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4 minutes ago, boilerhorn said:

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For the gamblers among us, that is Greg McElroy's lifetime stat line.

ok i’m as down on quinn as anyone, but 31 are we attempts? damn. he ought to be able to eclipse that. probably not the nfl career that mcelroy dreamed of.

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I don't have a dog in this internet scrap, but some folks here think he will get cut in camp and others think he will be a very good NFL QB.  McElroy seems like a good baseline for you all to settle this with some real hard cash.  

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9 minutes ago, lemonandaturd said:

I don't have a dog in this internet scrap, but some folks here think he will get cut in camp and others think he will be a very good NFL QB.  McElroy seems like a good baseline for you all to settle this with some real hard cash.  

People think he’s gonna get cut in camp? There’s a near zero chance of that happening 

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9 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

People think he’s gonna get cut in camp?

Yep. Most teams only carry 2 QBs so he’s competing for the backup job with MILF Hunter.

that said, Miami has kept 3 QBs on the roster and still may do so.

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11 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Yep. Most teams only carry 2 QBs so he’s competing for the backup job with MILF Hunter.

that said, Miami has kept 3 QBs on the roster and still may do so.

Miami isn’t running 2 QBs on the roster when Tua is one of them. They will almost assuredly carry 3 

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3 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Miami isn’t running 2 QBs on the roster when Tua is one of them. They will almost assuredly carry 3 

I have almost zero interest in the NFL, but what happens when they carry 2 on the gameday roster and 1 on the scout team?  Can the scout QB be called up in one week if one of the other two gets injured?

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6 hours ago, Fondren & Main said:

@Derkayou know you can respond to multiple posts in one quote so you don’t have to do a consecutive triple post right?

 

5 hours ago, Derka said:

are there really people on this site who click on a thread, read every single unread post (in this case like i’m looking at ~75 unread posts), and then go back and reply to the posts they want to reply to? is that actually a thing?

 

5 hours ago, immamac said:

You can use the plus button and it saves it from page to page. So you can just quote all posts and address them individually 

 

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Let him cook. 

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41 minutes ago, The Dog said:

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Which of you is Paul?

1) Quinn went 11-3 as a starter in 2024.

2) Innactive QB can come in a game if the first 2 QBs get knocked out. 

Do not know if that applies to QB3 if he is on the practice squad, but I believe that it would be allowed. 

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14 hours ago, Nivek said:

I normally don't like doing this, but this is who you cited.  Forgive me if the esteemed Cory Kinnan doesn't inspire me with confidence in his opinion on QB play.   

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You stood by the stance, but you are just wrong.  3 Individuals have been presented (1 college, 2 pros) to refute this claim.   Now, you can stand by this stance and claim that completion percentage isn't a perfect metric, and you will get no argument from me about that, but when I press you for a better one out there what do you have?   For now, it seems like the best proxy out there.  And while we are being exacting, let's parse accuracy from precision and see if we can that delineated better?   As far as statistics being gamed, I suppose that is true, but I tend to think that coaches will call plays with higher percentages of success than ones with lower percentages more-often, not just QE's coach.  Do you have evidence this was happening?  

Since we are being precise with our terminology now, let's first define what pocket awareness is before bothering to discuss it.  Morons like me, think definitions matter.  

At this point it doesn't matter what I say, I provided you with numbers form an analytics guy and you shoot down the guy based on how he looks. Most analytics guys aren't chiseled jawline Brad Pitt looking guys. But lets be honest if you honestly think Quinn is an accurate passer beyond 10 yards then I'll just bow out of this and laugh at you for even having that thought. Every NFL scout and scouting report produced dinged Ewers for being inaccurate beyond 10 yards. They also dinged him for leaving his progressions too early and checking down thus further gaming his completion percentage. 

 

Here is some advanced stats from Lamar at Louisville with regards to accuracy. 

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15 hours ago, Fondren & Main said:

@Derkayou know you can respond to multiple posts in one quote so you don’t have to do a consecutive triple post right?

That dumbass will never figure that out. 

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On 5/10/2025 at 10:18 PM, jimmyjazz said:

Obviously Eli isn't in the NFL HOF . . . yet.  I think the majority opinion is that he will eventually make it.  He was only eligible just this year.

You are probably correct, but I dont think it is too deserving for reasons pointed out.  

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15 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

New page, and I've been slacking on posting the Ewers gifs, so here's a big-man-TD twofer. 

Goal line TD to Murphy against Wyoming:

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Goal line TD to Sweat in the 2023 Big 12 CCG:

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They could have run those in but no we have to pad Ewers stats.

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7 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

They could have run those in but no we have to pad Ewers stats.

Broke: Running the ball at the goal line

Woke: Padding Ewers' stats by passing at the goal line

Bespoke: Padding Murphy's and Sweat's stats by playing them as 300 lb WRs and passing at the goal line

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2 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Here is some advanced stats from Lamar at Louisville with regards to accuracy. 

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Advanced stats are probably more useful for QB than any other position.  It’ll never tell the full story but it certainly can paint a different story than perception.  
 

I wouldn’t say completion percentage is completely useless on a standalone basis, but it has less value than it once did.  And grading while subjective, paired with other metrics, tells a good story when broken down by depth of target.  It’s pretty basic but if you throw at or near the LOS, that completion number will be higher than if you push it down the field.

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2 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

Broke: Running the ball at the goal line

Woke: Padding Ewers' stats by passing at the goal line

Bespoke: Padding Murphy's and Sweat's stats by playing them as 300 lb WRs and passing at the goal line

I do enjoy a good big man TD.  Probably more so when thrown than run.  It’s fun for everyone.

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3 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

Advanced stats are probably more useful for QB than any other position.  It’ll never tell the full story but it certainly can paint a different story than perception.  
 

I wouldn’t say completion percentage is completely useless on a standalone basis, but it has less value than it once did.  And grading while subjective, paired with other metrics, tells a good story when broken down by depth of target.  It’s pretty basic but if you throw at or near the LOS, that completion number will be higher than if you push it down the field.

Which is why Josh Allen's college completion percentage numbers are not worth the time. According the advanced stats he was asked to make harder and more difficult throws than anyone else in his draft class. Baker Mayfield is kind of the golden boy of this debate as he was on target and accurate all over the field. 

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