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7 minutes ago, oldhorn2 said:

This is sad...ND doesn't belong in the top 20 let alone the top 10... When your seasons opponents are 61-65.. your record is meaningless

 

Taking out Miami and aggy to start the year and that drops to 40-62. But without ND the networks only have tOSU to draw eyeballs in that section of the US. 

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21 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Sarkisian went on the SEC morning show today and doubled down on both Texas deserving to be in the playoffs and reconsidering the OOC schedule going forward. He basically said, with the SEC going to 9 conference games, playing a major OOC foe is pointless with the way those losses are currently viewed. He took a number of thinly veiled potshots at the 2 loss teams ahead of Texas, with which I agreed.

I don't expect Texas to cancel the home games versus OSU and Michigan, since Texas has already played both on the road. I will be surprised if Texas does not cancel the Notre Dame series. Someone needs to take the step of deplatforming ND and giving them little recourse. They will continue to weasel their way into the CFP until conferences uniformly stop scheduling them. The ND schedule next season is the absolute worst joke in CFB heading into the 2026 cycle. It's fucking sickening. 

I hate the premise of the OOC being comprised of 3 cupcakes including the boring likes of Rutgers, Purdue, and Wake Forest but it feels like that's where this debacle is headed. Auerbach is being really optimistic about the committee. I don't expect bravery to come from a committee of admins and old coaches. 

on the money.  agree with the point on ND.  there is no reason to give them OOC games.  They can have their USC game and everyone else needs to stop. ND's basically guaranteed spot is hurting Big 12 and ACC also but they want to schedule them to raise SOS.  the most hostile environment they play in next year is at Wisconsin.

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The best way to do this is to ditch the committee and let Vegas pick the best 12 teams. They are 20x better than a bunch of retired coaches and ADs

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3 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

I get everyone wants us to get in. I get we want in.  But some people here sound as delusional as aggy.
 

I hate the argument some are making that   because other teams aren’t Texas that they must accept their MID status for eternity and their fans  don’t have the right to want to be better or to play in CFP’s or to politic to be in them. 
 

I want us to get in. But if we don’t it’s because our loss to Florida was after a bye week and never ever ever should have happened. ever. Not in year 5 of a top 5 NIL Sark led team that cost around $30 million. Period. If we don’t get in we all KNOW why. 
 

Take it up with sark who clearly wasn’t ready for our first SEC game, after a fucking BYE week, didn’t have the team ready, wasn’t engaged on the sidelines, made no real adjustments after the half and he legit keeps thinking 3 losses will some day be a thing soon for the CFP. I’m mad at him. But that doesn’t mean I don’t want to get in and win and see what we have. 
 

I wish people here would pummel Sark VERBALLY on this board and not each other. lol. 😂 

We’ve pummeled sark but what’s the point.  We can’t change shit

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I ignorantly thought that expanding the playoff would encourage better OOC matchups and give the fans a better product the first month of the season because teams would have more margin for error. Instead, it actually made it worse. Now you can game the system because it doesn't matter who you beat, it only matters how many losses you have. This has been the dumbest sport for the longest time, and with every postseason iteration change they seem to make it dumber. It was better when you woke up New Years Day and hoped that so and so lost in the Orange Bowl or the Rose Bowl and that you won the Cotton Bowl to determine who was number 1. 

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Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

This is a good idea

it is a great idea, but it is not realistic. NCAA would never sanction Vegas to do this. Sports has to pretend Vegas is not a major part of their business. 

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39 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Can we not do the SECSECSEC thing? Tennessee is fucking terrible and you know it. They got blown out by Alabama. I'm just saying Vandy is not playoff caliber, that's all.

In your opinion, which teams are playoff caliber?

 

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Just now, Tex-19 said:

Florida just beat FSU by 19 points. FSU beat Bama. Yet I don't hear a peep about Bama missing the playoffs because of that game.

Bama is playing in the CCG with 1 conference loss and 2 overall. We have 3 losses overall with 2 conference losses. How is it difficult to understand? 

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Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

This has always been true but go on king!

That is not true. These committees tend to pick on or the other based on their selection. The issue with the committees is they constantly change the parameters. They even do it during the season. How many dramatic changes have we seen from the committee from the penultimate ranking to the final over the years. 

