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Just now, Chad said:

Remember how us Spurs fans felt watching an extremely talented piece in his prime be traded away for next to nothing? Now y'all know.

That was orders of magnitude different if only by how much better Luka is.

Posted
3 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

That was orders of magnitude different if only by how much better Luka is.

Kawhi : 2x Finals MVP

3x First team all NBA, 3x Second team all NBA

2x defensive player of the year, 3x defensive 1st team, 4x defensive 2nd team.

Luka : 0 Finals MVP

5x First team all NBA

1x NBA scoring champ

It all depends on how you value a player. Luka is an offensive juggernaut with zero defensive skills. I'd personally say Luka is a better player who showed flashes at a younger age, but Kawhi was also elite in a sense for a lengthy stretch.

Posted
9 minutes ago, Chad said:

Kawhi : 2x Finals MVP

3x First team all NBA, 3x Second team all NBA

2x defensive player of the year, 3x defensive 1st team, 4x defensive 2nd team.

Luka : 0 Finals MVP

5x First team all NBA

1x NBA scoring champ

It all depends on how you value a player. Luka is an offensive juggernaut with zero defensive skills. I'd personally say Luka is a better player who showed flashes at a younger age, but Kawhi was also elite in a sense for a lengthy stretch.


 

The situation in which they were traded isn’t comparable at all. Kawhi bailed on his team at the end of the 2018 season and then asked for a trade in the summer. Spurs were trading him with very little leverage. Luka was happy with the Mavs (and going to sign an 5 year extension this summer) and they traded him in the middle of the night to the 1 team in the league they had discussions with for 10 cents on the dollar. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Gotta love the Spurs fan coming in talking about Kawhi as if we give a fuck. Leonard isn’t in in Luka’s stratosphere and never was. He also wanted out of SA. Quit trying to contrite up comparisons to talk about the Spurs. Apples and oranges. 

I like Luka as much as anyone.  Hes great but some of yall are really over hyping him

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Posted
12 minutes ago, Chad said:

Kawhi : 2x Finals MVP

3x First team all NBA, 3x Second team all NBA

2x defensive player of the year, 3x defensive 1st team, 4x defensive 2nd team.

Luka : 0 Finals MVP

5x First team all NBA

1x NBA scoring champ

It all depends on how you value a player. Luka is an offensive juggernaut with zero defensive skills. I'd personally say Luka is a better player who showed flashes at a younger age, but Kawhi was also elite in a sense for a lengthy stretch.

It’s not comparable because Kawhi wanted out of SA. SA was forced to trade him. We did this to ourselves. 

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1 minute ago, Firemans4Horn said:


 

The situation in which they were traded isn’t comparable at all. Kawhi bailed on his team at the end of the 2018 season and then asked for a trade in the summer. Spurs were trading him with very little leverage. Luka was happy with the Mavs (and going to sign an 5 year extension this summer) and they traded him in the middle of the night to the 1 team in the league they had discussions with for 10 cents on the dollar. 

I'm well aware that Kawhi forced his way out while Luka was traded in one of the dumbest decisions ever.....the circumstances were drastically different. However both players were franchise cornerstones.  Kawhi was gonna be the next guy for the Spurs he won a finals mvp and appeared destined for big things. To have that traded away for peanuts sucked, especially watching him win a championship in his lone year in Toronto as a rental. Luka was the cornerstone for Dallas, the guy they were building around. Anthony Davis isn't gonna do much or a late first rounder.

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9 minutes ago, d2o said:

I like Luka as much as anyone.  Hes great but some of yall are really over hyping him

hard to argue against averaging 30 points ~9 rebounds ~9 assists for his playoff career. 

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Posted (edited)
1 minute ago, runthebone said:

Not a Mavs fan, but the word "generational" is being vastly overused in sports media.  Generational is once every 20 years. 

Not in North Texas...

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

We’re not. 

I mean, yeah, kinda. I've been on his bandwagon from the beginning, but...conditioning, defensive liability, leadership/on-court mannerisms, and now injury prone. With SGA and Wemby's ascendance, there's an argument that Luka is closer to the 10th best player than the 1st.

