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LOL!!!! Dumbest post I’ve seen in a while but ultimately doesn’t mean anything in the context of this thread. This franchise is a career waster regardless of talent.

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17 minutes ago, 'stache said:

LOL!!!! Dumbest post I’ve seen in a while but ultimately doesn’t mean anything in the context of this thread. This franchise is a career waster regardless of talent.

Please list the QB's I listed that are currently measurably worse than Dak? And I honestly forgot to list Rogers, whom I would rather have in a heartbeat over Dak. 

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1 hour ago, 'stache said:

LOL!!!! Dumbest post I’ve seen in a while but ultimately doesn’t mean anything in the context of this thread. This franchise is a career waster regardless of talent.

If the Cowboys were going to win with Dak in a big way it would have been when he was dirt cheap. That was the window.

Window closed shut after the money came due and Jerruh Jerry'ed.

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4 hours ago, 'stache said:

So you're saying that dAk pReScOtT SuCkS aND iS OvErPaId. Every team pays their best players and still builds rosters.   

dak does suck and he is overpaid.  quarterback contracts are stupid and they will come down.  you’re a moron.

going back 12 years the only quarterback to win a super bowl with a ridiculous contract was stafford.  the rest were mahomes and brady who both took less, foles, wilson, flacco, and peyton.  beyond that you get into eli, brees, rodgers, roethlisberger, who were all paid near the top of the league, but they were making considerably less as a percentage of the cap than the awful contracts being given today.

the dak contract was horrible.  jordan love, trevor lawrence, tua, kyler, the list goes on.  they all are getting a considerably larger chunk of the cap than quarterbacks were getting 15-20 years ago.  the contracts are bad.  the dak contract was bad.  you don’t know shit about fuck and your wife is ugly. 

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2 hours ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

The Washington QB is better than Dak and a lot cheaper. Will be able to build around him. 

They also sagely hired Kliff to be the OC. Kliff isn’t not a HC he is a great OC though. And he will be great for JD’s development. 
 

the truth is Jerruh’s ego won’t allow him to do what needs to be done. Sit back and let a real GM make the team work and get the right pieces to win. Hire the right coaches. 
 

he won’t allow it because he wants to say he coached the team. That any SB is all his doing. Hence welcome to the suck. 30 years of suck because this shithead can’t let go that he can’t win his way. Jeez

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11 hours ago, futureman said:

Micah is getting the tag. 

That would be for 2026.  His 5th year is 25.  I would trade him between now and the draft.  Now he has max value.  Might get 2 ones.  
 

this season is a waste.  This team needs picks.  Lots of them.  

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34 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

They also sagely hired Kliff to be the OC. Kliff isn’t not a HC he is a great OC though. And he will be great for JD’s development. 
 

the truth is Jerruh’s ego won’t allow him to do what needs to be done. Sit back and let a real GM make the team work and get the right pieces to win. Hire the right coaches. 
 

he won’t allow it because he wants to say he coached the team. That any SB is all his doing. Hence welcome to the suck. 30 years of suck because this shithead can’t let go that he can’t win his way. Jeez

Thanks to adrenochrome and daily infusions of alien dna Jerry will be running the team 100 years from now.  130 years of suck.

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On 9/22/2024 at 7:37 PM, Vic Mackey said:

Can't afford $8mill a year, proceeds to sign CD to $34mill a year, Dak to $60mill a year.

Got it.

Henry would have been a great addition here. But nope, we went back to washed up Zeke and a bunch of no talent spares behind him.

We can't run the ball or stop the run. You will get ran off the field constantly with this setup.

Think of this.  Henry is $8 mil.  He’s paying Trey fucking useless Lance $5 mil to do zero.  And that could have paid Henry or found an FA DT and used the wasted list 4 pick on a solid RB.  Fuck you jerry.  

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6 hours ago, Texzilla58 said:

Think of this.  Henry is $8 mil.  He’s paying Trey fucking useless Lance $5 mil to do zero.  And that could have paid Henry or found an FA DT and used the wasted list 4 pick on a solid RB.  Fuck you jerry.  

It's malpractice......

