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10 minutes ago, tvko23 said:

Glad we're back to square one: relitigating a road win at Alabama to close out Nick Saban's tenure in which Ewers threw for 350. This might be the worst thread of any message board on the Internet.

Yean, we hate our big wins. 

And if he was worth anything, Ewers would have thrown for 351 yards.

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21 minutes ago, tvko23 said:

Glad we're back to square one: relitigating a road win at Alabama to close out Nick Saban's tenure in which Ewers threw for 350. This might be the worst thread of any message board on the Internet.

People seem to forget that in the Alabama game Quinn fumbled the ball on a crucial 4th down QB sneak at midfield. It was so bad that we were able to advance it for a 1st down since Quinn never even had possession of the snap to establish it was actually a fumble. That could have been a huge momentum swing had we been unable to convert. 

After that fuckup we got good Quinn and went on to win the game. It wasn’t a clear cut ass whooping of Alabama as people would like to say. But much respect for Quinn and the team winning in Tuscaloosa. 

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1 hour ago, HtownHorn said:

Yes, that was a shitty throw bcause Worthy had to adjust his route to come back to the ball. Ewers absolutely can not throw the post where it needs to go which is in front of the WR's outside shoulder. Every time it's thrown to the WRs inside shoulder. Worthy made a great adjustment to make it look like a great throw, but had Ewers put it on his outside shoulder Worthy runs under it without falling down. The best thing you can about this throw was it was general vicinity of Worthy as opposed to 5 yards in front and inside like the throw to Golden on Saturday. The ball needed to be where the A starts, not between the A and L, but that's what happens when you have shitty footwork like Ewers does on that throw.

The camera angle from behind Ewers which shows Cook celebrating the play shows just how bad a throw it was.

That’s not even the throw I was talking about. 2022. 

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1 hour ago, HtownHorn said:

Was he laid out during that throw and still delivered a near perfect pass? The throw to Worthy was a poor throw that Worthy made a great adjustment to catch. Ewers absolutely can not throw back side posts to save his life. Just like the 1st drive on Saturday, Ewers threw the ball over the right shoulder of Golden, who was breaking open on the post route. It's incredible just how poor he is at throwing that pass considering it's a staple of the Sarkisian offense.

So the scenario has to be he was laid out? How hard does the hit have to be and how soon after the ball was let go? Does it have to be a route like that or can it be another route? How far does the route have to be from the line? Does it have to be a hit coming from his right or can the guy be coming blind side? Does the guy have to come untouched or can he come free after an initial block? Do we have to have verbal confirmation from Sark that the QB saw him coming and knew he was gonna get hit? Or is a post game interview of him explaining knowing he was going to get hit ok enough? I just wanna get it right before I post something and get told it wasn't the same.

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1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

Holy shit you are peak Texas fan.  Just the worst collection of whiny, know-nothing misanthropes on the internet.  Remind me to never listen to your hot football takes again.  By the way, Kirk Herbstreit has forgotten more about football than you've ever known and he clearly disagrees.  Maybe stop drinking.

 

Oh he has shitty baseball takes, too.  A little something for everyone.  

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The way that Surly feels about Quinn reminds me of the way Shaggy felt about Dom Espinosa lmao

 

At the end of the day, Quinn is gonna be a repetitive name in the history of this program, has won a fuck of games as a starter and has lead us this year to 9-1 and #3 in the nation.  It also can be true that idk if we win a title with yesterday’s Quinn. Michigan/Florida Quinn, bring it.   D is gonna be good enough to keep us in any game we play.  

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43 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

This is what this thread feels like.

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I would’ve gone with a gif of Quinn throwing a pass to the back of Ja’Tavion Sanders’ helmet but I can’t find that clip anywhere. 

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This thread is gonna be very different after Quinn pisses down his leg in College Station. 

I really hope he and Sark can handle the pressure in aggyland . Sark is going to have to earn his money with best A+ play calling. We shouldn’t be discussing this on a 4th year, 3rd year starter but here we are. He is who is he so all we can do is hope the best .
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David Pierce sucks. We could have landed Paul Skenes if he weren't a  moron. Skenes wanted to come here but Piece refused his NIL deal because he wanted every player to get the same amount. Fucking idiot. So of course he goes to LSU and wins a NC. God I loathe Pierce so much. 

