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Posted
8 minutes ago, Chili dog said:

I hope that team is the disaster I expect them to be. I’m thinking 6-7 again. 

Would be nice for them to do to LSU what they did to Alabama, given LSU's light schedule

As long as they lose all the rest

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Just now, BurgleBro said:

Would be nice for them to do to LSU what they did to Alabama, given LSU's light schedule

As long as they lose all the rest

I’d rather they lost every game. 

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Posted
13 minutes ago, statsman said:

Seriously- Fasusi was in ice one week ago, and then hooked up to IVs. Is he practicing? What is the standard of care, post heat episode?

"Put some tusin' on it!"

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Posted
22 minutes ago, statsman said:

Seriously- Fasusi was in ice one week ago, and then hooked up to IVs. Is he practicing? What is the standard of care, post heat episode?

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Posted
53 minutes ago, Chili dog said:

I hope that team is the disaster I expect them to be. I’m thinking 6-7 again. 

Doubt that.  They will win 8 or 9.  The delta in QB play is significant.  They do lack talent to be a real threat and their talent is only getting worse due to their poorness.

Posted
50 minutes ago, statsman said:

Seriously- Fasusi was in ice one week ago, and then hooked up to IVs. Is he practicing? What is the standard of care, post heat episode?

 

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Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Doubt that.  They will win 8 or 9.  The delta in QB play is significant.  They do lack talent to be a real threat and their talent is only getting worse due to their poorness.

Texas (in Dallas)

@ South Carolina

@ Tennessee

@ Bama

LSU, Missouri, Ole Miss, Michigan, Auburn at home

Tough schedule to avoid 5 losses if things do not come together. 

I see at least 3 losses away from home, so you're already at 9-3, and i would be shocked, SHOCKED, if they swept those 5 teams at home to avoid a 4th loss or 5th loss. 

They're not healthy and they lack talent. 

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Posted
9 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Doubt that.  They will win 8 or 9.  The delta in QB play is significant.  They do lack talent to be a real threat and their talent is only getting worse due to their poorness.

The problem for them is that, even if the QB is a big step up in talent, that's all they have on offense unless Ott is in 2023 form. The WR and TE rooms are absolute dogshit. Mateer had better WRs to work with last year. Seriously, look it up. With them benching Ott, and look, we all know Murray is capable of ruining a season for someone out of damned near mere spite alone, they have nothing at RB to really plan around when you face them. They've convinced themselves that their shitty OL from last year, the worst in P4, is somehow going to be better because ... they're all back. We were in that spot for 13 years. 

Depth is shit as well. I have tried to convince myself that they're better than folks might think and I can't get there. 8-4 is their absolute ceiling and that includes injury luck, which they already aren't having. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

The problem for them is that, even if the QB is a big step up in talent, that's all they have on offense unless Ott is in 2023 form. The WR and TE rooms are absolute dogshit. Mateer had better WRs to work with last year. Seriously, look it up. With them benching Ott, and look, we all know Murray is capable of ruining a season for someone out of damned near mere spite alone, they have nothing at RB to really plan around when you face them. They've convinced themselves that their shitty OL from last year, the worst in P4, is somehow going to be better because ... they're all back. We were in that spot for 13 years. 

Depth is shit as well. I have tried to convince myself that they're better than folks might think and I can't get there. 8-4 is their absolute ceiling and that includes injury luck, which they already aren't having. 

That sounds good to me.  I was assuming their WRs would come back at some point.  I think the O/U on wins probably should be 7.5.  Michigan is a mess right now.  Auburn is a mess right now.  If they lose either of those, 7 wins is probably their ceiling.

Posted
5 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

The problem for them is that, even if the QB is a big step up in talent, that's all they have on offense unless Ott is in 2023 form. The WR and TE rooms are absolute dogshit. Mateer had better WRs to work with last year. Seriously, look it up. With them benching Ott, and look, we all know Murray is capable of ruining a season for someone out of damned near mere spite alone, they have nothing at RB to really plan around when you face them. They've convinced themselves that their shitty OL from last year, the worst in P4, is somehow going to be better because ... they're all back. We were in that spot for 13 years. 

Depth is shit as well. I have tried to convince myself that they're better than folks might think and I can't get there. 8-4 is their absolute ceiling and that includes injury luck, which they already aren't having. 

9-3 with that schedule and their issues in talent, depth and injuries is borderline impossible.  Hell, if they managed it, give BV SEC COY, because damn. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Frank Drebin said:

That sounds good to me.  I was assuming their WRs would come back at some point.  I think the O/U on wins probably should be 7.5.  Michigan is a mess right now.  Auburn is a mess right now.  If they lose either of those, 7 wins is probably their ceiling.

The total as of yesterday is 6.5. 

