 of 100000 players at his position "actually does it".

Can't think of any other reason that makes sense unless they either have full confidence in what they have on board to replace him or they planned to replace him in the draft and word getting out today may have kind of busted that. I believe them that they weren't expecting him to retire and were a bit blindsided today though. 

Who knows they might have planned for it and we just don't know. 

[Viper 11918]

Yeah whoever made the decision to hire Witten either knows a lot more about broadcasting than we do, or is a complete dumbass. 

[txbroadcaster 110]

5 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

We know you are connected but.... really.....  it's very hard to swallow

It really is not...He said no at first intending on playing at least one more year....Something changed in the last 48 hours..MNF made a better offer..or Witten just deciding he did not want to go thru the grind. Since offseason program started Witten had been at every Captain's Workout and every other workout. He does not do that if he knows at the time that he is not playing the season

[Patrick Bateman 3851]

7 minutes ago, Amobie said:

Or he lied to the press because he intended on retiring on 15th year anniversary of him being drafted. 

LOL!  

 

[Patrick Bateman 3851]

1 minute ago, longhornmatt said:

I should probably do actual research to inform myself, but that wouldn’t be the surly way, so instead I’ll just ask:  does Dallas have cap room for free agents now that Witten is off the books without dead money?  Before the apparently now void restructuring, wasn’t he set to make an obscene salary this year?

It's above..... just look up thread.

Moving on....

 

 

[In10se 175]

1 minute ago, longhornmatt said:

I should probably do actual research to inform myself, but that wouldn’t be the surly way, so instead I’ll just ask:  does Dallas have cap room for free agents now that Witten is off the books without dead money?  Before the apparently now void restructuring, wasn’t he set to make an obscene salary this year?

David Moore said Witten's cap hit was about 8 million for 2018 and this will free up about 2.7 million or so. If they wanted to sign a FA to replace him it would be an old guy on a cheap deal who no one else wants. Probably not better than what they have on roster. 

[C-Man 26536]

1 hour ago, mdmost said:

People said the exact same thing about Aikman when he played in Dallas. 

Aikman didn't have years of doing a weekly radio segment either, though. I was surprised Romo was as good as he was.

I must be in the minority but I don't think Moose is all that good either. He is a little hamstrung with the piss-poor, second-tier PBP talent he's forced to work with though.

[Hagbard Celine 10498]

Moose is great when he's paired with an A-player.

[Bill Brasky 1414]

1 hour ago, Vic Mackey said:

Damn I was hoping we left your dumb ass behind. You still sound like the gaping vagina you always are. Crying about other people's opinions as always. Fuck off, loser.

I have been vocal about replacing Witten for years. Getting rid of Dez. They did both in a few weeks. Good for this offense.

But I'll let the others have a pity party. 

You calling someone a loser for disagreeing with your takes is pretty fucking rich.  You calling someone a loser for anything at all is comedy gold.  

[Hagbard Celine 10498]

7 minutes ago, txbroadcaster said:

It really is not...He said no at first intending on playing at least one more year....Something changed in the last 48 hours..MNF made a better offer..or Witten just deciding he did not want to go thru the grind. Since offseason program started Witten had been at every Captain's Workout and every other workout. He does not do that if he knows at the time that he is not playing the season

welp, i'll say the workout thing is not proof of blindsiding.... you never quit your current job until the next one has ink on paper.  and no ink on paper is not proof of unplanned ignorance by the joneses.

occam's razor.  simplest explanation holds.  everyone concerned knew, but it wasn't done until it was done.

[Beau Vine 53625]

29 minutes ago, In10se said:

No issue with Witten here. Just like I had no issue with Cowboys cutting Fez when they did. This is all business. 

I don't care if Witten retired an hour before the regular season opener.  He is one of the best to ever play for this franchise, one of the best TEs ever, and a rock-solid human being.  

That dude has earned "no issue" regardless of how he decides to go out.

[mulletpelini 5206]

Vic keeps it real, no doubt about it.

[Newy25 7590]

3 minutes ago, mulletpelini said:

Vic keeps it real, no doubt about it.

Just a cursory look at his FB friends and the women he schleps with tells you all you need to know about his judgement. 

[mdmost 42167]

16 minutes ago, mulletpelini said:

Vic keeps it real, no doubt about it.

Asshole recognizes asshole

Edited April 27, 2018 by mdmost