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Please tell me there is a reason for this other than "Sanders doesn't want to(is too good for that)" or "Sanders doesn't understand the playbook" stuff.

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2 hours ago, Drew said:

Please tell me there is a reason for this other than "Sanders doesn't want to(is too good for that)" or "Sanders doesn't understand the playbook" stuff.

Nobody beats out Zappe, except most people. It's Zappening.

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So it seems pretty clear Sanders’ success came as a result of Hunter and his son, rather than some out-of-the-box coaching genius. Their most probable record at this point is 4-8. 

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CU just won't ever run the ball and stick to it. Seaton would be an interesting transfer prospect. I imagine he'll have a lofty share of offers. 

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5 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

As bad as our RT has been I would take a flyer on the guy

He's a RS freshman who has started 2 games. Give the kid a chance to develop. 

Not being willing to develop players is part of why Deion's team looks so shitty in year 3. 

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5 hours ago, Hermanator said:

He's a RS freshman who has started 2 games. Give the kid a chance to develop. 

Not being willing to develop players is part of why Deion's team looks so shitty in year 3. 

Baker is just 1 of 3 bad players on our OL now. 

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28 minutes ago, Drew said:

He would have been the ideal backup for them too...step in without much difference at all on offense.

There's a big difference there.

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3 hours ago, txhorns said:

There's a big difference there.

I meant in the "style" of offense.  Not like going from Lamar to Cooper Rush.

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On 9/17/2025 at 3:13 PM, Drew said:

I meant in the "style" of offense.  Not like going from Lamar to Cooper Rush.

sanders isn't really a running QB like Jackson.

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On 9/16/2025 at 7:36 PM, demos said:


What a dumbass. That would’ve been a good situation to be in: sit behind Jackson, learn, and develop.

And maybe go to SB.

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18 hours ago, The Dog said:

 

As he should be. We all saw the preseason and he STILL has the same problem he had in College. No feel for the pocket or pass rush, and backing out of protection and into sacks.

The Browns are actually SAVING him by not rushing him out there if he's smart enough.

Gabriel isn't the talent Sanders is...won't be as good in the long run. But he won't get himself sacked due to himself. he'll stay on script most likely.

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19 minutes ago, Drew said:

As he should be. We all saw the preseason and he STILL has the same problem he had in College. No feel for the pocket or pass rush, and backing out of protection and into sacks.

The Browns are actually SAVING him by not rushing him out there if he's smart enough.

Gabriel isn't the talent Sanders is...won't be as good in the long run. But he won't get himself sacked due to himself. he'll stay on script most likely.

so far, this season has played out the way Mary Cabot predicted. Flacco to start then get benched with Gabriel starting then at some point Sheduer (regardless of how Gabriel plays). They need to see what they have heading into next year's draft. 

The thing is the Browns have a really good defense - the blowouts are due to Flacco's turnovers and special teams gaffes. Having any competence at QB gives them a chance to win games.

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I have seen nothing to tell me Sanders is more talented than Gabriel. 

Both he and Quinn share the same complete lack for any feel in the pocket. That alone will disqualify them from being legitimate NFL QBs. It's very hard to develop that at the NFL level if you never developed it long before. QB just naturally develop it over time. Even when Arch was at his worst with the mental yips against UTEP his pocket awareness and ability to navigate away from pressure was still there. That's ingrained by this point, and I don't believe Sanders will ever have it. 

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What a fucking child.

You can tell he was raised very, very wrong when he handles adversity like this. Sorry, not sorry kid, but we all have a serious case of schadenfreude.

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10 minutes ago, Derka said:

also, what is this hair:

 

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The interview is a really bad look and seems to suggest a lack of maturity. Like I wrote here last week, people so often do what is not in their own best interests, 'cause so many people are, well, not smart. 

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2 hours ago, TreatyOak said:

The interview is a really bad look and seems to suggest a lack of maturity. Like I wrote here last week, people so often do what is not in their own best interests, 'cause so many people are, well, not smart. 

What a clown.

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19 hours ago, Hermanator said:

I have seen nothing to tell me Sanders is more talented than Gabriel. 

Both he and Quinn share the same complete lack for any feel in the pocket. That alone will disqualify them from being legitimate NFL QBs. It's very hard to develop that at the NFL level if you never developed it long before. QB just naturally develop it over time. Even when Arch was at his worst with the mental yips against UTEP his pocket awareness and ability to navigate away from pressure was still there. That's ingrained by this point, and I don't believe Sanders will ever have it. 