Playing devil's advocate a little. Obviously this trade sucks.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, runthebone said:

Not a Mavs fan, but the word "generational" is being vastly overused in sports media.  Generational is once every 20 years. 

you could argue a lot of franchises in the league have their best, 2nd/3rd best players on their current roster despite being in existence for 30-60 years, no? 

Posted
7 minutes ago, runthebone said:

Not a Mavs fan, but the word "generational" is being vastly overused in sports media.  Generational is once every 20 years. 

Well, they were only 15 years apart, but…

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No, Luka’s defense isn’t as good as young LeBron’s, but he wasn’t putting up these stats as empty calories on bad teams. Already two western conference finals appearances and one finals appearance. 

You guys are too caught up in the “he doesn’t play defense” talking point if you are underplaying Luka’s value right now as a 25 year old superstar. 

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Posted (edited)
22 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Gotta love the Spurs fan coming in talking about Kawhi as if we give a fuck. Leonard isn’t in in Luka’s stratosphere and never was. He also wanted out of SA. Quit trying to contrive up comparisons to talk about the Spurs. Apples and oranges. 

Shut the fuck up. At least we have a future super star to build around and something to look forward to. Who is Dallas going to build around? Kyrie? Anthony Davis? Won't be long until y'all are back in the gutter before Luka came along. Good luck. 😉

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Posted
Just now, Chad said:

Shut the fuck up. At least we have a future super star to build around and something to look forward to. Who is Dallas going to build around? Kyrie? Anthony Davis? Won't be long to y'all are back in the gutter before Luka came along. Good luck. 😉

No shit why do you think we are upset?

Posted
3 minutes ago, Chad said:

Shut the fuck up. At least we have a future super star to build around and something to look forward to. Who is Dallas going to build around? Kyrie? Anthony Davis? Won't be long until y'all are back in the gutter before Luka came along. Good luck. 😉


thanks for chiming in. Let’s all just start talking about random trades. 
 

Anyone else remember in 1999 when the Blackhawks traded Chris Chelios to the Red Wings? Wow that was crazy. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, Chad said:

Shut the fuck up. At least we have a future super star to build around and something to look forward to. Who is Dallas going to build around? Kyrie? Anthony Davis? Won't be long until y'all are back in the gutter before Luka came along. Good luck. 😉

yes we know you won the Sandro Mamukelshvili sweepstakes. dont need to announce it to us

Posted
7 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:


thanks for chiming in. Let’s all just start talking about random trades. 
 

Anyone else remember in 1999 when the Blackhawks traded Chris Chelios to the Red Wings? Wow that was crazy. 

Just repaying the favor for all the shit Mavs fans talked after the Spurs were forced to unload Kawhi. Now y'all are gonna be wandering the NBA wastelands for the foreseeable future. The Mavs will be good enough for a couple one and dones before returning to where they were the first year of Luka and several years before his arrival.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Chad said:

Just repaying the favor for all the shit Mavs fans talked after the Spurs were forced to unload Kawhi. Now y'all are gonna be wandering the NBA wastelands for the foreseeable future. The Mavs will be good enough for a couple one and dones before returning to where they were the first year of Luka and several years before his arrival.


kewl

Posted
4 minutes ago, Chad said:

Just repaying the favor for all the shit Mavs fans talked after the Spurs were forced to unload Kawhi. Now y'all are gonna be wandering the NBA wastelands for the foreseeable future. The Mavs will be good enough for a couple one and dones before returning to where they were the first year of Luka and several years before his arrival.

This is commonly referred to as bitchassness

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Posted
31 minutes ago, Chad said:

I'm well aware that Kawhi forced his way out while Luka was traded in one of the dumbest decisions ever.....the circumstances were drastically different. However both players were franchise cornerstones.  Kawhi was gonna be the next guy for the Spurs he won a finals mvp and appeared destined for big things. To have that traded away for peanuts sucked, especially watching him win a championship in his lone year in Toronto as a rental. Luka was the cornerstone for Dallas, the guy they were building around. Anthony Davis isn't gonna do much or a late first rounder.