Some of the injured players will surely come back, but what you have to remember is that Venables runs full contact practices all year. He's going to get guys hurt based on that alone. They had like 5 serious injuries in the spring. How many did we have? I feel like maybe 1 or 2. Maybe that makes them tougher, I don't know. It didn't last year. 

I don't agree about Michigan, either. Yes, they'll be starting a true freshman at QB. Yes, that probably leads to a few losses on its own even if the dude is as good as advertised. However, they bring back most of their OL, which was good by season's end. They bring back a good HBack, they portaled in Justice Haynes from Bama as well. They have dogshit at WR but highly ranked guys at TE. Defensively, Will Johnson quit on them shortly after the Texas game last year. They lost their NFL DTs and a DE. They return almost everyone else who started on defense from midseason on, and they get back Rod Moore from injury. Moore was an AA candidate for 2024 after his 2023 season. 

I expect the Michigan game to be a rock fight. Maybe OU picks that one up, but it's no gimme.

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Posted (edited)
27 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

Michigan is a mess right now. 

I don't know if they have the right coach or a QB worth a shit but by all accounts Michigan is shoving money down kid's throats right now. 

They had an "off" year last year and still wound up being pretty fucking salty. I think in the current landscape it's going to be hard for them to not be one of the best 20 or 30 teams in the country every season. Meanwhile it seems like it is fairly easy for this current OU regime to field teams significantly worse than that. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, closetojumping said:

In catching up on the sooner thoughts regarding the depth chart, Ott at the 3rd RB spot is really polarizing. Guys are saying he's getting paid $800k and has been bragging about that in the locker room, that he's had a bad attitude and hasn't put the work in at practice. Some guys are using the move to rationalize that this is finally going to be Barnes' big year. It's all just outstanding. 

Venables indirectly shit talked Ott and several other guys on his call-in show, stating that "the best ability is availability" and they weren't just going to trot guys out for games who aren't able to push themselves in practices. This shit is great. 

$800k-ish is the number I heard on the Cal side re: OU.  Cal was going to overpay him at close to $1M because of the brand recognition and legacy stuff.  They reinvested that money and brought in extra OL, ILB and Edge because they didnt pay Ott.  Good fucking investment I say

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Posted
1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

The total as of yesterday is 6.5. 

Some of the injured players will surely come back, but what you have to remember is that Venables runs full contact practices all year. He's going to get guys hurt based on that alone. They had like 5 serious injuries in the spring. How many did we have? I feel like maybe 1 or 2. Maybe that makes them tougher, I don't know. It didn't last year. 

I don't agree about Michigan, either. Yes, they'll be starting a true freshman at QB. Yes, that probably leads to a few losses on its own even if the dude is as good as advertised. However, they bring back most of their OL, which was good by season's end. They bring back a good HBack, they portaled in Justice Haynes from Bama as well. They have dogshit at WR but highly ranked guys at TE. Defensively, Will Johnson quit on them shortly after the Texas game last year. They lost their NFL DTs and a DE. They return almost everyone else who started on defense from midseason on, and they get back Rod Moore from injury. Moore was an AA candidate for 2024 after his 2023 season. 

I expect the Michigan game to be a rock fight. Maybe OU picks that one up, but it's no gimme.

I don't think it makes players tougher. I've never seen proof of that, only opinions. It definitely takes a toll on the body. Either they get injured or their bodies are worn out by the end of the season, or both.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Hard Times said:

I don't think it makes players tougher. I've never seen proof of that, only opinions. It definitely takes a toll on the body. Either they get injured or their bodies are worn out by the end of the season, or both.

Why did Ott come to OU for $200K less than Cal offered him to stay? 

Posted
2 minutes ago, statsman said:

Why did Ott come to OU for $200K less than Cal offered him to stay? 

Hell if I know. The only thing I know about him is he's a RB from Cal and he's had some pre-season injury issues.

Posted
18 minutes ago, statsman said:

Why did Ott come to OU for $200K less than Cal offered him to stay? 

Cal is like the rich, intelligent big brother to Auburn. They are both wildly dysfunctional as institutions when it comes to sports and, specifically, football. Cal has Justin Wilcox as their HC. He consistently gets bowl-invite quality outcomes from his teams, especially on defense. Meanwhile, he's underpaid, he has little help for his staff, his facilities suck, their NIL sucked until lately, etc., etc. What does he get as a reward for keeping Cal competitive in spite of all of that? They bring in NFL numbnuts Ron Rivera to be his boss and meddle in shit. That dude is a fucking clown. 

Wilcox shuffled his staff around after last season and hired Harsin as his new OC. A bunch of offensive guys that went through the spring bailed afterwards, so something happened there with Harsin. Ott was one of the guys who left. Given everything around Cal's general football dysfunction, maybe the OU offer looked like a deal. 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, GabrielsHorn said:

Inject this into my veins

 

He just needs another four years for it all to come together!

Already trying to scrounge up momentum as to why he shouldn't get fired after a disappointing 7-5-type of season.

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