I think arm talent, the physical tools ARE better than Gilbert...but that doesn't mean he'll succeed, or even be better as an NFL QB than Gilbert for the same reasons you said. We agree there.

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Deion Sanders set for surgery today

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By John Brice      Oct 7, 2025 

Three days after revealing new health complications, Colorado coach Deion Sanders now is sharing he faces a new surgical procedure. 

Following his team's loss late Saturday night at TCU, Coach Prime revealed that he believed blood clots had returned in his leg and that he was scheduled to see his medical team Monday.

Today, Sanders revealed the results of that visit: the need for a surgical procedure that Sanders said he hopes he can return from in time for Wednesday's Colorado Buffaloes practice ahead of Saturday's home tilt against one-loss Iowa State.

The procedure is called aspiration thrombectomy of the left popliteal and tibial arteries.

Sanders leaned on his faith as he told reporters during his regularly scheduled press conference about the impending procedure:

"Today, I'm having a procedure," Sanders said. "Prayerfully, I'll be right back tomorrow (Wednesday). 

"It is what it is; we found what we found. It has nothing to do with me working at the level I'm trying to compete at. It's hereditary. It is what it is. I trust God with all my heart, all my soul and all my mind."

Per online medical resources, the procedure is described in the following:

"Aspiration thrombectomy of the left popliteal artery and tibial arteries is a procedure that removes a blood clot (thrombus) from these arteries in the leg using suction through a catheter, thereby restoring blood flow and preventing acute limb ischemia. A catheter is advanced into the artery, and negative pressure applied through a syringe or a mechanical device draws the thrombus into the catheter for removal. This technique is often used as an emergency treatment for clots that threaten limb viability. 

This specific procedure per medical journals is viewed as much less invasive as older, traditional methods of surgical treatments.

Medical journals reveal that the aspiration thrombectomy utilizes a catheter to be inserted into the targeted artery, and then a syringe is attached to the catheter and used to draw out the clot.

It has been just four years since per Sanders himself he nearly died from blood clots that arose as a complication from a foot surgery that Sanders had performed on his left foot at a Jackson, Mississippi, hospital when Sanders was head coach at Jackson State, his first collegiate head coaching post.

That procedure saw Sanders have two toes amputated from lingering damage that he endured during his profession career that included a Pro Football Hall of Fame output in football as well as being a starting outfielder in Major League Baseball.

"I think I got more blood clots, inside the bag; I think I got more blood clots," Sanders told reporters Saturday night. "It don't make sense. I am hurting like crazy. ... So, that's what's going on. I am not getting blood to my leg, so that's why my leg's throbbing."

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Browns' Stefanski to let week play out before deciding on QB2

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Cleveland Browns coach Kevin Stefanski on Wednesday was noncommittal on whether rookie Shedeur Sanders -- or practice squad quarterback Bailey Zappe -- would be the team's backup quarterback in the aftermath of trading Joe Flacco to the Cincinnati Bengals.

Cleveland traded Flacco and a 2026 sixth-round pick to Cincinnati on Tuesday in exchange for a 2026 fifth-round pick, leaving Sanders and fellow rookie Dillon Gabriel as the only quarterbacks on the active roster. However, Stefanski said he would "let the week play out [and] make a decision later" when asked about the QB2 role.

 

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6 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Deion Sanders set for surgery today

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By John Brice      Oct 7, 2025 

Three days after revealing new health complications, Colorado coach Deion Sanders now is sharing he faces a new surgical procedure. 

Following his team's loss late Saturday night at TCU, Coach Prime revealed that he believed blood clots had returned in his leg and that he was scheduled to see his medical team Monday.

Today, Sanders revealed the results of that visit: the need for a surgical procedure that Sanders said he hopes he can return from in time for Wednesday's Colorado Buffaloes practice ahead of Saturday's home tilt against one-loss Iowa State.

The procedure is called aspiration thrombectomy of the left popliteal and tibial arteries.

Sanders leaned on his faith as he told reporters during his regularly scheduled press conference about the impending procedure:

"Today, I'm having a procedure," Sanders said. "Prayerfully, I'll be right back tomorrow (Wednesday). 

"It is what it is; we found what we found. It has nothing to do with me working at the level I'm trying to compete at. It's hereditary. It is what it is. I trust God with all my heart, all my soul and all my mind."

