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50 minutes ago, MrBig said:

Most of the guys we put in the NFL were not even Sark’s guys. Kelvin Banks only came here because Cristobal left for Miami. And Flood has been smelling his own farts because of this 1st round pick this whole time, oblivious to the fact his OL room stinks like shit. 

It's true on both sides of the ball. Nearly all of the top end LOS talent that has powered Texas's sucess and got drafted the past couple years were Herman staff recruits.

Jones, Majors, Connor, Ojomo, Coburn, Sorrell, Collins, Broughton, Sweat, and Murphy. All brought in by Herman.

This is the first year we're really seeing a 100% Sark-made OL/DL.

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9 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Maybe yesterday will get this team focused for Saturday. I bought fucking tickets 4 weeks ago so I’m getting there early, eating a shit ton of food and enjoying the fair and this game coming up. It’s my favorite time of the year and I think we beat ousucks Saturday. 

 

6 minutes ago, Slater said:

Sark had 2 weeks to prepare and they came out and played like shit. I get that Florida is tough place to play, but still, they had many chances to win that game. Guess this means Billy boy gets another year. Sorry Gator fans. 

I think this is actually the most frustrating part about yesterday. We knew the OL play and QB play were bad and going to cost us games even if it hadn't materaialized yesterday. But we were pretty clearly unprepared to match the intensity of a Florida team that played extremely hard, which was very predictable given how their season has gone and all of the talk surrounding the program. We looked like we expected them to shit down their own leg at the sight of us like we did aginast Georgia.

Sark has obviously earned grace but that is likely never getting fixed.

Posted
2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

I have this theory that Sark sees good execution in practice and from that assumes that players can execute the schemes and play calls.

But once reality shows that they aren't capable, because of talent, or mentality or whatever, Sark refuses to change up the calls.  Like he assumes the execution failure is more an aberration than who the players are and what are their limitations in a game scenario, despite evidence to the contrary.

 

Yeah, this is a good theory. I think it’s something he can grow out of since for the most part he’s been receptive to criticisms. The Oline needs to be taken care of though. Whatever he and Flood are seeing in practice needs to be fixed. The decision he makes with the Oline going forward could determine his trajectory as the head coach of Texas. 

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For me the biggest indictment of Sark right now is to not even try and experiment after watching our offensive line be as awful as they have been. 

The Sam game should have seen plenty of experimentation on the line.  Maybe move out best blocking te to right tackle and spin baker to left guard?  Maybe try anyome at left guard with a pulse? 

Just run out a a few preferred options and see if something stuck. 

His qb crisis and nonstop injuries at rb though may have diverted his attentiom away from the real problems 

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I was meh on the Sark hire, but I became sold on the idea that he was top notch program builder. Yeah, about that.  We seem to be a flip house with lots of foundational issues, particularly on offense.  

This year seems like a write-off.  The good news is lines and skill positions can be rebuilt via the portal much more quickly than the old days.  I'm just not sure I trust this crew to do it.  

Posted
51 minutes ago, MrBig said:

 

Hey, I'm glad Flood can train goliaths to move stationary targets. But, why isn't the current OL "dipping their hips" and striking low to high?

 

19 minutes ago, deech said:

The Sam game should have seen plenty of experimentation on the line.  Maybe move out best blocking te to right tackle and spin baker to left guard?  Maybe try anyome at left guard with a pulse? 

IMO, Nick Townsend is our best blocking TE, but he's only listed at 6'3", 241 lbs. That ain't nearly big enough.

But, I agree with trying multiple combinations of OL to see which guys work best together.

Posted
32 minutes ago, Levi said:

Yeah, this is a good theory. I think it’s something he can grow out of since for the most part he’s been receptive to criticisms. The Oline needs to be taken care of though. Whatever he and Flood are seeing in practice needs to be fixed. The decision he makes with the Oline going forward could determine his trajectory as the head coach of Texas. 

This is concerning.  You would think with the analysts Sark has, there would be some real heart-to-heart self-scouting.  

Maybe try to get Paul Chryst back or someone from Chryst's coaching tree on staff?

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Just now, bschoolprof said:

I was meh on the Sark hire, but I became sold on the idea that he was top notch program builder. Yeah, about that.  We seem to be a flip house with lots of foundational issues, particularly on offense.  

This year seems like a write-off.  The good news is lines and skill positions can be rebuilt via the portal much more quickly than the old days.  I'm just not sure I trust this crew to do it.  

We hired Sark when NIL became legal. Maybe it was the money and not necessarily Sark who made things better. We were just so happy to be done with Herman that we overlooked a lot of Sark’s shortcomings. 