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4 minutes ago, futureman said:

dak does suck and he is overpaid.  quarterback contracts are stupid and they will come down.  you’re a moron.

going back 12 years the only quarterback to win a super bowl with a ridiculous contract was stafford.  the rest were mahomes and brady who both took less, foles, wilson, flacco, and peyton.  beyond that you get into eli, brees, rodgers, roethlisberger, who were all paid near the top of the league, but they were making considerably less as a percentage of the cap than the awful contracts being given today.

the dak contract was horrible.  jordan love, trevor lawrence, tua, kyler, the list goes on.  they all are getting a considerably larger chunk of the cap than quarterbacks were getting 15-20 years ago.  the contracts are bad.  the dak contract was bad.  you don’t know shit about fuck and your wife is ugly. 

I enjoy @'stache content and I hear what he is saying. It's really two different arguments. One is that the bloated QB contract is the new norm, and that it doesn't affect other salaries. I'll let the more learned debate that. The other is by what measure does Dak deserve to be treated as the centerpiece of a team. He doesn't show up in the big games, until the game is out of reach and he gets some great meaningless stats that the other team is happy to give up to get the game over. Perhaps a new start would help him. As everyone here has pointed out, Jerry Jones is the real problem, but that doesn't change the fact that paying Dak an enormous salary is detrimental to the team on many, many levels.  

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40 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

I enjoy @'stache content and I hear what he is saying. It's really two different arguments. One is that the bloated QB contract is the new norm, and that it doesn't affect other salaries. I'll let the more learned debate that. The other is by what measure does Dak deserve to be treated as the centerpiece of a team. He doesn't show up in the big games, until the game is out of reach and he gets some great meaningless stats that the other team is happy to give up to get the game over. Perhaps a new start would help him. As everyone here has pointed out, Jerry Jones is the real problem, but that doesn't change the fact that paying Dak an enormous salary is detrimental to the team on many, many levels.  

Stop quoting the troll, he adds nothing to the conversation. The Cowboys have been “out of reach” within the first quarter and a half of games because of putrid defense and shitty opening play calling without any adjustments when they don’t work. That affects qb play in case you hadn’t noticed. The point is that after Mahomes nobody on that list is clearly better than others accomplishment-wise. Stafford caught a great coach at a great time with good surroundings. Everyone else on that list has had some big seasons and also been accused of disappearing in big games (see multiple MVP Lamar Jackson, regressed Jalen Hurts, etc).
 

There are some on that list I’d prefer to Dak, but that’s not the choice (and half that list is laughable). It’s pay Dak or draft a rookie and play him immediately. That just isn’t a realistic choice unless you’re in full tank mode which Jerry clearly doesn’t want to do. The problem isn’t that he’s (for now) the highest paid player, they can still build a roster like everyone else, it’s that they are paying players and putting them in a system with useless retread coaches. Nobody young and innovative will put up with Jerrys bullshit.
 

So ultimately it doesn’t matter, pay, don’t pay, the franchise isn’t going anywhere. Every qb on that list would fail in Dallas under current management. Even Mahomes would probably have a ceiling under these clowns. Maybe he could get these losers to the conference title game on his own, but no fucking super bowls. Fuck Jerry Jones. He’s the problem, not the qb, not the contracts, it’s him and his toxic aura that infects everything and everyone around him. 

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Dak has probably the worst body language I've ever seen out of a QB. Just sits there doing nothing while his team gets drummed. No fire, no passion, no rallying the troops. That's what really pisses me off. The guy just isn't a leader. Nobody wants to rally behind him. That's a problem for any QB, let alone the highest paid player in the NFL.

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13 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Stop quoting the troll, he adds nothing to the conversation. The Cowboys have been “out of reach” within the first quarter and a half of games because of putrid defense and shitty opening play calling without any adjustments when they don’t work.

This is a fair post, and I agree with most of it, except for saying Dak is better than half my list. I think he is equal to them, but they don't come with the ridiculous salary. What I do take issue is you blaming the defense, coaching and not Dak. Many on YouTube have broken down his performance against Green Bay. From taking horrible sacks when he could have thrown the ball away and kept the team in field goal range, to staring down and throwing to the covered wrong player on his first INT to set up a short TD drive, to his' "I'm being paid by the mob to throw this game" pick six, Dak is the most responsible for putting the team in the 28-point first-half defect. It was all on Dak. Dude sucks. 

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I’m of the opinion that Prescott essentially has ridden his 2016 season to getting paid tens of millions of dollars a season to be a stats bully against shitty teams and soft defenses at the end of beatdowns. He’d be gone without that initial 13-3 season. Here we go. 