Per online medical resources, the procedure is described in the following:

"Aspiration thrombectomy of the left popliteal artery and tibial arteries is a procedure that removes a blood clot (thrombus) from these arteries in the leg using suction through a catheter, thereby restoring blood flow and preventing acute limb ischemia. A catheter is advanced into the artery, and negative pressure applied through a syringe or a mechanical device draws the thrombus into the catheter for removal. This technique is often used as an emergency treatment for clots that threaten limb viability. 

This specific procedure per medical journals is viewed as much less invasive as older, traditional methods of surgical treatments.

Medical journals reveal that the aspiration thrombectomy utilizes a catheter to be inserted into the targeted artery, and then a syringe is attached to the catheter and used to draw out the clot.

It has been just four years since per Sanders himself he nearly died from blood clots that arose as a complication from a foot surgery that Sanders had performed on his left foot at a Jackson, Mississippi, hospital when Sanders was head coach at Jackson State, his first collegiate head coaching post.

That procedure saw Sanders have two toes amputated from lingering damage that he endured during his profession career that included a Pro Football Hall of Fame output in football as well as being a starting outfielder in Major League Baseball.

"I think I got more blood clots, inside the bag; I think I got more blood clots," Sanders told reporters Saturday night. "It don't make sense. I am hurting like crazy. ... So, that's what's going on. I am not getting blood to my leg, so that's why my leg's throbbing."

Why is his health such a disaster? Did he just never take care of himself - or some of it is bad genes? He's never looked terrible or been overweight or anything. 

Oh - so this is some continued issue from the foot surgery that he elected to have at some quack hospital in Jackson, Mississippi. No idea why he didn't have that done somewhere better with the money he has. 

I mean it's to the point where it's probably making it difficult to coach a P4 team. 

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Browns' Stefanski to let week play out before deciding on QB2
 

Cleveland Browns coach Kevin Stefanski on Wednesday was noncommittal on whether rookie Shedeur Sanders -- or practice squad quarterback Bailey Zappe -- would be the team's backup quarterback in the aftermath of trading Joe Flacco to the Cincinnati Bengals.

Cleveland traded Flacco and a 2026 sixth-round pick to Cincinnati on Tuesday in exchange for a 2026 fifth-round pick, leaving Sanders and fellow rookie Dillon Gabriel as the only quarterbacks on the active roster. However, Stefanski said he would "let the week play out [and] make a decision later" when asked about the QB2 role.

 

One does simply beat out Bailey Zappe in the depth chart
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The Browns are adrenaline junkies who thrive on car crashes. They have been driving without brakes and seat belts for generations. From Jeff Garcia’s Playboy playmate girlfriend’s bar fight to the Johnny Manziel disaster, from Odell Beckham Jr. begging opponents during games to come rescue him from Cleveland to the Deshaun Watson debacle, the Browns have more tire fires than Goodyear. Now it’s Sanders and all the unwanted attention on their third-string quarterback. 

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Baker Mayfield ranks fourth in the NFL in passing yards. He’s third in passing touchdowns and he’s tied for sixth in Expected Points Added per Dropback, according to TruMedia. He is thriving in late-game situations, which was once an enormous knock against him, and he has enjoyed a complete career renaissance since leaving Cleveland and landing in Tampa Bay. He has the Buccaneers atop the NFC South and is now widely considered one of the early favorites for the league’s Most Valuable Player award. 

I hesitate to mention Mayfield and Cleveland because of the vitriolic emotion it brings out of Browns fans. There is a lot of revisionist history tied to the Mayfield saga these days in Northeast Ohio. 

Nevertheless, it’s worth mentioning Mayfield within the context of the current Browns quarterback room because there are only two reasons I can find for why Shedeur Sanders is still on this team.

Either the owner is requiring it or there is a fear held by someone in the building that Sanders will develop elsewhere and turn into this franchise’s next Mayfield horror story. There really is no other explanation at this point, and neither is a strong enough reason to keep him around. 

Browns owner Jimmy Haslam has proved time and again that he cannot trust himself to make football decisions, and the odds of Sanders developing into that rare fifth-round quarterback in NFL history to have any career of substance (Mark Brunell? Steve Grogan?) are slim. It’s time for the Browns and Sanders to part ways. The sooner the better, and certainly before next month’s trade deadline. 

