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Just now, Longhornlove said:

JFC. You really don't get it? Wow. I should just mute you if you can't figure that out.

correct. i am wholly and completely unable to decipher the gibberish you keep dropping in here. i’ve known deaf people who don’t speak english who communicate more clearly than you do. so please, feel free to “mute” me any time. i can’t make any sense of any of our engagements anyway. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Derka said:

hoe many people are going to respond to that post without even attempting to refute a single word of it. sark has turned this program around, not quinn ewers. you feel differently? then explain why. 

It is a QB driven league/sport. Who did Sark get on a plane to see the moment they entered the portal? QE. That set things in motion, lots of moving parts and QE played a huge role in it. You don't have to believe it or accept it. I don't give a shit either way but it doesn't change things.

 

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3 minutes ago, Derka said:

hoe many people are going to respond to that post without even attempting to refute a single word of it. sark has turned this program around, not quinn ewers. you feel differently? then explain why. 

Because giving fucking zero credit for success to the player that plays the most important position on the team is pure idiocy.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Derka said:

correct. i am wholly and completely unable to decipher the gibberish you keep dropping in here. i’ve known deaf people who don’t speak english who communicate more clearly than you do. so please, feel free to “mute” me any time. i can’t make any sense of any of our engagements anyway. 

I get it. Reading comprehension isn't for everyone. Remember, you put yourself in a position to be criticized. I'm not going to show you pity. Go look in the mirror if you want pity.

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4 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Because giving fucking zero credit for success to the player that plays the most important position on the team is pure idiocy.

and  if i had done that then you’d be able to do what i asked and actually quote something specific. instead you’re just putting words in my mouth. i did not “give zero credit” to quinn, i argued with the idea that quinn has been leading his team to victories, and i gave the lions share of the credit where it’s due- the other dozens of people within the program who are doing their jobs the last two years better than quinn ewers has done his. i did not say that he’s played zero part in our success. 

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Just now, Derka said:

and  if i had done that then you’d be able to do what i asked and actually quote something specific. instead you’re just putting words in my mouth. i did not “give zero credit” to quinn, i argued with the idea that quinn has been leading his team to victories, and i have the lions share of the credit where it’s due/ the other 50 people in the program who are doing genie jobs better than quinn ewers has done his. i did not say that he’s played zero part in our success.

 

You are right.  A ton of posters quoted it because it was a fair, balanced nuanced take and not typical Derka Derkaing a topic.   We're all wrong and you are right.  Per usual.

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5 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

I get it. Reading comprehension isn't for everyone. Remember, you put yourself in a position to be criticized. I'm not going to show you pity. Go look in the mirror if you want pity.

again, no clue what you’re talking about. show me pity? huh? seriously, no clue. 

3 minutes ago, Skipper said:

You are right.  A ton of posters quoted it because it was a fair, balanced nuanced take and not typical Derka Derkaing a topic.   We're all wrong and you are right.  Per usual.

you still haven’t quoted anything specific. you’re so righteously indignant and you can’t even say why. 

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21 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Rewatched the game last night. In real time I thought Quinn played well in 1st half. On second watch it was even better. He had three poor throws deep. 2 to Bond and 1 to Wingo. All bad throws. Outside of that any criticism would be nitpicking. 

The second half was disastrous and Quinn's brain turned into pudding after he became really hobbled. Luckily we didn't throw much and had that epic TD drive to close out the game. 

Feels like a microcosm of his career. So much good, so much WTF. 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah for some reason I thought the injury occurred later but it happened with 10ish min left in the second. The Helm throw over the middle and a couple other good throws came after the injury. It’s almost like he went into halftime, had time to think about his injury, and came back out in the 3rd and was overthinking/skittish. It was only a couple plays for him but boy they were ugly. 

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CJ Vogel was at Sark press conference today. First question was about Ewers' injury, and Sark responded with "II think he's doing ok", which Vogel found to be a not very confident answer at the moment.

I'd guess Arch will get good reps at practice today. 

