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1 hour ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Stop watching CNN. referencing actual facts! I can't handle my opinions being challenged by evidence!

fixed that for the living, breathing Onion article here

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  • henrygandorf
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    oh, and to add, let's offer up a 'comparable' analogy reversal and see how it fits.  who's the aoc of the right?  jim jordan?  matt gaetz? this is basically like if there was a huge earthquake he

  • henrygandorf
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    some people see 99% and consider that absolutism.  i am one of those people. this is not your wife grabbing your cell phone that you left in the other room.  this is not a quick favor.  this is a

  • RomaVicta
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    Yes, of course. She is the only woman or woman of color the left right (edit) focuses their ire on. There are no other examples. Great point. It's really all intellectual and rational. And usually ver

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47 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Any presidents budget proposal is pretty much a fart in a stiff breeze.

...until they don't get what they want, then threaten a government shutdown, then actually cause billions of dollars' worth of economic losses to the country by getting a government shutdown and still not getting what they want, and then inventing an (by their own admission) completely fake "emergency" to divert the funds to do what they wanted from the budget.

I mean, not like any of that shit would happen in a real democracy like ours, or anything... but just bear with me with this crazy, insane, completely stupid hypothetical.

I'm starting to get a feeling that it's probably a real bad idea to negatively engage AOC via social media.

3 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

Yeah, but the book she reads don't have lots of pitchers in 'em.  Advantage, GOP.

2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

People who can read also know Ronald Reagan opposed making MLK a national holiday and only signed it into law because it was passed by veto proof majorities.

season 1 of the uncertain hour podcast goes into the history of welfare reform. (cliffs: yup, it's racist)

 

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1 hour ago, Incredulity said:

Any presidents budget proposal is pretty much a fart in a stiff breeze.

The assertion was that the GOP consistently proposes to defund those programs. Cheeseweasel implied that this assertion was false. I provided budget proposals from Trump's White House in two consecutive years that proved the assertion true. And your response is to lecture me on the nature of presidential budget proposals? 

How about next time you just say this: Yes Dahobbs, you are right and Cheeseweasel was wrong, the GOP does consistently propose to defund those programs. 

And then, if you want to make the point you thought you were making, you could add: But the GOP doesn't really mean it when it proposes that stuff. It is just trying to rile up the base. 

And my response would be: how in the fucking world does that make it better? Do you really think that is at all a "good" point for you?  

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7 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

The assertion was that the GOP consistently proposes to defund those programs. Cheeseweasel implied that this assertion was false. I provided budget proposals from Trump's White House in two consecutive years that proved the assertion true. And your response is to lecture me on the nature of presidential budget proposals? 

How about next time you just say this: Yes dahobbs, you are right and Cheeseweasel was wrong, the GOP does consistently propose to defund those programs. 

And then, if you want to make the point you thought you were making, you could add: But the GOP doesn't really mean it when it proposes that stuff. It is just trying to rile up the base. 

And my response would be: how in the fucking world does that make it better? Do you really think that is at all a "good" point for you?  

Oh, snap.

What he said.  -----^

I've been kinda agnostic about this woman. 

But today, Pat Robertson came out talking shit about her.  

#teamAOC

2 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

I've been kinda agnostic about this woman. 

But today, Pat Robertson came out talking shit about her.  

#teamAOC

See? This is what I was talking about, earlier. They're skeert!

1 hour ago, hayden_horn said:

 

from apparently just the other day

God damn.  53 years old and putting 20 year olds to shame.

 

8 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

I've been kinda agnostic about this woman. 

But today, Pat Robertson came out talking shit about her.  

#teamAOC

 

19 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

Also, every time I check in on this thread, I leave it liking AOC more and more.

 

qft

Ah, Pat Robertson, the Yale-educated lawyer who vastly overstated his combat experience in Korea, failed the NY bar on his only attempt, and then dedicated his life to serving the Lord swindling the gullible.

THAT Pat Robertson.

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'm starting to get a feeling that it's probably a real bad idea to negatively engage AOC via social media.

 

her snapback game is damn strong 

25 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

God damn.  53 years old and putting 20 year olds to shame.

 

id get behind her presidential run !

2 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

And yet that has nothing to do with the fact that the GOP and Trump want to defund those programs. 

You keep using this word...

