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4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

But it may be a good tactic situationally.

I am not saying we become a bunting team, but thats one thing Augie made damn sure that every, single, starter knew how to put down a bunt in the warm up first 4 weeks of the season.  there were numerous times he sent a .400 hitter up with 1 or 2 on early in a game and told them to bunt.  and if they failed, he would keep telling them to bunt until they laid one down corretly. 

he knew there was going to be a point in June that they needed to move two guys on first and second ahead 90 feet, and he made damn sure everyone from his boom-sticker to his base stealing specialist all fucking knew how to lay down a semi-respectable bunt. 

instead we got 

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Jeff. Jalin... same same...   

trying to do something other than be an 90% guaranteed out. (and 8 of the other 10% being him getting a walk)

only to fail in such spectacular fashion, that if the Meep Meep pitcher had a fucking brain, he would have dropped the free pop up bunt on the ground and done a double or triple play by dropping it throwing to 3rd, and hope they ran the wheel around to first.... with Jalin half assing it to first after he thought he was out on a pop bunt. 

that comes from not having some fucking experience earlier in the season putting down a bunt 

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6 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Why on the bolded? Outside of homeruns we absolutely suck at hitting as a whole. Same issues across two different HC's with him.

 

Weiner can be explained by injuries and lack of arm talent as a whole. But given our recruiting class and the work we're about to do in the portal I think overall we will be much better pitching staff moving forward.

Look what Tulo had to work with. Talent wise there wasn’t much there for him, and it’s easy to see which guys wouldn’t sniff the middle to top end of rosters in the SEC. Winfield turned out to be a dud and Rodriguez was doing pretty good till he hurt his hand—still did well in towards the end all things considered. 4ish guys in the lineup were somewhat consistent with the rest being in and out of the lineup or a black hole. And while Flores regressed from last year, guys like Galvan and Kimble improved. At least Weiner got an ace and Ruger out of the portal, and freshmen of the year in the SEC. 

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37 minutes ago, Levi said:

Look what Tulo had to work with. Talent wise there wasn’t much there for him, and it’s easy to see which guys wouldn’t sniff the middle to top end of rosters in the SEC. Winfield turned out to be a dud and Rodriguez was doing pretty good till he hurt his hand—still did well in towards the end all things considered. 4ish guys in the lineup were somewhat consistent with the rest being in and out of the lineup or a black hole. And while Flores regressed from last year, guys like Galvan and Kimble improved. At least Weiner got an ace and Ruger out of the portal, and freshmen of the year in the SEC. 

Would you say we have more talent than UTSA? 

Posted
23 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Would you say we have more talent than UTSA? 

For the most part but that doesn’t mean you should completely discount what UTSA was able to do. It was a complete failure in all phases. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Levi said:

For the most part but that doesn’t mean you should completely discount what UTSA was able to do. It was a complete failure in all phases. 

I didn’t discount that. I made it a round about point that they outhit us because their approaches at the plate from 1-9 is far superior than ours with more talent. 

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19 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I didn’t discount that. I made it a round about point that they outhit us because their approaches at the plate from 1-9 is far superior than ours with more talent. 

The staff also couldn’t stop throwing cock-shots or hitting them. Base running was atrocious. Fielding was also bad. Schloss even got out coached in certain points. The point is the talent in the lineup was also not fielding, pitching or running the bases well either. You can’t just be hyper focused on one facet of the game when the collapse post Aggie was in all phases. 

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UTSA was just more sound defensively and fundamentally. They made more 50/50 plays than Texas did. Plays that when it’s all said and done don’t go down as errors if you don’t make them but change the game if you do.

Flores was on the shit end of several of those on Saturday night. Galvan trying to get back and tag on the ball Kimble hit to right center when there was no reason too. Texas overall had more baserunners than UTSA, just didn’t make the plays when it mattered most.

Schloss’ unwillingness to move Flores and Gasparino down the order, or at the very least separate them, until it was too late, hurt this team mightily down the stretch.

Posted
5 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Nah. Just a brain. And I’m not a petulant turd

Dude. You’re missing it. No one is worried about CDC, Schloss or their affinity to hang out with each other at cemeteries in the middle of the day 

Posted
4 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

Gus and Augie were successful two decades ago and four decades ago. The game has changed.

There is a place for the occasional bunt but the Augie/Gus small ball is not a good strategy for scoring runs regularly 

Bullshit

It is still fucking baseball.

If the first two guys get on you should bunt every time no matter who is at the plate.

It worked back then and works now.

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Bullshit

It is still fucking baseball.

If the first two guys get on you should bunt every time no matter who is at the plate.

It worked back then and works now.

You can say that but all of the data says otherwise.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, zlavydra said:

It's a losing battle. People are still judging power hitters based on batting average, etc.