I’m tired of writing about and mentioning Sanders, a player who hasn’t taken a meaningful snap since Aug. 23. I thought it was outrageous we’re into October and still wasting so much time discussing the third-string quarterback of any NFL team. But now that the Browns have traded Joe Flacco, their former starter and team captain, another Sanders conversation is at least warranted this time because he should theoretically move up and become the backup behind rookie Dillon Gabriel. 

The Flacco trade took me by surprise because I thought they saw value in him being there as a veteran presence. So it wasn’t all that surprising when Browns coach Kevin Stefanski went out of his way Wednesday to say without saying that Bailey Zappe will likely be promoted from the Browns’ practice squad to be the backup quarterback beginning this week at the Pittsburgh Steelers. 

Since they already had three quarterbacks on the active roster, the only reason to even carry Zappe on the practice squad was to move him ahead of Sanders in the event there was an opening at backup quarterback. Now there is. 

“I always have to be mindful of our players, and our players’ development, and I want to make sure that I’m always doing what’s best for our players and, of course, our team,” Stefanski said when asked if Sanders will be the backup. “But with young players … you have to think long and hard about that, because these are young players that you’re so invested in their development. So I’ll let the week play out and make a decision later on.”

That hardly screams anything close to Sanders becoming the backup. 

The Browns are adrenaline junkies who thrive on car crashes. They have been driving without brakes and seat belts for generations. From Jeff Garcia’s Playboy playmate girlfriend’s bar fight to the Johnny Manziel disaster, from Odell Beckham Jr. begging opponents during games to come rescue him from Cleveland to the Deshaun Watson debacle, the Browns have more tire fires than Goodyear. Now it’s Sanders and all the unwanted attention on their third-string quarterback. 

At what point is it enough? At what point will the Browns grow up enough to leave the kids’ table and sit with the other adults? 

The Browns deserve no benefit of the doubt when it comes to evaluating quarterbacks. Gabriel represents the 41st starter they’ve had since 1999, a grotesque figure that is worthy of constant heckling. That number is likely to grow by at least one more next year since they have two picks in the first round.

But this isn’t just one inept team saying Sanders isn’t ready. It’s easy to find people around the league, and within the Browns, who will tell you Sanders isn’t a good NFL quarterback right now. What you’ll struggle to find is a team that believes he is ready to help them win games right now. If one existed, Sanders wouldn’t have fallen to the fifth round.

Sanders’ legion of fans would rather believe it’s the incompetent team he is with and not the idea that he just might not be a very good NFL quarterback. Given Cleveland’s history, the skepticism is warranted. 

But if Bailey Zappe — Bailey Zappe! — is more trustworthy to a team that has spent 25 years searching for competent quarterback play, then what are we really doing here? 

Cut Sanders, just as the Philadelphia Eagles did with sixth-round quarterback Kyle McCord and countless other teams do every year with countless other late-round rookie quarterbacks, and end this silly madness. McCord returned to Philadelphia on the practice squad. The Browns are protecting Sanders on their 53-man roster so another team can’t pluck him off their practice squad, yet they’re about to promote Zappe from the practice squad ahead of him. When else has that ever happened?

Stefanski is constantly peppered with questions about the third-string quarterback. Gabriel, whom the Browns spent a third-round pick on and whom they actually like, is constantly badgered with questions about his backup. 

Stop forcing Gabriel into this untenable position where every word out of his mouth is judged as to whether it’s a shot at Shedeur. Stop forcing the head coach to field questions about the third-string quarterback every week. Just stop. 

If the Browns could get fifth-round picks for both Kenny Pickett and Flacco, they ought to be able to recoup the fifth they spent on Sanders last spring. I had one member of the organization tell me a few weeks ago that they should’ve traded him for a draft pick immediately after his preseason showing against the Carolina Panthers. We already know the Ravens and Eagles were ready to take him in the fifth round. Maybe the Ravens will still want him. Is it a risk trading him within the division? Of course. But at this point, it feels like a risk keeping him in the building. 

Cut him. Trade him. Whatever. Let him become someone else’s daily topic of conversation. At 1-4, the Browns have enough problems. Clearly, he isn’t viewed as one of the solutions.

 

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On 10/8/2025 at 6:39 AM, LTtxfan said:

It has been just four years since per Sanders himself he nearly died from blood clots that arose as a complication from a foot surgery that Sanders had performed on his left foot at a Jackson, Mississippi, hospital when Sanders was head coach at Jackson State, his first collegiate head coaching post.

Whoa - he tried to do the surgery himself? Crazy!

That whole sentence is crying out for the love an editor.

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