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3 minutes ago, Levi said:

Yeah for some reason I thought the injury occurred later but it happened with 10ish min left in the second. The Helm throw over the middle and a couple other good throws came after the injury. It’s almost like he went into halftime, had time to think about his injury, and came back out in the 3rd and was overthinking/skittish. It was only a couple plays for him but boy they were ugly. 

Injuries like that get more painful after sitting. 

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Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

I'm not going to be nice to you for any reason. You are a complete moron with a near single digit IQ.

there’s a lot of things you can say about me- i’m verbose, i’ve got anger issues, im not great at letting things go- but saying that im lacking in intelligence is not one of those things, and believing that about me is frankly ironic. i’m not asking you to be nice to me. i don’t care how you behave on this thread or anywhere else. i’m simply telling you that your latest string of posts make zero logical sense. that’s all.

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Just now, Dahobbs said:

Injuries like that get more painful after sitting. 

Yeah. You are better if you keep moving. Dude's last two throws were zero plant foot. Just ugly. I think Sark shoulda pulled the plug on him after those two throws.

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1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

Injuries like that get more painful after sitting. 

Yep and I bet the roll out on the first series was for Sark to see where his pain level was at. 

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1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

One factor in Quinn's favor going into B/CS is even though he hasn't played there either, he did go into Tuscaloosa and help beat the brakes off a very good Alabama team.  His ability to respond in a hostile road environment is not wholly unknown.  For Arch, it is definitely unknown.

That's the problem, he can't replicate that performance with any consistency. This thread would be completely different if Ewers was routinely putting up 300+ with multiple deep shots a game for TDs. The fact that as a 3rd year starter, he's eclisped the 300 yard mark once this season shoul be unacceptable.

When you compare that to Arch stats in the 2-1/2 games he was the QB1 people can see the clear difference vs. the 8-1/2 games for Ewers.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Derka said:

he’ll have nice numbers when all is said and done, but that will be a product of the fact that our program’s downfield passing history didn’t start until around the turn of the century, plus the fact that QE has been surrounded by the best offensive coaching and playing talent in america for two straight years. if he keeps playing the way he’s been playing and this team doesn’t win it all, then there’s no chance that he’s going to be remembered more fondly than the likes of sam, major, james brown etc. nice statistical career, but if he doesn’t find a way to lead us to the title then there won’t be a ton to remember him for other than showing up overweight and unkempt and then underperforming for three years.

Let's re-write this for your favorite coach Rick Barnes, could also do the same for Chris Beard:

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Barnes had nice numbers when all was said and done, but that will be a product of the fact that our mbb program’s history didn’t start until around the 90's, plus the fact that Barnes had some of the best playing talent in america like KD and TJ Ford.   Because his team never won it all, then there’s no chance that he’s going to be remembered more fondly than the likes of Penders, Abe Lemons etc. nice statistical career, but because he didn't find a way to lead us to the title then there won’t be a ton to remember him for other than showing up licking his lips on the sideline and then underperforming for 17 years.

And yes I keep coming back to this because you said upthread that you use hyperbole as a device.  Apparently you also use hypocrisy as a device as well because you are applying a standard to QE that you apparently don't apply to your favorite people.  Either the standard is the standard or it isn't.  And if you want to say "the standard is lower in mbb than football, football should compete for national championships every year and mbb the standard should be consistent F4 or E8," great - Barnes didn't hit that either.

So which is it:  Inconsistent standards based on your personal favorites?  Or hypocrisy?

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1 hour ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

Major being a "shitty human" wasn't germane to what was happening in 2000-2001

People who knew him knew he was a shitty person way back then too. There just wasn’t a twitter to get the word out to the masses.

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10 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

CJ Vogel was at Sark press conference today. First question was about Ewers' injury, and Sark responded with "II think he's doing ok", which Vogel found to be a not very confident answer at the moment.

I'd guess Arch will get good reps at practice today. 