I’m not even anti bunting. I think there’s still at least something to be said about putting pressure on the defense, especially in college, but the Augie/Gus style of small ball is long gone and should be. It simply generates fewer runs.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

I’m not even anti bunting. I think there’s still at least something to be said about putting pressure on the defense, especially in college, but the Augie/Gus style of small ball is long gone and should be. It simply generates fewer runs.

Have an upvote for knowing the difference between "less" and "fewer."

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I hope we spend the whole offseason running the whole mustache thing into the ground. It’s really awesome

 

What else are we supposed to do? Watch football?

Posted
14 hours ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Bullshit

It is still fucking baseball.

If the first two guys get on you should bunt every time no matter who is at the plate.

It worked back then and works now.

Data says otherwise. The odds of scoring multiple runs in an inning are greater with 1st and 2nd no one out than 2nd & 3rd with 1 out.  Facts don’t care about your feelings.

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Posted

Did Augie play small ball during the regular season or get more conservative during must win postseason games?

I recall him playing small ball regularly in our postseason games and putting a lot of pressure on our opponents early in games.

Posted
10 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

Did Augie play small ball during the regular season or get more conservative during must win postseason games?

I recall him playing small ball regularly in our postseason games and putting a lot of pressure on our opponents early in games.

My recollection is that he used small ball pretty selectively, when we needed to manufacture a run, and also sometimes as a psychological thing with a particular player, e.g. boost them in a slump, give them a dose of humility.

I think you are probably right that there was a tad more small ball in the post-season, because runs could be harder to come by.

Posted
15 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

Did Augie play small ball during the regular season or get more conservative during must win postseason games?

I recall him playing small ball regularly in our postseason games and putting a lot of pressure on our opponents early in games.

 

2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

My recollection is that he used small ball pretty selectively, when we needed to manufacture a run, and also sometimes as a psychological thing with a particular player, e.g. boost them in a slump, give them a dose of humility.

I think you are probably right that there was a tad more small ball in the post-season, because runs could be harder to come by.

Not selective at all. If we got the leadoff man on, we bunted him over 99% of the time.

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Hookem10 said:

Small ball only works when pitching staff is really good and can consistently throw up zeros. Our pitching staff as good as it was, was not that 

And when you can depend on the next hitter to make hard contact, or at least manage a 300-foot Anticout.

Posted
4 minutes ago, zlavydra said:

And when you can depend on the next hitter to make hard contact, or at least manage a 300-foot Anticout.

This is the biggest reason small ball wouldn’t have worked well for us this year. We had far too many strikeouts and routine pop ups. I like some small ball in college to put pressure on the defense to make plays, but you have to follow it up with base hits or well placed ground balls

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45 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

 

Not selective at all. If we got the leadoff man on, we bunted him over 99% of the time.

Yeah for awhile we held several NCAA sacrifice hit records until UC Irvine broke most of them. I think we still hold the record for most sacrifice hits in a single game from the 2009 Super Regional against TCU (the good Super Regional against TCU, not the disaster of the following season).

The moneyball fans would be losing their minds in game threads all season "the analytics say you score more with a runner on first and nobody out!!111"

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Trying to compare the style Augie played to today is pretty useless because this era of baseball is completely different. Different bats, balls, fences have been moved in at the Disch, etc.

The 2005 national title team hit 56 homers in 72 games. We had 112 in 60 games last year and 85 in 58 games this year. Hell, the 2011 Omaha team hit 17 home runs the whole damn season after they changed the bats. 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Trying to compare the style Augie played to today is pretty useless because this era of baseball is completely different. Different bats, balls, fences have been moved in at the Disch, etc.

The 2005 national title team hit 56 homers in 72 games. We had 112 in 60 games last year and 85 in 58 games this year. Hell, the 2011 Omaha team hit 17 home runs the whole damn season after they changed the bats. 

What were amounts of home runs during Augie era?

Posted
7 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

What were amounts of home runs during Augie era?

More importantly, what were the amount of wins?

I am not talking about playing small so much as moving runners over when appropriate.

I will take second and third all day with one out.

Posted
17 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Hell, the 2011 Omaha team hit 17 home runs the whole damn season after they changed the bats. 

That team was truly a bunch of hitless wonders. Just a terrible offensive team with a god-tier pitching staff.

Then in 2012 and 2013 we remained terrible at offense and the pitching was also bad.

2005 was a good hitting team at what they did.  They get on base, get bunted over, and then bring them home. They were a small ball machine. And had great pitching as well.

Posted
14 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

What were amounts of home runs during Augie era?

The most home runs we ever hit in a season under Augie was 81 in the 2010 season. The best Texas team that failed to make it to Omaha.

Posted
1 hour ago, zlavydra said:

And when you can depend on the next hitter to make hard contact, or at least manage a 300-foot Anticout.

speaking of he's hitting .323 for AAA Memphis, affiliate of the Cardinals.

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