Just my opinion, but I think a team's ceiling is more important than their floor in the playoffs. 

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1 minute ago, Codaxx said:

That is not true. These committees tend to pick on or the other based on their selection. The issue with the committees is they constantly change the parameters. They even do it during the season. How many dramatic changes have we seen from the committee from the penultimate ranking to the final over the years. 

Just my opinion, but I think a team's ceiling is more important than their floor in the playoffs. 

It doesn't matter what you think and the only thing that matters is 3 > 2 in terms of losses and that's why we won't get in.

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1 minute ago, Tex-19 said:

Florida just beat FSU by 19 points. FSU beat Bama. Yet I don't hear a peep about Bama missing the playoffs because of that game.

I mean bama was precariously close to losing to auburn. The loss to Oklahoma is pretty bad, but they beat Georgia and that counts for something. We beat a&m and it is going to count for something. 

If the committee wants to fuck around and find out on the Ohio State loss that's what we are going to see play out. This is as cut and dry of a situation to set precedent as possible. If they want these types of games to continue they put Texas in. If they want everyone to cancel ooc matchups outside the playoffs they will have Texas be the first team out. 

 

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1 minute ago, immamac said:

I mean bama was precariously close to losing to auburn. The loss to Oklahoma is pretty bad, but they beat Georgia and that counts for something. We beat a&m and it is going to count for something. 

If the committee wants to fuck around and find out on the Ohio State loss that's what we are going to see play out. This is as cut and dry of a situation to set precedent as possible. If they want these types of games to continue they put Texas in. If they want everyone to cancel ooc matchups outside the playoffs they will have Texas be the first team out. 

 

Should be cancelling anyway with SEC going to 9 conference games. Giving no room for error in conference with those games continued to be scheduled. Just go in 3-0 and don't lose more than 2 conference games. 

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2 hours ago, Helobious said:

Yeah hate to sound all “white guys can’t jump”, but I watched BYU-Tech this year. There was a ridiculous disparity in athleticism and speed all over the field, BYU never had a chance. And their QB is a shitty Tebow clone. 

Well tech is fucked now.

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4 minutes ago, immamac said:

I mean bama was precariously close to losing to auburn. The loss to Oklahoma is pretty bad, but they beat Georgia and that counts for something. We beat a&m and it is going to count for something. 

If the committee wants to fuck around and find out on the Ohio State loss that's what we are going to see play out. This is as cut and dry of a situation to set precedent as possible. If they want these types of games to continue they put Texas in. If they want everyone to cancel ooc matchups outside the playoffs they will have Texas be the first team out. 

 

I think Bama needs to get their door blown off for Texas to have a chance. That said the only other way is if you here the committee chair says SOS and OOC scheduling about 20 times on the ESPN show, which I think has about a 1% chance of happening 

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2 minutes ago, immamac said:

I mean bama was precariously close to losing to auburn. The loss to Oklahoma is pretty bad, but they beat Georgia and that counts for something. We beat a&m and it is going to count for something. 

If the committee wants to fuck around and find out on the Ohio State loss that's what we are going to see play out. This is as cut and dry of a situation to set precedent as possible. If they want these types of games to continue they put Texas in. If they want everyone to cancel ooc matchups outside the playoffs they will have Texas be the first team out. 

 

Precedent will likely be set this year in one way or another as Bama can be the first 3 loss at large. Our best hope here is when debating setting the precedent of a 3 loss at large they compare the fullness of the Bama/Texas Resumes. I would still have money on their resume over ours but the FSU loss evens it out some. 

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2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Should be cancelling anyway with SEC going to 9 conference games. Giving no room for error in conference with those games continued to be scheduled. Just go in 3-0 and don't lose more than 2 conference games. 

We understand your position on this, as you've hammered every fucking page of several threads repeating it. Many of the rest of us would prefer to see good OOC games because we actually enjoy the sport. 

@immamac's point, which you either can't grasp or simply ignored, is that the committee can change the notion on "margin for error" by bringing Texas into the fold. 

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5 minutes ago, immamac said:

I mean bama was precariously close to losing to auburn. The loss to Oklahoma is pretty bad, but they beat Georgia and that counts for something. We beat a&m and it is going to count for something. 

