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The Texans called. They would have dropped to 25 and the Texans low balled them.  
 

if there’s no one serious about moving up they’re fucked. 

Posted
1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

going to be interesting to see how many more picks before a guard goes.

at least we didn't take a Michigan DT again.

Especially when one drafted in the 4th round ends up in the Pro Bowl for somebody else.

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Just now, Drew said:

The Texans called. They would have dropped to 25 and the Texans low balled them.  
 

if there’s no one serious about moving up they’re fucked. 

Then you take the DT or the TE or WR, even a CB. Never a fucking guard at 12.

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Posted
1 minute ago, DougO said:

Then you take the DT or the TE or WR, even a CB. Never a fucking guard at 12.

A whole lotta of this. He was projected as a late 1st, probably second round....

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Projections aren’t worth shit. We all know that.  I saw most say best guard and top 16/17 pick. Not late first. 
 

Who the hell knows? 

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17 minutes ago, Drew said:

The Texans called. They would have dropped to 25 and the Texans low balled them.  
 

if there’s no one serious about moving up they’re fucked. 

Gtfo.  In recent trades Dallas has given up a relatively speaking king's ransom in exchange for dog shit.  And now all of the sudden no trams want to trade with them?  

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Just now, Bill Brasky said:

Gtfo.  In recent trades Dallas has given up a relatively speaking king's ransom in exchange for dog shit.  And now all of the sudden no trams want to trade with them?  

What I mean is if no one was serious about trading up at all then they have to stay a pick(and I’m not okay with the pick as my posts have pointed out). 
 

No one wanted to come up to 12 but one team we know of. 
 

not sure why you’re trying to say here. 

Posted
4 hours ago, DougO said:

I hope it isn't a guard at 12. It's just not good football math, whether it is a hit or a miss.

lulz

 

31 minutes ago, Drew said:

I know everyone hates Dak and thinks he sucks.

dak does suck.  shut the fuck up drew. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Drew said:

Projections aren’t worth shit. We all know that.  I saw most say best guard and top 16/17 pick. Not late first. 
 

Who the hell knows? 

I thought Kiper had him at mid 2nd round.  I know, Kiper, but who was saying top 20?

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3 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

I thought Kiper had him at mid 2nd round.  I know, Kiper, but who was saying top 20?

Yes Kiper did.  Dane Brugler and Jeff Cavenah(some others) had him as his best guard around 20. They rank them where they feel and hear they should.  No one really knows.  I don’t like the pick there but I don’t base it on “well the mocks said he’s Lower”. 
 

also another guard just went. So no. We couldn’t have gotten Booker later 

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Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, blacklab said:

Drew sucking Jerry jones dick. 
a story as old as time

What the fuck?  I hate this pick.  Are you people even reading my god damn posts?

I'm the Dak guy. Not the Jerry jones guy. He’s literally sabotaging Dak by not adding weapons and refusing to improve in FA. 
 

the only thing I’ve said is about the damn trade back scenarios, of which they only had 1.  And it wasn’t a good trade “allegedly” Jesus. 

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5 minutes ago, kingkoopa6 said:

for a half sec I thought we was going sanders at 12 

I didn’t see a guard coming tho 

Honestly, I wouldn't have been that mad. But I will confess that I have irrationally overhated Dak for some reason

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Their post presser is going to be all “the run game wasn’t a RB problem it was. A line problem”. And follow it up with “we like what we saw out of Tolbert and saw flashes out of Mingo!” 

 Fuckkkk

meanwhile Brock Hoffman was like a top 15 ranked guard on a a lot of metrics. 
 

they don’t NEED a guard. 

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The Cowboys best tackle by far is stuck at guard, and the starting tackles suck ass, so they overdrafted a guard, even though the other guard they started last year played well and is cheap, they signed a guard in free agency they like, and had another guard that was in close competition with the starting guard. 

The only way they seem like they could be better is with Smith moving to left tackle, figuring out which shitty tackle starts on the other side, and having a bunch of interior options.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, DougO said:

The Cowboys best tackle by far is stuck at guard, and the starting tackles suck ass, so they overdrafted a guard, even though the other guard they started last year played well and is cheap, they signed a guard in free agency they like, and had another guard that was in close competition with the starting guard. 

The only way they seem like they could be better is with Smith moving to left tackle, figuring out which shitty tackle starts on the other side, and having a bunch of interior options.

 

 

That would take some foresight.  

And also moving a guy that could potentially be a HOF at guard to Tackle(which he may be as well) 

think your right though.  Go Smith, Hoffman, Beebee, Booker and figure out RT to make it work.  Instead of worrying about both tackles sucking and covering you’re only doing one. 

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6 minutes ago, DougO said:

First time in my life I'm walking out on the draft, and the first round. I have no fucks left to give.

Wait…? THIS is the pick that sent you over the edge? You’re either dishonest or a hyperbole whore. 

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First time in my life I'm walking out on the draft, and the first round. I have no fucks left to give.