I’m trying to think who else was on those spurs teams

Posted
6 minutes ago, Chad said:

Just repaying the favor for all the shit Mavs fans talked after the Spurs were forced to unload Kawhi. Now y'all are gonna be wandering the NBA wastelands for the foreseeable future. The Mavs will be good enough for a couple one and dones before returning to where they were the first year of Luka and several years before his arrival.

Oh is that what you were doing?  Could have fooled me. 
 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Okay poochie.

They're a bunch of butt hurt little bitches now, just wait till a few years from now when they're winning 30 games a year again.

Posted
1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

Everyone knows AD doesn’t improve this team’s chances of winning anything.  This is all a bunch of bullshit and a huge fuck you to the fan base. This cunt and her spawn don’t give a shit about the city of Dallas or the team or its fan base. 
 

fuck Cuban for selling to her. 

this pretty much sums it up

cuban owes this town a public apology and a public excoriation of the adelsons

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Posted
Ok how about this. It’s all an elaborate ruse to fleece AD from the Lakers and Luka signs with Dallas in the offseason. 
That's what Avs fans are telling ourselves about Mikko.
Posted
32 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Kawhi has actually won shit in his career. 

Luka's 25. He's a 5x all star, 5x first team all NBA, 5 time top 8 MVP vote getter. For comparison, kawhi didn't become an all star for the first time til he was 24. At the age of 33 kawhi STILL isn't 5x first team all nba. 

 

The first time Luka became an all star and was voted first team NBA he was 20.  At 20 kawhi didn't even see the podium in rookie of the year voting. 

 

And that's only considering the talent level of the players. 

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I like Luka as much as anyone.  Hes great but some of yall are really over hyping him

Spurs fan/Lakers hater here: AD is really good, but hes a number 2. Hes the guy that spreads the court, plays good defense, gets rebounds, etc. Hes a legit all star and hall of famer.

Luka scared the shit out of me. He can beat anyone. Great defense on him. Fuck you, circus shot off one leg. Now that hes a Laker, im apoplectic. Hes a better James Harden.
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1 minute ago, gsoda3 said:

Luka's 25. He's a 5x all star, 5x first team all NBA, 5 time top 8 MVP vote getter. For comparison, kawhi didn't become an all star for the first time til he was 24. At the age of 33 kawhi STILL isn't 5x first team all nba. 

 

The first time Luka became an all star and was voted first team NBA he was 20.  At 20 kawhi didn't even see the podium in rookie of the year voting. 

 

And that's only considering the talent level of the players. 

Kawhi still has two titles you dweeb.

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5 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

Luka's 25. He's a 5x all star, 5x first team all NBA, 5 time top 8 MVP vote getter. For comparison, kawhi didn't become an all star for the first time til he was 24. At the age of 33 kawhi STILL isn't 5x first team all nba. 

 

The first time Luka became an all star and was voted first team NBA he was 20.  At 20 kawhi didn't even see the podium in rookie of the year voting. 

 

And that's only considering the talent level of the players. 

Yes, no shit Kawhi was a late bloomer and a developmental prospect picked outside of the lottery not a fucking top 3 pick so there's your explanation. Nobody is arguing Luka showed out at a younger age. Luka has a superior offensive game, Kawhi was more of a balanced player. Luka won a scoring title, Kawhi won 2 defensive player of the year awards. Neither has been an NBA MVP, nobody gives a fuck where who finished in the voting if they didn't win it. Luka hasn't won it and there are plenty of flashy up and comers on the landscape so like Kawhi he may very well never win one, either.

Posted
1 hour ago, runthebone said:

Not a Mavs fan, but the word "generational" is being vastly overused in sports media.  Generational is once every 20 years. 

Yea generational means Luka

1 hour ago, Chad said:

Shut the fuck up. At least we have a future super star to build around and something to look forward to. Who is Dallas going to build around? Kyrie? Anthony Davis? Won't be long until y'all are back in the gutter before Luka came along. Good luck. 😉

Fuck you 

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The Lakers should casually float the idea that they might be willing to trade Luka to the highest bidder if the price is right, and wreck all the NBA insider heads. It would be glorious. 

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