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23 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

Um. No.. Pocket Awareness is one of Arch's strengths. It is more his processing speed and accuracy that will cause problems. He takes a lot of sacks because he is determined to stick in the pocket and get a throw off because it takes him too long to see the open guy. He is awesome at sliding in the pocket and avoiding the first rusher. Quinn looked like a giraffe on rollerskates when a free rusher came at him. 

Arch's PFF grade under pressure is something like 64.  Which means he's better under pressure than the average QB is in general.

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1 hour ago, I Plead Da Fif said:

The grass is always greener when it comes to Texas backup QBs don’t ya know!

After seeing this phenomenon play out since the calls for Shannon Kelly over Brett Stafford I have concluded that it is a psychological defense mechanism of thinking that there is a quick and easy fix (just sub out the starter for the guy on the bench!) rather than facing the hard reality that you probably need to stack up 3-4 great recruiting classes to make meaningful change in results. 

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Thursday - Bobby

Big Notes

  • Sark also relayed that Manning practiced on Wednesday which means he is progressing through the concussion protocol timeline cleanly.
  • We also know that Taaffe practiced in a green jersey on Tuesday and Hutson is attempting to return for the Vandy game. Perhaps Texas could get all three starters to return in time for this weekend.
Spoiler

Thursday

 

Bobby Burton

By Bobby Burton

  • 4 hours ago
 

Rather than labeling Arch Manning, Michael Taaffe and Cole Hutson as “doubtful” or “out”, Sark chose to go the same route with all of them - “questionable”.

The designation leaves all of us guessing. Including the Vanderbilt staff.

Sark also relayed that Manning practiced on Wednesday which means he is progressing through the concussion protocol timeline cleanly.

Theoretically, Manning could return to full padded practice today, if his symptoms do not reoccur.

We also know that Taaffe practiced in a green jersey on Tuesday and Hutson is attempting to return for the Vandy game.

Perhaps Texas could get all three starters to return in time for this weekend.

It seems unlikely, but this is a big game for the Horns and Texas has an additional week off next week for players to recover if need be.

If you had asked me 48 hours ago, I would have put the odds of both Manning and Taaffe playing against Vandy at less than 10-percent. That number is up to 50 for me this morning.

**

This is an absolute must-win game for the Horns.

If Texas can beat Vandy and enter the bye week 7-2, every post-season opportunity remains on the table.

Then it’ll come down to grit, execution and a little bit of the ball bouncing the right way the rest of the season.

But they have to get to the bye week unscathed first. Texas can not let its guard down on Saturday, not one iota.

**

As we look at this Texas team, it really is shaping up to be a squad that improves and finds itself as we get later into the season.

Texas is winning tough games in a variety of ways, they’re learning what it takes to prevail on the road in a tough conference, and they’re doing it even though they’re not exactly executing at a high level (at least not on offense) on every possession.

The circuitous route they’ve taken to get to this point shows us just how much meat is left on the bone for their improvement.

Bottom line: we don’t know what the next four games will look like for Texas, be it good, bad or somewhere in between. That’s part of the mystery of this team.

But I can’t shake the feeling that they’ve still got more to show us.

Hook’Em!

 

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25 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

 

1) I doubt that Arch plays this week.

2) This is good news to add to Vanderbilt’s list of things to spend practice time on this week.

3) We have a new poster on the previous page who is as annoying and dim-witted as his TV namesake.

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Posted
6 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said:

Yes, I got corrected that we went from two plays of proof, that it was actually only one.

So basically people who think Caldwell > Arch are literally twice as stupid as I thought, and are mad about it. Congrats!

Doubling down on stupid. Hard to watch.

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12 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

The Caldwell confidence against a top ten team is wild

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But he has two great passes! One of them he went through progressions! And EXPERIENCE!!! He must be better than Arch!

Jokes aside, I hope he plays well and Texas gets the win. And if he has a bad game? All good, because I can see he's a QB given unfair expectations, with very little experience and is simply trying his best. Kinda like the starting QB.

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12 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

The Caldwell confidence against a top ten team is wild

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A tOp TeN TeAm

Vanderbilt is ass my dude. Our talent edge is insane. They have beaten almost nobody of consequence. They are a cute little team with a scrappy QB, but let's be real, if we play our game, this is a W. 