If the committee wants to fuck around and find out on the Ohio State loss that's what we are going to see play out. This is as cut and dry of a situation to set precedent as possible. If they want these types of games to continue they put Texas in. If they want everyone to cancel ooc matchups outside the playoffs they will have Texas be the first team out. 

 

Did you mean the loss to FSU? I know this is the wacky playoff argument season and Oklahoma is a very flawed team. But, if losing to a 10-2 SEC team by 2 points at home is a pretty bad loss we might've jumped the shark. It's not like Oklahoma's two losses were to bad teams. 

Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

We understand your position on this, as you've hammered every fucking page of several threads repeating it. Many of the rest of us would prefer to see good OOC games because we actually enjoy the sport. 

@immamac's point, which you either can't grasp or simply ignored, is that the committee can change the notion on "margin for error" by bringing Texas into the fold. 

But they’re not going to do that. Give me Ohio state in December or January when it actually matters vs in Sept. if a 3 loss team gets in it will be Bama because of them playing in CCG and the 3rd loss coming from that. 

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Posted
Just now, Sir Ulrich said:

Precedent will likely be set this year in one way or another as Bama can be the first 3 loss at large. Our best hope here is when debating setting the precedent of a 3 loss at large they compare the fullness of the Bama/Texas Resumes. I would still have money on their resume over ours but the FSU loss evens it out some. 

I think bumping the SEC runner up out of the playoffs because they played an extra game against a top 3 team would set its own horrible precedent.  

The reality is, however this goes, it's giving Sankey tons of leverage in negotiating playoff expansion.  It's not a coincidence that the SEC went to a 9 game schedule the day after the playoffs announced SOR would be a a big factor.  And now the committee is just ignoring this.  Particularly with respect to Notre Dame.  I actually think Notre Dame is one of a handful of teams that could win it all so I get it, but placing them as high is they are is just willfully ignoring their shitty schedule. 

In the committee's defense, it's an extremely unique year where there just weren't any upsets the last few weeks so there are more playoff worthy teams.  I think last year a 9-3 Texas team would have gotten in rather easily over SMU.

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BTW, on ND's 2026 schedule, their 2026 opponents' 2025 record is 64-79. That's buoyed heavily by Miami, SMU, USC and Navy. 8 teams with losing records of 2-10, 2-10, 3-9, 4-8, 4-8, 4-8, 4-8, and 5-7. 

For comparison's sake, the Texas 2026 opponents have a 2025 record of 90-54, 7 teams with winning records, 3 with losing records, and 2 at 6-6. 

Notre Dame is a 2026 lock and will almost certainly get a bye. 

Posted
9 minutes ago, Skipper said:

I think bumping the SEC runner up out of the playoffs because they played an extra game against a top 3 team would set its own horrible precedent.  

The reality is, however this goes, it's giving Sankey tons of leverage in negotiating playoff expansion.  It's not a coincidence that the SEC went to a 9 game schedule the day after the playoffs announced SOR would be a a big factor.  And now the committee is just ignoring this.  Particularly with respect to Notre Dame.  I actually think Notre Dame is one of a handful of teams that could win it all so I get it, but placing them as high is they are is just willfully ignoring their shitty schedule. 

In the committee's defense, it's an extremely unique year where there just weren't any upsets the last few weeks so there are more playoff worthy teams.  I think last year a 9-3 Texas team would have gotten in rather easily over SMU.

I think people need to stop pretending that anything the committee does in 2025 will set a precedent. Losing in title game should matter. You get your doors blown off and your QB loses a leg, it matters. This is a beauty competition, so there will always be subjectivity. Today's precedent might get violated tomorrow. If a CC game can help you, it should also be able to hurt you. 

Posted (edited)
37 minutes ago, gernblansten said:

In your opinion, which teams are playoff caliber?

 

Not the G5 teams, or Miami, or ND, or Vandy or Utah. Everyone else including Texas I'm ok with.

e: Or BYU unless they can show something they haven't this coming weekend.

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20 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

But they’re not going to do that. Give me Ohio state in December or January when it actually matters vs in Sept. if a 3 loss team gets in it will be Bama because of them playing in CCG and the 3rd loss coming from that. 

Hear, hear! and huzzah, good sir! Please keep repeating this on every other page so the rest of us can understand your important point of view. 