 I watched the press conference.  It was the typical non-chalant non-answer Sark (or any other coach in America) would give to that question.  Especially considering they haven't practiced today.  There was absolutely nothing to take from it.   So of course some idiot $9.95er would try to read something into it.  

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2 minutes ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

Let's re-write this for your favorite coach Rick Barnes, could also do the same for Chris Beard:

And yes I keep coming back to this because you said upthread that you use hyperbole as a device.  Apparently you also use hypocrisy as a device as well because you are applying a standard to QE that you apparently don't apply to your favorite people.  Either the standard is the standard or it isn't.  And if you want to say "the standard is lower in mbb than football, football should compete for national championships every year and mbb the standard should be consistent F4 or E8," great - Barnes didn't hit that either.

So which is it:  Inconsistent standards based on your personal favorites?  Or hypocrisy?

rick barnes is a future hall of fame coach who is the best coach in the history of both UT’s and is likely to finish his career with more than 900, possibly even 1,000 wins. 

quinn ewers is a 1.000 rated QB surrounded by the best coaches and offensive players in america for two straight years and yet he keeps performing inconsistently at best, and flat out poorly at worst. 

what part of each guy’s resume makes you think this is somehow a proper analogy? 

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1 minute ago, Skipper said:

 I watched the press conference.  It was the typical non-chalant non-answer Sark (or any other coach in America) would give to that question.  Especially considering they haven't practiced today.  There was absolutely nothing to take from it.   So of course some idiot $9.95er would try to read something into it.  

Last thing Sark wants to say is Ewers is 100% healthy or Manning is starting, just dumb to try and read into it. 

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Posted (edited)
13 minutes ago, Levi said:

Yep and I bet the roll out on the first series was for Sark to see where his pain level was at. 

It seems more likely that the rollout was Sark seeing something he could attack and forgetting Quinn had a bum ankle. Sark tends to be stubborn with his approach until he realizes it's not working, at which point he changes direction. In 2022, he didn't seem to realize his approach wasn't working and kept going, but he's made progress since then. I just hope he figure out what is not working sooner, because if he does, he would be even more dangerous.

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1 minute ago, DanTheHorn said:

It seems more likely that the rollout was Sark seeing something he could attack and forgetting Quinn had a bum ankle. Sark tends to be stubborn with his approach until he realizes it's not working, at which point he changes direction. In 2022, he didn't seem to realize his approach wasn't working and kept going, but he's made progress since then. I just hope he figure what is not working sooner, because if he does, he would be even more dangerous.

Truest post in the thread

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20 minutes ago, Levi said:

Yeah for some reason I thought the injury occurred later but it happened with 10ish min left in the second. The Helm throw over the middle and a couple other good throws came after the injury. It’s almost like he went into halftime, had time to think about his injury, and came back out in the 3rd and was overthinking/skittish. It was only a couple plays for him but boy they were ugly. 

It's possible his ankle stiffened up.  I'm no doctor, I'll defer to @Magus Ossis, but I don't think all injuries have immediate performance consequences.

And, he could have gotten in his own head, too.

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14 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

People who knew him knew he was a shitty person way back then too. There just wasn’t a twitter to get the word out to the masses.

Ricky certainly knew it.

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2 minutes ago, Derka said:

rick barnes is a future hall of fame coach who is the best coach in the history of both UT’s and is likely to finish his career with more than 900, possibly even 1,000 wins. 

quinn ewers is a 1.000 rated QB surrounded by the best coaches and offensive players in america for two straight years and yet he keeps performing inconsistently at best, and flat out poorly at worst. 

what part of each guy’s resume makes you think this is somehow a proper analogy? 

Barnes is not even top 5 in win % for Texas' MBB coaches.  He rode a wave of Texas high school basketball coming up in the 90's to 2000's, just like the accusation you make of QE's stats being inflated due to Texas apparently not discovering the forward pass until 2000.  But according to you one is HOF and the other is poorly even though QE will be a top 3 QB at Texas in most metrics when he's done.  Try again.