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6 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

A tOp TeN TeAm

Vanderbilt is ass my dude. Our talent edge is insane. They have beaten almost nobody of consequence. They are a cute little team with a scrappy QB, but let's be real, if we play our game, this is a W. 

They are definitely over ranked, but still a solid squad. They have earned their overranking so far.

And yes Texas is by far more talented. But they haven't yet earned confidence in anyone that they can play up to that talent level.

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Posted
12 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

A tOp TeN TeAm

Vanderbilt is ass my dude. Our talent edge is insane. They have beaten almost nobody of consequence. They are a cute little team with a scrappy QB, but let's be real, if we play our game, this is a W. 

Running QBs have historically been kryptonite for our defense 

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Posted
Just now, ChickenSandwich said:

Running QBs have historically been kryptonite for our defense 

So true, I remember when Mateer, Pavia, and Reed assfucked us this year and last year. 

6 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

They are definitely over ranked, but still a solid squad. They have earned their overranking so far.

And yes Texas is by far more talented. But they haven't yet earned confidence in anyone that they can play up to that talent level.

We play to the level of our opponents, period. Every game will be close from now till the end of the season. Nobody is blowing us out. That includes UGA on the road. 

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27 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

The Caldwell confidence against a top ten team is wild

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I don’t see anything wild as far as Caldwell predictions. A whole lot of “This guy could actually be a good game manager and hit some checkdowns and screens with consistency. Maybe a crossing route in stride. ” Though that would be wild for our offense this season I guess. 

2 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Running QBs have historically been kryptonite for our defense 

How far back you going? Because it wasn’t last year.

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rofl there's literally a thread titled "caldwell should start" full of people both crapping on arch and trying to convince themselves and others the team would be better off benching arch for caldwell, yet people claim there's supposedly nothing "wild" about caldwell predictions lolololol

7 minutes ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

So true, I remember when Mateer, Pavia, and Reed assfucked us this year and last year. 

We play to the level of our opponents, period. Every game will be close from now till the end of the season. Nobody is blowing us out. That includes UGA on the road. 

I don't think you're wrong at all. I just understand peoples apprehension a bit. 

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1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said:

rofl there's literally a thread titled "caldwell should start" full of people both crapping on arch and trying to convince themselves and others the team would be better off benching arch for caldwell, yet people claim there's supposedly nothing "wild" about caldwell predictions lolololol

The "Caldwell should starts" thread is semi-ironic. Basically, one is started every time there's a new backup. If Caldwell does start Saturday, undoubtedly there will be a "Lacey should starts" thread created forthwith.

You might know this if you read the board for a little while before spewing diarrhea all over the place. Less is sometimes more. I don't expect you to understand this, unfortunately. 

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Posted

There also aren’t any over the top predictions in that thread about his performance against Vandy. I think expectations are appropriately tempered. Lolololol

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Blackcat00 said:

Pavia has been ass on the road. This will be the best defense he has faced all year. 

This will only be the best defense he has faced all year if Taaffe plays. We all saw what happened last week.

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5 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

 The Florida play had multiple options and Wingo was his third read.  

 

Not sure if this is true.  Given the situation, the pass had to either be incomplete or caught by the sidelines. He couldn't throw it to the middle as a caught pass would have let Florida take a whole bunch of time off when we put Arch back in.   We also couldn't take a sack. If Sark didn't call a quick one read pass then it shows awful situational awareness.  Caldwell looked like he knew exactly where it was going.

 

If Arch can't play, I hope Caldwell crushes it. If Arch can play, he is qb1 and our best chance to win.   Caldwell is a backup for a reason.

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14 minutes ago, SimkinsMan said:

The "Caldwell should starts" thread is semi-ironic. Basically, one is started every time there's a new backup. If Caldwell does start Saturday, undoubtedly there will be a "Lacey should starts" thread created forthwith.

You might know this if you read the board for a little while before spewing diarrhea all over the place. Less is sometimes more. I don't expect you to understand this, unfortunately. 

Yes I'm aware, I've been lurking for years.  There are many who post that crap 100% serious too. It's not hard to see who those are.

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Texas 27-24 Vanderbilt (Oct 26, 2024) Box Score - ESPN

 

May want to revisit the stats from last year's game (27-24).   Likely they have improved more than we.   