 

2 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

Trump literally proposed to defund those programs in both his 2018 and 2019 budgets proposed.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/omb/budget/fy2018/budget.pdf

See page 43 - "reform the welfare system" = $272 billion decrease in funding over 10 years

See page 43 - $190 billion reduction in SNAP (food stamps)

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/budget-fy2019.pdf

See page 141- "reform the welfare system" = $262 billion decrease in funding over 10 years

See page 141- $213 billion reduction in SNAP (food stamps)

Defund does not mean "reduce". 

And anyone who doesn't believe we need to reduce the amount our government spends is not paying attention. 

53 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

The assertion was that the GOP consistently proposes to defund those programs. Cheeseweasel implied that this assertion was false. I provided budget proposals from Trump's White House in two consecutive years that proved the assertion true. And your response is to lecture me on the nature of presidential budget proposals? 

How about next time you just say this: Yes Dahobbs, you are right and Cheeseweasel was wrong, the GOP does consistently propose to defund those programs. 

And then, if you want to make the point you thought you were making, you could add: But the GOP doesn't really mean it when it proposes that stuff. It is just trying to rile up the base. 

And my response would be: how in the fucking world does that make it better? Do you really think that is at all a "good" point for you?  

TLDR.

5 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

And anyone who doesn't believe we need to reduce the amount our government spends is not paying attention. 

So reducing government spending in one area is wholly justifiable as a counter to reduced revenue because of charitable corporate tax cuts combined with increases in other spending (defense, etc.)?

5 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

TLDR.

Incredulity's 6th grade book report:

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TLDR

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Cheeseweasel probably supports slashing local school funding to pay to build football stadiums for billionaires.

6 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

You keep using this word...

 

Defund does not mean "reduce". 

And anyone who doesn't believe we need to reduce the amount our government spends is not paying attention. 

Got it.  He wants to attack our deficit by 1) reducing revenue by cutting taxes for rich people, 2) INCREASING military spending of what is the largest defense budget in the world by a factor of 3-4, and 3) slashing spending on programs that are depended on by the weakest and most vulnerable, and 4) all projections are that the mix of those three will STILL lead to an increase in the deficit.

I'll give you this -- he's not the self-proclaimed "king of debt" for nothing.  The fact that he gets to layer on being an utter dickbag, benefiting the most powerful and hurting the weakest, well, that's just a bonus.

Just now, jimmyjazz said:

Incredulity's 6th grade book report:

 

Actually a more intellectually stimulating story than the leftist fan fiction pushed here.

3 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Actually a more intellectually stimulating story than the leftist fan fiction pushed here.

You misspelled "centrist." AOC isn't even particularly left-wing. It's just that what used to be the right-wing of this country has lost its marbles, the biggest case of mass self-brainwashing since Jonestown.

8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Got it.  He wants to attack our deficit by 1) reducing revenue by cutting taxes for rich people, 2) INCREASING military spending of what is the largest defense budget in the world by a factor of 3-4, and 3) slashing spending on programs that are depended on by the weakest and most vulnerable, and 4) all projections are that the mix of those three will STILL lead to an increase in the deficit.

I'll give you this -- he's not the self-proclaimed "king of debt" for nothing.  The fact that he gets to layer on being an utter dickbag, benefiting the most powerful and hurting the weakest, well, that's just a bonus.

Yea but he just wants to reduce funding not defund. Come on brisket how dare you understand nuance.

8 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Actually a more intellectually stimulating story than the leftist fan fiction pushed here.

"fan fiction" like the recipe I posted being a plan for deficit reduction?  Oh DO tell us more, really-bad-at-math people.

1 hour ago, Incredulity said:

TLDR.

I'm sorry. You are an idiot.

Is that short enough for you?

1 hour ago, Cheeseweasel said:

You keep using this word...

 

Defund does not mean "reduce". 

And anyone who doesn't believe we need to reduce the amount our government spends is not paying attention. 

I'm pretty sure it is a completely appropriate use of the word. 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/defund

Definition of defund

transitive verb

: to withdraw funding from

Merriam-Webster even provides a handy example that illustrates the appropriateness:

[/quote]Others are angry that more than two years into Republican control of all three branches of the federal government, Planned Parenthood still hasn’t been fully defunded.[/quote]

No need to say fully defunded if the word, as you say, means completely defunded as opposed to reduced funding. The meaning of reduced funding is also pretty clear from its prefix (de), which means down from.  

But of course, all of this semantics is beside the point. You knew what was meant (i.e., reduced funding). And you also know that reducing it overtime is the path to fully defunding it. 