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7 minutes ago, DanTheHorn said:

It seems more likely that the rollout was Sark seeing something he could attack and forgetting Quinn had a bum ankle. Sark tends to be stubborn with his approach until he realizes it's not working, at which point he changes direction. In 2022, he didn't seem to realize his approach wasn't working and kept going, but he's made progress since then. I just hope he figure out what is not working sooner, because if he does, he would be even more dangerous.

Why not both 

Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, MotownHorn said:

The "great" thing about him is he's never wrong....(in his own mind).

the “great” thing about you (and rex, and others) is how you pop into these threads exclusively to post about me, just zero pretense that you’re at all here to discuss the thread topic, just obsessing over me as usual, only for you two to walk away going, “man that derka guy sure is a problem. he just can’t help himself!” it’d be kind of funny if it weren’t so sad and thread derailing.

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1 minute ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

Barnes is not even top 5 in win % for Texas' MBB coaches.  He rode a wave of Texas high school basketball coming up in the 90's to 2000's, just like the accusation you make of QE's stats being inflated due to Texas apparently not discovering the forward pass until 2000.  But according to you one is HOF and the other is poorly even though QE will be a top 3 QB at Texas in most metrics when he's done.  Try again.

rick barnes is greatest texas basketball coach by about a billion miles. your entire premise is flawed and dumb.

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1 minute ago, Derka said:

the “great” thing about you (and rex, and others) is how you pop into these threads exclusively to post about me, just zero pretense that you’re at all here to discuss the thread topic, just obsessing over me as usual, only for you two to walk away going, “man that derka guy sure is a problem. he just can’t help himself!” it’d be kind of funny if it weren’t so sad and thread detailing.

Sorry to tell you this but nobody obsesses with you dude.  You just have frequently terrible yet extremely confident takes that people react to. Then you get incredibly defensive and verbose, and then it goes on and on.  For like a decade or more straight LOL.

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1 minute ago, Derka said:

rick barnes is greatest texas basketball coach by about a billion miles. your entire premise is flawed and dumb.

Wow could you miss the point harder?  Barnes could be the greatest coach in our history, and still underperformed vs. the standard that Texas wants.  Both can be true.  Just like you can be a 1.000 recruit and underperform the Texas standard.

Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Sorry to tell you this but nobody obsesses with you dude. 

first off, nobody who’s been here any amount of time believes this. second/for example, bob banned motown four times in two weeks earlier this year for his obsession with me. in fact a bunch of hoops regulars were calling out motown for his obsession no more than a week ago. oh and every post he’s made here today has been about me. but sure, you’re right, nobody here has any beef with me. for sho. 👌🏻 

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4 minutes ago, Derka said:

the “great” thing about you (and rex, and others) is how you pop into these threads exclusively to post about me,

You should just let them. 

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Posted
59 minutes ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

"Not me, I'm 'fair-and-balanced,' it's everyone ELSE who is out of touch.  If they'd just listen to my imminently reasonable and balanced takes, the Internet would finally FINALLY be at peace!"

 

 

New Surly Motto: imminently reasonable and balanced takes 

Soon, our takes will be reasonable and balanced?

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Posted
1 hour ago, Skipper said:

You are right.  A ton of posters quoted it because it was a fair, balanced nuanced take and not typical Derka Derkaing a topic.   We're all wrong and you are right.  Per usual.

It's always everyone else's fault. Poor Derka.

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Posted (edited)
20 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Wow this thread is completely out of control!! Lol

 

 

This is the 3700th thread of a motown derka beef. Then you have a bigger pussy than Quinn coming in as well, Rex.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Derka said:

rick barnes is greatest texas basketball coach by about a billion miles. your entire premise is flawed and dumb.

in 17 years he won 3 conference championships, went to 1 final four, and never won a title. He had some of the best college basektball players you could ask for year in and year out, I'd actually say Texas probably won in spite of Barnes. He was the only consistent thing year in and year out. Rick Barnes is the quinn ewers of Texas mens basketball. 

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