You have to remember we were coming off of Herman who was a fucking tyrant who had everyone in the program walking on eggshells and burning players’ food when they would underperform in practice. 

All of Sark’s NFL guys were Herman’s dudes. Now we are in Year 5 with nothing but Sark recruits and look at the team. Sark has done nothing but hire his coaching buddies who have been fired from other programs.

OL Flood - suspended and fired as Rutgers HC

ST Banks - part of Sumlin’s fired aggy staff

RB Scott - part of Neal Brown’s fired WVU staff 

Asst Neal Brown - fired as WVU HC 

Asst Kerry Joseph - Eberflus’ QB coach in Chicago (Eberflus was fired)

Co-DC Nansen - not fired but was alleged to be Sark’s drinking buddy at UW & USC, was on staff when Sark was fired at USC

QB Milwee - part of fired HC Terry Bowden’s staff at Akron

Mike Bimonte - played backup QB for Flood during his stint at Rutgers HC where Flood was fired

 

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2 hours ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Mac looks like a viable nfl qb now.   In college he threw to four dies round receivers while handing the ball off to a first round running back.  Oh and Saban.  

You can’t really look at Sark at Bama….that wasn’t his team or his culture. He had Nick screaming down his throat what to do when he didn’t know. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, MrBig said:

We hired Sark when NIL became legal. Maybe it was the money and not necessarily Sark who made things better. We were just so happy to be done with Herman that we overlooked a lot of Sark’s shortcomings. 

You have to remember we were coming off of Herman who was a fucking tyrant who had everyone in the program walking on eggshells and burning players’ food when they would underperform in practice. 

All of Sark’s NFL guys were Herman’s dudes. Now we are in Year 5 with nothing but Sark recruits and look at the team. Sark has done nothing but hire his coaching buddies who have been fired from other programs.

OL Flood - suspended and fired as Rutgers HC

ST Banks - part of Sumlin’s fired aggy staff

RB Scott - part of Neal Brown’s fired WVU staff 

Asst Neal Brown - fired as WVU HC 

Asst Kerry Joseph - Eberflus’ QB coach in Chicago (Eberflus was fired)

Co-DC Nansen - not fired but was alleged to be Sark’s drinking buddy at UW & USC, was on staff when Sark was fired at USC

QB Milwee - part of fired HC Terry Bowden’s staff at Akron

Mike Bimonte - played backup QB for Flood during his stint at Rutgers HC where Flood was fired

 

 

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We have an Athletic Director who could unilaterally decide a few new faces should be at practice this week to help coach up the roster.  Everyone reports to someone.  There are unemployed but experienced OL coaches sitting at home right now.  Hypothetically, of course.

Posted
Just now, Gaius Julius Bevo said:

This is concerning.  You would think with the analysts Sark has, there would be some real heart-to-heart self-scouting.  

Maybe try to get Paul Chryst back or someone from Chryst's coaching tree on staff?

I’m not sure if anything will be done during the season regarding the Oline. Maybe Flood has too much agency with the Oline and Sark needs to take the that away from him. The whole unit needs to be reconstructed after the season.

Posted
19 minutes ago, Levi said:

Maybe Flood has too much agency with the Oline

This is likely consistent with Sark's recovery mindset.  He's not going to try to control his subordinates.  He's going to tell them what should be done, likely on a consensus basis, and free them to do their jobs and expect them to do their jobs.

The point about Bama above is likely on point.  Sark was reliant upon good recruiting, evals, and the other coaches doing their jobs.  He does his and results follow.  But the presence of Saban made those assumptions and reliances valid and now they may not be so valid.

 

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4 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

This is likely consistent with Sark's recovery mindset.  He's not going to try to control his subordinates.  He's going to tell them what should be done, likely on a consensus basis, and free them to do their jobs and expect them to do their jobs.

The point about Bama above is likely on point.  Sark was reliant upon good recruiting, evals, and the other coaches doing their jobs.  He does his and results follow.  But the presence of Saban made those assumptions and reliances valid and now they may not be so valid.

 

I think what Saban brought to his assistants the most was execution on game days. Simply put, his presence on the side line was felt top to bottom. Sark has course corrected multiple times on different aspects of the program throughout his time here. But Sark doesn’t have that feel on game days like Saban does. Most college coaches don’t. The correction usually comes after the fact and is really hammered in the offseason. Sark intervened with PK after the first year and we really haven’t looked back since. The offense on the other hand is his baby. The reflection and plan to action is different. I truly believe he’s a great great play designer and play caller but there is an obvious disconnect on game days that I fear can only be fixed if he approaches it the way he did with the defense. 