Pavia was 16/67 rushing with a long of 18.    We led 21-10 at the half and scored 6 points in the second.  104 yards rushing which includes -20 by Ewers.  Vanderbilt is a very physical team.   I think we win but will be challenged.

 

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Just now, torre said:

Texas 27-24 Vanderbilt (Oct 26, 2024) Box Score - ESPN

 

May want to revisit the stats from last year's game (27-24).   Likely they have improved more than we.   

Pavia was 16/67 rushing with a long of 18.    We led 21-10 at the half and scored 6 points in the second.  104 yards rushing which includes -20 by Ewers.  Vanderbilt is a very physical team.   I think we win but will be challenged.

 

They also scored a TD with 46 seconds left and we had a pick six called back

I don't count garbage TDs, they scored 17 points when it mattered.  Texas was up 10 with under a minute left

Yes, we scored 6 points in the 2nd half.  Vanderbilt scored a TD in the 3rd and a garbage time score in the 4th

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Posted (edited)
19 minutes ago, Hornsome said:

Not sure if this is true.  Given the situation, the pass had to either be incomplete or caught by the sidelines. He couldn't throw it to the middle as a caught pass would have let Florida take a whole bunch of time off when we put Arch back in.   We also couldn't take a sack. If Sark didn't call a quick one read pass then it shows awful situational awareness.  Caldwell looked like he knew exactly where it was going.

 

If Arch can't play, I hope Caldwell crushes it. If Arch can play, he is qb1 and our best chance to win.   Caldwell is a backup for a reason.

Well it's true if you just watch the play. He clearly looks to two reads before progressing to Wingo.

The playcall was interesting because of what you mention but Wingo was hit on an in-breaking route near the hash, so it's not like the explanation of having to hit on the sidelines proves it was a single read.

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33 minutes ago, torre said:

Texas 27-24 Vanderbilt (Oct 26, 2024) Box Score - ESPN

 

May want to revisit the stats from last year's game (27-24).   Likely they have improved more than we.   

Pavia was 16/67 rushing with a long of 18.    We led 21-10 at the half and scored 6 points in the second.  104 yards rushing which includes -20 by Ewers.  Vanderbilt is a very physical team.   I think we win but will be challenged.

 

Fun fact from last year, the game was never in doubt and we had a pick 6 wiped off the board in the final 2 minutes that wouldve made it a 3 score game before they went down the field on that same drive and made it 27-24 with a garbage time TD

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20 minutes ago, torre said:

Texas 27-24 Vanderbilt (Oct 26, 2024) Box Score - ESPN

 

May want to revisit the stats from last year's game (27-24).   Likely they have improved more than we.   

Pavia was 16/67 rushing with a long of 18.    We led 21-10 at the half and scored 6 points in the second.  104 yards rushing which includes -20 by Ewers.  Vanderbilt is a very physical team.   I think we win but will be challenged.

 

Texas outgained Vandy 392 to 269. Garbage TD at the end of the game. Vandy had 2 TD drives prior to that of 31 yards and 38 yards. Vandy was not successful with their usual efficient long drives and even lost TOP. Taaffe playing would be big to help with all the misdirection. 

Concerns: Vandy can get to the edge and Texas has been inconsistent, especially on the boundary. Texas has struggled with TEs, Vandy has a great one. Vanderbilt defense is not great, but they can cause havoc. That is not great with this OL, especially since you cannot anticipate Texas having any run success. 

 

 

 

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Posted
46 minutes ago, Hornsome said:

Not sure if this is true.  Given the situation, the pass had to either be incomplete or caught by the sidelines. He couldn't throw it to the middle as a caught pass would have let Florida take a whole bunch of time off when we put Arch back in.   We also couldn't take a sack. If Sark didn't call a quick one read pass then it shows awful situational awareness.  Caldwell looked like he knew exactly where it was going.

 

If Arch can't play, I hope Caldwell crushes it. If Arch can play, he is qb1 and our best chance to win.   Caldwell is a backup for a reason.

You don't know what you're looking at. He clearly went through progressions. Sark was looking to take a shot. 

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Posted

We’re gonna be fine. Every team has been ass my dude and we are the best defense everyone faced and we’ve fucking dominated so I expect us to continue that domination this weekend. 