1 hour ago, Dahobbs said:

I'm sorry. You are an idiot.

Is that short enough for you?

Relish in the wisdom of the enlightened left.

Relish in the wisdom of the enlightened left.

To be fair, all spots on the political spectrum seem sharper than you. Nickel next to a penny and all that.
9 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


To be fair, all spots on the political spectrum seem sharper than you. Nickel next to a penny and all that.

That’s great.

I for one look forward to your next scribal diarrhea.  Be sure to CAPITALIZE every other word.  It’s impressive.

I found Eurohorn's twitter.

 

1 hour ago, Incredulity said:

Relish in the wisdom of the enlightened left.

One, not left. Two, tldr. 

That’s great.
I for one look forward to your next scribal diarrhea.  Be sure to CAPITALIZE every other word.  It’s impressive.

Like you can even read every other word. We figure you manage one in three, in a good day.
3 hours ago, Rimbo said:

You misspelled "centrist." AOC isn't even particularly left-wing. It's just that what used to be the right-wing of this country has lost its marbles, the biggest case of mass self-brainwashing since Jonestown.

People just don't appreciate how much pure gold there is in these CR threads. You have to dig a bit, but it's there.

21 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


Like you can even read every other word. We figure you manage one in three, in a good day.

Good for you.

No capitalized words and less than 4 paragraphs.  

Good for you.
No capitalized words and less than 4 paragraphs.  

Praise from a moron. Bad day.
9 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


Praise from a moron. Bad day.

You’re catching on little buddy.

Brevity is the soul of wit.

4 hours ago, Rimbo said:

You misspelled "centrist." AOC isn't even particularly left-wing. It's just that what used to be the right-wing of this country has lost its marbles, the biggest case of mass self-brainwashing since Jonestown.

I’m guessing this is a troll comment. Floating the idea of 90% tax on corporations is nothing close to “centrist”. 

You’re catching on little buddy.
Brevity is the soul of wit.

I’ll take things you know nothing about for $500, Alex.
2 hours ago, GRHorn said:

I’m guessing this is a troll comment. Floating the idea of 90% tax on corporations is nothing close to “centrist”. 

It's closer to centrist than Trump is to:

- Christan values

- Fiscal conservatism

- Conservative foreign policy

- Anything in the neighborhood of the old notion that being Conservative was for people with brains

It's all a matter of relative truth. Trump is a con artist who got a bunch of people to think he was on their side, when he's anything but, and they're dumb enough to defend him and love him while he destroys every last vestige of what made America great. That MAGA is his supporters' motto is just sad irony.

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8 hours ago, Incredulity said:

You’re catching on little buddy.

Brevity is the soul of wit.

So correct. Be better though if you had more than a whit of understanding wit. Orherwise....yeah.

I'll give her detractors one thing; she's got some bat-shit crazy eyes.  As we all know, those are equally capable of bringing pleasure and pain. 

10 hours ago, Rimbo said:

It's closer to centrist than Trump is to:

- Christan values

- Fiscal conservatism

- Conservative foreign policy

- Anything in the neighborhood of the old notion that being Conservative was for people with brains

It's all a matter of relative truth. Trump is a con artist who got a bunch of people to think he was on their side, when he's anything but, and they're dumb enough to defend him and love him while he destroys every last vestige of what made America great. That MAGA is his supporters' motto is just sad irony.

Neither your initial comment or my response had anything to do with Trump. 

4 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

I'll give her detractors one thing; she's got some bat-shit crazy eyes.  As we all know, those are equally capable of bringing pleasure and pain. 

Semi-serious question, do the crazy eyes put a ceiling on her career?  

13 hours ago, Incredulity said:

Good for you.

No capitalized words and less than 4 paragraphs.  

Fewer.

1 hour ago, wildcat09 said:

Fewer.

prescriptivist

13 hours ago, Rimbo said:

It's closer to centrist than Trump is to:

- Christan values

- Fiscal conservatism

- Conservative foreign policy

- Anything in the neighborhood of the old notion that being Conservative was for people with brains

It's all a matter of relative truth. Trump Our Government is a con artist who gets people to think they are on their side, when they're anything but, and we're all dumb enough to defend the Federal Apparatus and love them while they destroy every last vestige of what made America great. That Generic Slogan that supporters' rally around every election only to be duped by said motto is just sad irony.

Fixed it for you.   See ya'll in a month

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