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4 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Blame should be shared between Dak and Jerruh.

Fuck em both.

 

When the team is immediately playing from behind, your playbook is vastly limited. Back to back weeks it’s 14 -3 after two possessions. The defense has been complete garbage

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  • Matthew Stafford
  • Geno Smith
  • Baker Mayfield
  • Lamar Jackson
  • Josh Allen
  • C.J. Stroud
  • Patrick Mahomes
  • Justin Herbert
  • Kirk Cousins
  • Andy Dalton
  • Jared Goff
  • Jordan Love
  • Sam Darnold
  • Jalen Hurts
  • Brock Purdy
  • Derek Carr
  • Justin Fields
  • Aaron Rodgers
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1 hour ago, A’Dam Psycho said:

Bet yall can’t name 10 QBs you’ll take over Dak right now

He's probably #10  - Jackson, Allen, Burrow, Mahomes, Rodgers, Stafford, Purdy, Herbert, Goff, Dak(maybe Love)

He's a top 3rd of the league QB.   the issue is what we pay him to be that as he gets to the back end of his career.  that is on the idiots that own the club who don't know how to build a roster or hire coaches. the easiest path is to sign the guys that have pro bowl next to their name 

You are not only an NFL QB you are the QB of the Cowboys.  you win you are king, you lose you suck.  just ask Danny White.

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35 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

He's probably #10  - Jackson, Allen, Burrow, Mahomes, Rodgers, Stafford, Purdy, Herbert, Goff, Dak(maybe Love)

He's a top 3rd of the league QB.   the issue is what we pay him to be that as he gets to the back end of his career.  that is on the idiots that own the club who don't know how to build a roster or hire coaches. the easiest path is to sign the guys that have pro bowl next to their name 

You are not only an NFL QB you are the QB of the Cowboys.  you win you are king, you lose you suck.  just ask Danny White.

You would take Dak over Stroud, Love and Darnold? Are you Jerry Jones?

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2 hours ago, A’Dam Psycho said:

When the team is immediately playing from behind, your playbook is vastly limited. Back to back weeks it’s 14 -3 after two possessions. The defense has been complete garbage

Why not get a Sam Darnold or Derek Carr and spend on defense then?

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1 hour ago, dcar00 said:

He's probably #10  - Jackson, Allen, Burrow, Mahomes, Rodgers, Stafford, Purdy, Herbert, Goff, Dak(maybe Love)

He's a top 3rd of the league QB. 

lol

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29 minutes ago, royiv said:

You would take Dak over Stroud, Love and Darnold? Are you Jerry Jones?

Sam Darnold?

 

 

Yes, he’s having a better season at this point, that said, it’s a CLEAR outlier in his history. 
 

Sam Darnold is a dogshit player. He’s the Sonny Dykes of NFL QBs.

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34 minutes ago, royiv said:

You would take Dak over Stroud, Love and Darnold? Are you Jerry Jones?

I had Stroud in there but I think I erased him. Love I said equal to Dak.  Darnold is very meh.

 

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4 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

Sam Darnold?

 

 

Yes, he’s having a better season at this point, that said, it’s a CLEAR outlier in his history. 
 

Sam Darnold is a dogshit player. He’s the Sonny Dykes of NFL QBs.

He’s a fraction of the cost of Dak and has demonstrated he can be a serviceable option with a good team around him. Get a middle of the pack guy, pay him as such, and invest in putting together a team that can win. Or pay top dollar to Dak and a bunch of scrubs and you end up with the Cowboys. Nick Foles won a Super Bowl and was named MVP while he was with the Eagles. You don’t have to have the highest paid QB in the league to win. 

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It’s like one of those things where you get 10 bucks to make a Halloween candy line up.

Dak’s sitting up on the $6 line like he’s a full sized Snickers or Twix. But really he’s just a box of Nerds. Decent but once you’ve paid for him too much of him will make you sick and the only other things you can buy are candy corns and black licorice.

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Just now, royiv said:

He’s a fraction of the cost of Dak and has demonstrated he can be a serviceable option with a good team around him. Get a middle of the pack guy, pay him as such, and invest in putting together a team that can win. Or pay top dollar to Dak and a bunch of scrubs and you end up with the Cowboys. Nick Foles won a Super Bowl and was named MVP while he was with the Eagles. You don’t have to have the highest paid QB in the league to win. 