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Posted
7 hours ago, ThatsGold said:

Pocket Awareness is Arch's kryptonite. Caldwell will look like Quinn on Saturday by comparison. He'll get the ball out quickly and get the ball to his playmakers. 

This is a textbook surly example of a really stupid post.

 

 

 

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The concern is not Vandy so much as the fact that we have just played arguably the two worst teams in the conference and gone to overtime with both of them. Vandy is at least a middle of the pack SEC team this year, so there is concern. Last year’s result against them doesn’t show a bad matchup for us, but remember we blew out Florida, UK, and MSU last year and this year . . . we did not. 

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2 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

There also aren’t any over the top predictions in that thread about his performance against Vandy. I think expectations are appropriately tempered. Lolololol

If the dude wants to be a hyperbolic, petulant dickhead, especially as a newer poster, I'll gladly keep matching him neg for neg and race him to the bottom.

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Just now, MuellerHorn said:

If the dude wants to be a hyperbolic, petulant dickhead, especially as a newer poster, I'll gladly keep matching him neg for neg and race him to the bottom.

Major Payne GIF

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5 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

The concern is not Vandy so much as the fact that we have just played arguably the two worst teams in the conference and gone to overtime with both of them. Vandy is at least a middle of the pack SEC team this year, so there is concern. Last year’s result against them doesn’t show a bad matchup for us, but remember we blew out Florida, UK, and MSU last year and this year . . . we did not. 

Which one of those was at home my guy 

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What might the Texas offense look like if Matthew Caldwell is QB1 against Vanderbilt? - Howe (OTF)

Spoiler

What might the Texas offense look like if Matthew Caldwell is QB1 against Vanderbilt?

 

Jeff Howe

By Jeff Howe

  • 2 hours ago
 
 

Whether Arch Manning is out of concussion protocol in time to start at quarterback for No. 20 Texas against No. 9 Vanderbilt at Royal-Texas Memorial Stadium on Saturday (11 a.m., ABC) or Matthew Caldwell makes his Forty Acres starting debut, don’t expect Steve Sarkisian’s offense to change much, if at all.

“We haven’t changed anything that we’ve done,” Sarkisian said on a Zoom call with reporters after Thursday’s practice. “Our system has been our system.”

It’s true that Sarkisian’s attack has looked largely the same, no matter which of the five quarterbacks he’s called upon to start in his tenure (Manning, Hudson Card, Casey Thompson, Quinn Ewers and Maalik Murphy) have run the show. Nevertheless, none of those quarterbacks operated the offense the same.

Manning, who practiced on Thursday but remains in concussion protocol, Sarkisian said, is making progress toward getting back on the field. If he can’t go, however, Sarkisian remains steadfast in his belief that Caldwell’s coaches and teammates “have the utmost confidence and respect” in the Troy transfer to get the job done.

Regarding how the offense will function with Caldwell at the controls, it’s to Sarkisian’s benefit to play coy and avoid revealing his hand to Clark Lea and the Commodores. Everybody outside the Moncrief Complex has a limited viewing sample of what Caldwell can do, Sarkisian said, “but he gives us a ton of confidence in the way that he practices every day, the way that he works.”

Between Caldwell’s 2023 season at FCS Gardner-Webb and what he did in five starts with the Trojans in 2024, there are two areas in which he could help Texas (6-2, 3-1 SEC) move the football through the air.

Five of Caldwell’s seven touchdown passes in 2023 came on pass attempts behind the line of scrimmage. Caldwell earned a 74.3 season-long grade from Pro Football Focus on those throws, going 43-for-47 for 250 yards, which is better than Manning’s 2025 grade on pass attempts behind the line of scrimmage of 70.2 (52-for-54 for 371 yards and no touchdowns). 

Caldwell had more success on intermediate throws (pass attempts 10-19 yards down the field) at Troy last season, recording a PFF grade of 85.7 (28-for-46 for 433 yards and seven touchdowns against three interceptions). Caldwell’s overtime touchdown pass to Emmett Mosley V in last week’s win over Mississippi State was an intermediate-range throw, a part of the field in which he’s 3-for-4 for 44 yards (a PFF grade of 86.8) and where Manning hasn’t been at his best this season (27-for-54 for 431 yards, two touchdowns and three interceptions).