I did this last year. Only watched on thanksgiving day because I was at the in-laws and nothing else to watch. My sundays were way better. Of course I would look up the score Sunday evening or Monday, but I didn’t invest 3.5 hours watching vomit. I’m old enough to kind of remember Roger but mainly danny white so I’ve been watching for a minute.
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They’re not drafting Sanders. It’s a fun joke but that’s it. 
 

besides if you don’t like Dak you’ll hate Sanders. 

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Dak the human being is hardly hateable at all. He's just not the player the idiot Cowboys are paying for. 
 

Sanders would have a hard time being remotely as stand up and classy as Dak iff the field. 

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The 1st Round is only for QB, WR, OT's, preferably LT, on offense. But, maybe Jeanty is an every down RB? I'm surprised a TE like Loveland went that high. Warren, not so much.

Defense for playmakers regardless of position.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, DFW Horn said:

The 1st Round is only for QB, WR, OT's, preferably LT, on offense. But, maybe Jeanty is an every down RB? I'm surprised a TC like Loveland went that high. Warren, not so much.

Defense for playmakers regardless of position. 

have to admit I was surprised that 3 guards were chosen last night.

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To the Cowboys credit, we bitched when they drafted a Center early too. That turned out semi- OK. 

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They overdrafted Booker a little but it’s fine. Smith-Booker-Beebe-Hoffman-Guyton should be a good starting 5 and they can jettison Steele’s sorry ass after this season I think.

We’re talking about Jerry and Stephen. Could’ve been way worse. 

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Drew is screaming about Dak not having weapons, but the OL fucking sucked in the run game and pass game last season. No QB can succeed when he’s constantly under pressure from both the inside and outside.

 

I would rather they had drafted a T prospect and moved him to G (since the Ts sucked as bad as the Gs), but I understand the pick.

 

i think they wanted Jeanty, McMillian or trade back. When none of those were available they took the guy who was the best player on their board at their biggest position of need.

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1 hour ago, lilMAC25 said:

Drew is screaming about Dak not having weapons, but the OL fucking sucked in the run game and pass game last season. No QB can succeed when he’s constantly under pressure from both the inside and outside.

 

I would rather they had drafted a T prospect and moved him to G (since the Ts sucked as bad as the Gs), but I understand the pick.

 

i think they wanted Jeanty, McMillian or trade back. When none of those were available they took the guy who was the best player on their board at their biggest position of need.

Here’s the thing the OL wasnt good but wasn’t the worst part of the team. I have no problem with them taking another lineman. Just not there. With 3 WRs that’ll make a bigger impact immediately. Or even a pass rusher.  
 

we are going to bitch and moan about the offense and never say they lack the weapons and eat up Jerry saying “well we can’t pay for them” which is bullshit. 

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2 hours ago, tokamak said:

They overdrafted Booker a little but it’s fine. Smith-Booker-Beebe-Hoffman-Guyton should be a good starting 5 and they can jettison Steele’s sorry ass after this season I think.

We’re talking about Jerry and Stephen. Could’ve been way worse. 

Yeah I never am mad a drafting OL.

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Booker will probably be damn good, that's not an issue. But at 12 a guard, and where the Cowboys are at this point, it is a massive misappropriation of draft capital. 

Teams with starting guards drafted in the mid rounds will be winning championships and have much more well rounded teams. The Cowboys will have the most OL in Pro Bowl, and the biggest part of the salary cap. That don't win shit.

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6 hours ago, Drew said:

Here’s the thing the OL wasnt good but wasn’t the worst part of the team. I have no problem with them taking another lineman. Just not there. With 3 WRs that’ll make a bigger impact immediately. Or even a pass rusher.  
 

we are going to bitch and moan about the offense and never say they lack the weapons and eat up Jerry saying “well we can’t pay for them” which is bullshit. 

I disagree. 
 

 

Dallas just lost a HOF G on top of the OL being not good.

 

again, I’d have taken the top available T and played him at G, but that’s just me.

 

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Thats

5 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

I disagree. 
 

 

Dallas just lost a HOF G on top of the OL being not good.

 

again, I’d have taken the top available T and played him at G, but that’s just me.

 

that’s fair.  I think they had Booker as their top OL overall left.  So they took him. 

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Posted (edited)
13 minutes ago, Drew said:

Thats

that’s fair.  I think they had Booker as their top OL overall left.  So they took him. 

I’m guessing they’re praying that Henderson or Judkins falls to them at 2-12.

 

Or Luther Burden III

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Posted (edited)
15 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

I’m guessing they’re praying that Henderson or Judkins falls to them at 2-12.

 

Or Luther Burden III

I honestly worry they’ll go DB(not as deep as WR and especially RB in this draft) 

or go DL again. 
 

im worried they honestly believe they’re fine in the WR room. Or think they have a trade lined up. 

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The Hall Of Fame guard that they lost played along with a hall of fame left tackle and a multiple All pro center, and other guys with accolades.

How many playoff games did they win? Two? Three? 

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