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On 10/28/2025 at 5:14 AM, HenryJames said:

 

There is a paranoia level of secrecy in working on these things.  The shell company thing is common for the land purchase and even some early permitting.  I hadn't heard of NDAs for elected officials, but it is standard for anybody else involved.  My company even had a code word for our client, to avoid accidentally saying their name in front of others who weren't under NDA.  I remember after my company had filed some paperwork for the shell company, I would get calls from tech magazines asking for confirmation on the project.  (They all knew which shell company equated to what brand name, because of past projects.) But, at some point, the client makes a big announcement about how much they are investing, how many jobs they are creating, and the what community programs they starting.  We still can't say shit without them saying it first, but it does loosen things up a bit. 

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3 hours ago, HenryJames said:

 

his last comment - "but the power!" is extremely apropos. There's been some solid work and writing around energy usage per million tokens consumed, and agents can routinely burn thousands to tens of thousands per simple "hello/good morning" responses. Even the most efficient setups consume a couple of kWhrs to process a million tokens. There's a hideous amount of power being consumed to do really no actual work aside from running up NVDA's market cap

 

note: "token" is a model-specific metric that refers to the size of each block of input given to a LLM, typically 4-6 characters including punctuation and spaces per token.

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59 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Jobs they are creating? How many people do they need to hire to maintain a data center? 100?

I would guess that 100 people is probably about right for midsize (100MW to 200 MW) data center, depending on the company. Physical security is the biggest job category.  You also have IT security, IT programmers, folks that maintain cooling and electrical systems.  At a large data center, just pulling replacing old disks might be a 24x7 job.  They may also have other functions colocated.   

The client will also take credit for temporary construction jobs.  

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43 minutes ago, Captainant said:

his last comment - "but the power!" is extremely apropos. There's been some solid work and writing around energy usage per million tokens consumed, and agents can routinely burn thousands to tens of thousands per simple "hello/good morning" responses. Even the most efficient setups consume a couple of kWhrs to process a million tokens. There's a hideous amount of power being consumed to do really no actual work aside from running up NVDA's market cap

 

note: "token" is a model-specific metric that refers to the size of each block of input given to a LLM, typically 4-6 characters including punctuation and spaces per token.

I’ve never understood the need to talk to AI like it’s a person. Hello, thank you, etc. It’s just a tool. We should use it like one. 



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