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Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, Levi said:

I think what Saban brought to his assistants the most was execution on game days. Simply put, his presence on the side line was felt top to bottom. Sark has course corrected multiple times on different aspects of the program throughout his time here. But Sark doesn’t have that feel on game days like Saban does. Most college coaches don’t. The correction usually comes after the fact and is really hammered in the offseason. Sark intervened with PK after the first year and we really haven’t looked back since. The offense on the other hand is his baby. The reflection and plan to action is different. I truly believe he’s a great great play designer and play caller but there is an obvious disconnect on game days that I fear can only be fixed if he approaches it the way he did with the defense. 

Injecting more recovery-speak/thought, which may be completely gratuitous.  Trying to control people, places, and things is something those in recovery learn is impossible and only leads to frustration.  The flip side of that is that sometimes people in recovery take too much responsibility for things that aren't theirs.  Both aspects are hard to manage and get right, so the mantra "progress not perfection."

I suspect his intervention with PK followed the pattern I described above.  

He may not have come to clarity on the offensive struggles, but hopefully he can.  And maybe he's had an intervention with Flood but can now see it just isn't working out.

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1 hour ago, MrBig said:

We hired Sark when NIL became legal. Maybe it was the money and not necessarily Sark who made things better. We were just so happy to be done with Herman that we overlooked a lot of Sark’s shortcomings. 

You have to remember we were coming off of Herman who was a fucking tyrant who had everyone in the program walking on eggshells and burning players’ food when they would underperform in practice. 

All of Sark’s NFL guys were Herman’s dudes. Now we are in Year 5 with nothing but Sark recruits and look at the team. Sark has done nothing but hire his coaching buddies who have been fired from other programs.

OL Flood - suspended and fired as Rutgers HC

ST Banks - part of Sumlin’s fired aggy staff

RB Scott - part of Neal Brown’s fired WVU staff 

Asst Neal Brown - fired as WVU HC 

Asst Kerry Joseph - Eberflus’ QB coach in Chicago (Eberflus was fired)

Co-DC Nansen - not fired but was alleged to be Sark’s drinking buddy at UW & USC, was on staff when Sark was fired at USC

QB Milwee - part of fired HC Terry Bowden’s staff at Akron

Mike Bimonte - played backup QB for Flood during his stint at Rutgers HC where Flood was fired

 

Whaddaya mean?? Tom Herman used to give the players lots of kisses.

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To be fair to sark most of his assistants that left, left for promotions. Lots of the guys he hired as assistants were from the staff at bama(banks, flood, milwee). He hired a homerun in PK even if we didn’t think it was initially. He hired good assistants. He just can’t do the head coach job to ensure quality control across the board with these assistants since he’s fapping to his offensive play design where he’s scheming open 10 wr for touchdowns. That’s a huge problem.
The other big problem in the last 3 years resulting in the biggest failures in the biggest games have been offensive. Which means he’s doing both jobs poorly. Despite all of the talent he’s stock piled, he has major gaps on offense. O line this year. RBs last year. Retarded play calling consistently. It’s becoming obvious he wins with talent that doesn’t need coaching(worthy) or comes coached(mitchell, golden). If the offense isn’t fixed this week(it won’t be), we’re going 5-7 or 6-6. The defense can’t will us to 9 or 10 wins this year.

Posted
3 hours ago, gmr548 said:

 

I think this is actually the most frustrating part about yesterday. We knew the OL play and QB play were bad and going to cost us games even if it hadn't materaialized yesterday. But we were pretty clearly unprepared to match the intensity of a Florida team that played extremely hard, which was very predictable given how their season has gone and all of the talk surrounding the program. We looked like we expected them to shit down their own leg at the sight of us like we did aginast Georgia.

Sark has obviously earned grace but that is likely never getting fixed.

Mack is back in town. I’m sure he’s been mentoring Sarkisian.

“Stephen, now you know that winning too much isn’t good for the kids. Have another cookie. Gynecomastia isn’t so bad. Sally likes it. And if Sally likes it, I like it.”

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Posted
2 hours ago, MrBig said:

OL Flood - suspended and fired as Rutgers HC

ST Banks - part of Sumlin’s fired aggy staff

RB Scott - part of Neal Brown’s fired WVU staff 

Asst Neal Brown - fired as WVU HC 

Asst Kerry Joseph - Eberflus’ QB coach in Chicago (Eberflus was fired)

Co-DC Nansen - not fired but was alleged to be Sark’s drinking buddy at UW & USC, was on staff when Sark was fired at USC

QB Milwee - part of fired HC Terry Bowden’s staff at Akron

Mike Bimonte - played backup QB for Flood during his stint at Rutgers HC where Flood was fired

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