Caldwell’s ability to execute screens and quick throws behind the line of scrimmage, along with the intermediate throws that Sarkisian’s play-calls can scheme open, can stabilize an offense that otherwise couldn’t lean on Manning extending the play with his legs, be a factor in the running game or hit chunk-yardage plays on deep balls (on 60 career pass attempts thrown 20 or more yards down the field, Caldwell has completed just 19, throwing two touchdowns against seven interceptions). The Longhorns shouldn’t be expected to run either quarterback much; Manning wouldn’t be asked to run more than necessary for obvious reasons and in addition to Caldwell fumbling seven times (48 official rushing attempts, including sacks) in 2024, his elevation to QB1 would put KJ Lacey one play away from the first meaningful action of his true freshman season.

The closest thing Texas has had to a recognizable identity on offense is when it relies on Manning’s athleticism to extend plays. Manning's legs have taken pressure off the offensive line and created explosive plays down the field.

Even if Caldwell can’t do those things, Sarkisian is confident in the offense putting a winning brand of football on the field with the well-traveled veteran at the wheel.

“The game plan is the game plan,” Sarkisian said. “I think all of his teammates have a ton of confidence in Matt if it’s his time to go.”

 

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6 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

Keep it up. We'll see how this act works out for you. Maybe keep calling people retards while you're at it.

unlike you im here simply for fun and some occasional longhorn chat when im bored with work, not for reputation

lol imagine someone getting so tilted they threaten people with negs. calm down already.

im not gonna bog this thread down any further with this stupid back and forth. I apologize to others for having already done so thus far.

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1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said:

unlike you im here simply for fun and some occasional longhorn chat when im bored with work, not for reputation

lol imagine someone getting so tilted they threaten people with negs

There's a loony extrapolation. I never said I cared about my rep - simply that I'd outlast you. 

Again, don't fucking call people retarded. 

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1 minute ago, MuellerHorn said:

There's a loony extrapolation. I never said I cared about my rep - simply that I'd outlast you. 

Again, don't fucking call people retarded. 

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goddamn right you don't

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1 hour ago, Codaxx said:

Texas outgained Vandy 392 to 269. Garbage TD at the end of the game. Vandy had 2 TD drives prior to that of 31 yards and 38 yards. Vandy was not successful with their usual efficient long drives and even lost TOP. Taaffe playing would be big to help with all the misdirection. 

Concerns: Vandy can get to the edge and Texas has been inconsistent, especially on the boundary. Texas has struggled with TEs, Vandy has a great one. Vanderbilt defense is not great, but they can cause havoc. That is not great with this OL, especially since you cannot anticipate Texas having any run success. 

 

I think the offense that Vandy runs is the kind of offense that PK is good at stopping. He really struggles with a Briles-style offense (like what Lebby runs at MSU), but the offenses that rely on ball control and being efficient, without a lot of danger of explosives are in his wheelhouse. That gives me some confidence about how our defense is going to match up with Vandy.

Our offense? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

11 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

If the dude wants to be a hyperbolic, petulant dickhead, especially as a newer poster, I'll gladly keep matching him neg for neg and race him to the bottom.

I'm down for a fatwa. Dude is aggressively stupid and has terrible banter. 

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Just now, Park Gothic said:

I think the offense that Vandy runs is the kind of offense that PK is good at stopping. He really struggles with a Briles-style offense (like what Lebby runs at MSU), but the offenses that rely on ball control and being efficient, without a lot of danger of explosives are in his wheelhouse. That gives me some confidence about how our defense is going to match up with Vandy.

Our offense? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm down for a fatwa. Dude is aggressively stupid and has terrible banter. 

Yes.. Lot of misdirection and for the most part the Texas defense is sound. They can throw out DT after DT. Wouldnt be surprised to see the 3 DT set with Simmons on the DL. 

The offense is scary. IF this season has proven anything, you cannot predict what the offense will look like from week to week. I think it is all about the OL and the game plan. 

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2 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

I'm down for a fatwa. Dude is aggressively stupid and has terrible banter. 

Really sensitive about it, too, apparently.

He's trying to go on a solo fatwa against me. 🤣 

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