Darnold sucked since he came out of college.  using him as an example makes no sense.  He's a bottom 3rd type QB.

No one with a brain thinks Dak is worth his contract at all.   We wasted the good Dak contract and now have the bad Dak contract.

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9 minutes ago, royiv said:

He’s a fraction of the cost of Dak and has demonstrated he can be a serviceable option with a good team around him. Get a middle of the pack guy, pay him as such, and invest in putting together a team that can win. Or pay top dollar to Dak and a bunch of scrubs and you end up with the Cowboys. Nick Foles won a Super Bowl and was named MVP while he was with the Eagles. You don’t have to have the highest paid QB in the league to win. 

He’s been a dogshit player his entire career on multiple teams. 
 

I called him the Sonny Dykes of NFL QBs, but at least Dykes took his team to a Championship game. Has Darnold ever lead a team to a winning season?

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25 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

Sam Darnold?

 

 

Yes, he’s having a better season at this point, that said, it’s a CLEAR outlier in his history. 
 

Sam Darnold is a dogshit player. He’s the Sonny Dykes of NFL QBs.

It's amazing how a mediocre QB who has had shit coaches and shit personnel around him amazingly looks a lot better with legit coaching and better talent around him. It's almost like QBs can't win by themselves and paying them like they can is stupid. 

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2 hours ago, futureman said:

 

 

  • Matthew Stafford
  • Geno Smith
  • Baker Mayfield
  • Lamar Jackson
  • Josh Allen
  • C.J. Stroud
  • Patrick Mahomes
  • Justin Herbert
  • Kirk Cousins
  • Andy Dalton
  • Jared Goff
  • Jordan Love
  • Sam Darnold
  • Jalen Hurts
  • Brock Purdy
  • Derek Carr
  • Justin Fields
  • Aaron Rodgers

That’s all? 

Arch Manning

Quinn Ewers

Cam Ward

Shedeur Sanders

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32 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Darnold is not dog shit. Seems like a solid starter. Did you guys bump your head and forget that that offense was completely terrible when Nick Mullens was running it?

Agreed. He looks pretty good to me. Darnold makes better decisions than Dak. Again, I love it and hope the Cowboys sign Dak over and over to horrible, soul-crushing contracts. 

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20 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

I just hope Jerrah hires Prime next year as HC.

 

Jerry isn't hiring a guy who is an even bigger diva and attention whore than he is. 

The next hire should be a young offensive mind that's excelling in the league. Joe Brady is reinvigorating a Bills offense that got stale. Someone like that should be the hire. 

Instead he'll hire a retread. 

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Just now, Hermanator said:

Jerry isn't hiring a guy who is an even bigger diva and attention whore than he is. 

The next hire should be a young offensive mind that's excelling in the league. Joe Brady is reinvigorating a Bills offense that got stale. Someone like that should be the hire. 

Instead he'll hire a retread. 

You know, I misread your last word the first time and it didn’t change the meaning at all. 

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2 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

Jerry isn't hiring a guy who is an even bigger diva and attention whore than he is. 

The next hire should be a young offensive mind that's excelling in the league. Joe Brady is reinvigorating a Bills offense that got stale. Someone like that should be the hire. 

Instead he'll hire a retread. 

He could hire the love child of Lombardi, Belichick and Reid and it wouldn't matter b/c they'll be playing with a shit roster that Skeletor put together. 

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3 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

He could hire the love child of Lombardi, Belichick and Reid and it wouldn't matter b/c they'll be playing with a shit roster that Skeletor put together. 

We can't afford Derrick Henry, we have to pay Trey Lance!

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9 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

Jerry isn't hiring a guy who is an even bigger diva and attention whore than he is. 

The next hire should be a young offensive mind that's excelling in the league. Joe Brady is reinvigorating a Bills offense that got stale. Someone like that should be the hire. 

Instead he'll hire a retread. 

IF he fires McCarthy he’ll likely promote Zimmer. Classic Jerrah for ya!

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11 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Herbert, Darnold, Geno Smith, Kirk Cousins? Lulz. Might as well keep going and include Trevor Lawrence, Daniel Jones.

Andy Dalton? Lol. 4 or 5 straight playoff losses

Same with Dak, except he gets paid a fortune to lose playoff games. 

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