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Here is the thing. If Quinn's pass to Worthy against Bama last year sucked, I want that sucky Quinn back. Because his long balls against Arky were 7 yards overthrown and just plain horrible.

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1 hour ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

David Pierce sucks. We could have landed Paul Skenes if he weren't a  moron. Skenes wanted to come here but Piece refused his NIL deal because he wantes every player to get free same amount. Fucking idiot..So of course he goes to LSU and wins a NC. God I loathe Pierce so much. 

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5 hours ago, Hookem10 said:

If average Quinn is what we get then sark will need to scheme the offense to win games. Earn his paycheck. Score enough points and protect the defense 

that’s what sark has already been doing for two years. quinn has had 5x as many shaky games as he has had games where he cruises and looks confident and capable. sark was already dumbing down his offense for quinn last year, and this year it’s gotten so bad that the offense has essentially been reduced to nothing but quick hitters. quinn is not some up and down qb, he is who he is, and we’ve been getting “average quinn” the overwhelming majority of the time the last two years. this is who we are. sark has been the one winning us games on offense for two years now, not quinn. 

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QE, with sark as his third year coach, and surrounded by the best pass catchers in america, is no.25 nationally in QB RTG, and no.68 nationally in yards gained oer pass.

Arch Manning is no.2 nationally in both categories. 

weird how they have the exact same coach and surrounding cast, and yet both the eyeball test and the stats show that sark runs totally different offenses for each qb, with the arch manning offense being much more dynamic and explosive. hmm…i wonder what conclusions we can draw from that.

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22 minutes ago, Derka said:

QE, with sark as his third year coach, and surrounded by the best pass catchers in america, is no.25 nationally in QB RTG, and no.68 nationally in yards gained oer pass.

Arch Manning is no.2 nationally in both categories. 

weird how they have the exact same coach and surrounding cast, and yet both the eyeball test and the stats show that sark runs totally different offenses for each qb, with the arch manning offense being much more dynamic and explosive. hmm…i wonder what conclusions we can draw from that.

301 pages, 15,307 posts, and Derka just posted the dumbest post in this thread. My 16 year old daughter could answer this one for you Derka. She plays on a volleyball team that is miles better than her district. Early in the season they were playing really highly ranked teams like Dripping Springs and Fulshear in good Pre District tournaments. She got hurt just before district play and didn't return until just before playoffs. Her backup has a higher hitting percentage because she only played vs the shitty district teams. Good thing her coach isn't you or they lose 1st round of the playoffs.

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40 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

301 pages, 15,307 posts, and Derka just posted the dumbest post in this thread. My 16 year old daughter could answer this one for you Derka. She plays on a volleyball team that is miles better than her district. Early in the season they were playing really highly ranked teams like Dripping Springs and Fulshear in good Pre District tournaments. She got hurt just before district play and didn't return until just before playoffs. Her backup has a higher hitting percentage because she only played vs the shitty district teams. Good thing her coach isn't you or they lose 1st round of the playoffs.

That was a pretty bad comparison because using your way of thinking, we just played the worst pass defense in our “district”…..  

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57 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

301 pages, 15,307 posts, and Derka just posted the dumbest post in this thread. My 16 year old daughter could answer this one for you Derka. She plays on a volleyball team that is miles better than her district. Early in the season they were playing really highly ranked teams like Dripping Springs and Fulshear in good Pre District tournaments. She got hurt just before district play and didn't return until just before playoffs. Her backup has a higher hitting percentage because she only played vs the shitty district teams. Good thing her coach isn't you or they lose 1st round of the playoffs.

and who exactly has quinn played? he was terrible against the one team we played with a pulse, and his best win is against 5-3 vanderbilt where we scored zero TDs and six total points in the second half. show me all of the skins that QE has on his wall from this season?

beyond that, just look at the tape. arch’s tape dominates quinn’s tape despite arch playing way fewer snaps. QE has had 3-4x as many opportunities as Arch has had to put together a solid film reel, and yet its arch who we see making his reads and hitting his progressions, its arch who we see making plays with his legs, its arch who we see keeping his eyes downfield while moving up in the pocket, and its arch who we see making play after play downfield. what does quinn’s highlight reel look like, besides self sacks, sideways throws, and “jackpot!” level deep balls that land 15 yards beyond receiver? 

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14 minutes ago, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

Turns out, Derka understands the QB position better than Sark. I don’t know why we’ve wasted time sifting through coaches for the past decade when the obvious choice was right here on Surly.

what exactly have i posted that makes you say this?

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I always love the deep ball discussions here. What about the throw 1.5 years ago? Ewers has played a lot of football the tape does not lie. He struggles throwing the deep ball. Yes, he will have a game he does it well every once and a while, but that is it. His deep ball is not something the team can rely on. That is the reason why people can remember a deep ball from 1.5 years ago, because they are so infrequent. 

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3 hours ago, Thatguy said:

301 pages, 15,307 posts, and Derka just posted the dumbest post in this thread.

Derka has Derka’d up this thread a few times, but the dumbest post on this thread by far is the one where you were using the most incorrect and incoherent pattern switching to defend Quinn’s field vision by saying nobody was open when it is clear you have no fucking idea how pattern switching actually works.

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OTF and rod barbers went in depth on the offense vs Arkansas. Reasoned analysis. Issues - Arkansas went 3 high, Texas struggled some last year with it. Sark not calling the same motion and offensive sets. QE struggling, lack of inside run game a big issue, puts more stress on QE and sark. Said sark dialed it up well in the second half, he did simplify the play calling for QE to 2 reads and a check down. Bond curl route and check down to Juan Davis for the first were both highlighted and discussed. So was the pylon throw and moving the pocket on the TD to Golden. Says the biggest issue with 3 high is that defenses can stay disguised for longer. Not sure why sark isn’t doing what worked last year. Empty backfield/reload, empty backfield, 6 OL package, compressed sets, overloaded sets, etc, Neither really had the answer but it’s clear it all comes together - sarks calls, QE’s play, lack of an inside running game and here you go, a talented offense that always seems off. Pretty clear to me that sark’s offense as high flying as it is, relies heavily on the inside run game to set it all up. Gotta run the ball. Need the OL and RBs to perform down the stretch, hopefully that will ease some pressure on the passing game, those play calls and frankly help QE play better.

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5 minutes ago, troph said:

relies heavily on the inside run game to set it all up. Gotta run the ball.

Which GA was able to completely shut down.  Which atms defense is also very proficient at as well.  What the ags are not good at is tackling in space.  Rewatch the USC game.  They were in the backfield all day.  The USC qb was just able to shrug off tackles and make plays with his legs.  It's going to be a long day if Texas tries to run the ball up the middle on the ag front 4.  This isn't a team you want to get behind the chains with.  3rd and long and they are sending the house every time.  If the line can't pick up the blitz, use misdirection, and make accurate passes in that soft atm underbelly, QE is going to get killed.  

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2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

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Ball should be coming out now to the pylon and it's an easy touchdown as the DB is turned around. Instead Quinn holds the ball entirely too long.

Or Moore wide open in the middle but I’m just an out of shape arm chair Qb 

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2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

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Ball should be coming out now to the pylon and it's an easy touchdown as the DB is turned around. Instead Quinn holds the ball entirely too long.

Lmao there should be a thread of screenshots like this with a multiple choice of "what happens next?" It would be one of the funniest threads on the site. 

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2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Ball should be coming out now to the pylon and it's an easy touchdown as the DB is turned around. Instead Quinn holds the ball entirely too long.

I was screaming this all game.  He's not passing to where the receiver will be, he passes to where they are.  The ball needs to be out of his hand before the break.

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6 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

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Ball should be coming out now to the pylon and it's an easy touchdown as the DB is turned around. Instead Quinn holds the ball entirely too long.

Ball to Wingo was floated and late, but Moore is wide ass open 

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2 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Ball to Wingo was floated and late, but Moore is wide ass open 

I personally think this was a 1 read route to Wingo that he was throwing regardless. But still look at defenders hips...ball should be on its way 100% as Wingo comes out of this break. 

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8 minutes ago, immamac said:

Lmao there should be a thread of screenshots like this with a multiple choice of "what happens next?" It would be one of the funniest threads on the site. 

Choose your own adventure: Texas Football 2024

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9 minutes ago, immamac said:

Lmao there should be a thread of screenshots like this with a multiple choice of "what happens next?" It would be one of the funniest threads on the site. 

There is so many open receivers every week on crosses that never get the ball....it's actually insane.

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3 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Ball to Wingo was floated and late, but Moore is wide ass open 

Is Moore looking for the ball there? An experienced receiver would sit in that hole in the zone, but Moore just keeps running his route full speed and doesn't appear to turn to look for the ball into he at the 8 yard line (after the ball is in the air to Wingo). I'm pretty sure Moore ends up running into the corner's range before he is ready to catch the ball. 

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1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

Is Moore looking for the ball there? An experienced receiver would sit in that hole in the zone, but Moore just keeps running his route full speed and doesn't appear to turn to look for the ball into he at the 8 yard line (after the ball is in the air to Wingo). I'm pretty sure Moore ends up running into the corner's range before he is ready to catch the ball. 

I don't think Quinn can do off-schedule if he didn't run the predetermined route Quinn would fuck up the throw or just not know where to look. 

IMO we are seeing Quinns glass completely full from a mental standpoint, whether that's stress, playbook, whatever he's maxed out mentally before he's maxed out his physical attributes. 

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1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

Is Moore looking for the ball there? An experienced receiver would sit in that hole in the zone, but Moore just keeps running his route full speed and doesn't appear to turn to look for the ball into he at the 8 yard line (after the ball is in the air to Wingo). I'm pretty sure Moore ends up running into the corner's range before he is ready to catch the ball. 

If it is a 1 read route, then being late and floating it is worse. 

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19 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Which GA was able to completely shut down.  Which atms defense is also very proficient at as well.  What the ags are not good at is tackling in space.  Rewatch the USC game.  They were in the backfield all day.  The USC qb was just able to shrug off tackles and make plays with his legs.  It's going to be a long day if Texas tries to run the ball up the middle on the ag front 4.  This isn't a team you want to get behind the chains with.  3rd and long and they are sending the house every time.  If the line can't pick up the blitz, use misdirection, and make accurate passes in that soft atm underbelly, QE is going to get killed.  

We were talking about it during that game. QE isn’t mobile but Texas screen game could dampen A&M’s ability.

I get selling out for the inside run game is dangerous when it isn’t a strength, but not having it is a major issue that impacts QE play and sark’s play calling independently of QE’s struggles. They all compound on one another. 
 

and while arch is mobile I really don’t want him in third and long against that aggy front at Kyle field. That’s how freshmen lose games. 

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Reading this thread that's why I prefer to watch games alone. You're not a coach you don't see these guys every day you have no idea wtf you're talking about so just shut up. It's a beating to watch a game with a person like that. Especially when you're winning.

 

It's not even that a person like that is always wrong 100% of the time or doesnt make any good points. It's just the histrionics make you come off like a nut and it rubs people wrong. Like yeah man I'm sure you know better than Sark, sure. Keep getting upset about it. You're probably the same parent at a little league game yelling at coaches.

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9 minutes ago, troph said:

We were talking about it during that game. QE isn’t mobile but Texas screen game could dampen A&M’s ability.

Texas needs to be huge on the flare routes and when A&M starts sitting on those they need to attack the fuck out of York at LB. He's slow and their weakest defender in the pass game. Put him on skates and make him think where he just can't come down hill when we do run the ball.

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12 minutes ago, immamac said:

I don't think Quinn can do off-schedule if he didn't run the predetermined route Quinn would fuck up the throw or just not know where to look. 

IMO we are seeing Quinns glass completely full from a mental standpoint, whether that's stress, playbook, whatever he's maxed out mentally before he's maxed out his physical attributes. 

Not only that, I don’t think Quinn understands leverage. The final throw against Washington is one example. Quinn always throws the ball to a predetermined spot without factoring in what side the defender is to the receiver or how to hit his man in stride to continue to streak down the field. He’s not protecting his guys from getting walloped if they need to reach out or make themselves vulnerable to grab the catches he throws past the LOS. 

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6 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Reading this thread that's why I prefer to watch games alone. You're not a coach you don't see these guys every day you have no idea wtf you're talking about so just shut up. It's a beating to watch a game with a person like that. Especially when you're winning.

 

It's not even that a person like that is always wrong 100% of the time or doesnt make any good points. It's just the histrionics make you come off like a nut and it rubs people wrong. Like yeah man I'm sure you know better than Sark, sure. Keep getting upset about it. You're probably the same parent at a little league game yelling at coaches.

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11 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

You're not a coach you don't see these guys every day you have no idea wtf you're talking about so just shut up.

I’m no coach, but when I see a few guys wide open across the middle of the field, I’m gonna say the ball needs to be thrown. But I don’t know what the fuck I’m talking about since I’m not a coach. 

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