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The argument boils down to this, Aggies are regarded as fuck and OU sucks. 
What else is there to discuss, it so freaking simple guys.
For the sake of humanity and all that is pure in the world the Longhorns absolutely deserve to be in the CFP.  

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If the committee gets pressured to put Texas in to keep the out-of-conference games, what are the odds they make Ole Miss the fall guy to give Texas a spot? 

Posted
1 minute ago, Noozak said:

If the committee gets pressured to put Texas in to keep the out-of-conference games, what are the odds they make Ole Miss the fall guy to give Texas a spot? 

I really don't think you can punish the Ole Miss team because of Kiffin's actions. That would be pretty low, but who knows. Anything could happen.

Posted
6 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Hear, hear! and huzzah, good sir! Please keep repeating this on every other page so the rest of us can understand your important point of view. 

This thread is everyone repeating the same shit on every other page anyway. But glad you agree with my correct assessment.  

Posted
2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

This thread is everyone repeating the same shit on every other page anyway. But glad you agree with my correct assessment.  

#peaksurly

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If BYU loses how are we not in over them?  Same with Bama?  We beat a team that beat them; they beat a team that beat us. But the team that beat them is lower ranked than the team that beat us. Both have a shitty loss, but the shitty team we lost to just blew out the shitty team they lost to. Both would have a loss to Georgia. Their win over Georgia would be better than our win over a&m.

Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

I really don't think you can punish the Ole Miss team because of Kiffin's actions. That would be pretty low, but who knows. Anything could happen.

Same.  That sets a really awful precedent. 

Can't punish the athletes for their HC being a dick

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5 minutes ago, Noozak said:

If the committee gets pressured to put Texas in to keep the out-of-conference games, what are the odds they make Ole Miss the fall guy to give Texas a spot? 

If Ole Miss was a borderline playoff team in the 10-12 range, I could see that but the most I could see is the committee making them go on the road as a 9/10 and bump everyone up a spot. Those teams were all getting home games anyway except Notre Dame. 

Posted
4 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

I get everyone wants us to get in. I get we want in.  But some people here sound as delusional as aggy.
 

I hate the argument some are making that   because other teams aren’t Texas that they must accept their MID status for eternity and their fans  don’t have the right to want to be better or to play in CFP’s or to politic to be in them. 
 

I want us to get in. But if we don’t it’s because our loss to Florida was after a bye week and never ever ever should have happened. ever. Not in year 5 of a top 5 NIL Sark led team that cost around $30 million. Period. If we don’t get in we all KNOW why. 
 

Take it up with sark who clearly wasn’t ready for our first SEC game, after a fucking BYE week, didn’t have the team ready, wasn’t engaged on the sidelines, made no real adjustments after the half and he legit keeps thinking 3 losses will some day be a thing soon for the CFP. I’m mad at him. But that doesn’t mean I don’t want to get in and win and see what we have. 
 

I wish people here would pummel Sark VERBALLY on this board and not each other. lol. 😂 

Well, you’re wrong. A 9 game SEC schedule and a P4 OOC game will have an effect on the entire SEC. There will be a lot of 9-3 going forward.

i hate your take too. Florida loss is all you talk about. But you, and all the other aggys, refuse to look at the other side of the balance sheet. Wins against 25% of the fucking playoff field means you can win the thing. There is a great chance that half of this field will have NO WINS against a playoff. Even after the first round!

You can say “no one else has 3 losses” but I’ll say “no one else has 3 playoff team wins”.  Give Sark some credit. For the entire season. Not just one game. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Js1 said:

 

Can't punish the athletes for their HC being a dick

we should actually push for this punishment as a standing rule for the committee.  I'd love to punish dirt burglar/Georgia for Venables/Smart.

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1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

we should actually push for this punishment as a standing rule for the committee.  I'd love to punish dirt burglar/Georgia for Venables/Smart.

New metric:

Head coach behavior 

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1 minute ago, mdmost said:

If Ole Miss was a borderline playoff team in the 10-12 range, I could see that but the most I could see is the committee making them go on the road as a 9/10 and bump everyone up a spot. Those teams were all getting home games anyway except Notre Dame. 

Yeah I think this is a reasonable take. Seedings have been adjusted in the past (FSU) based on major developments to a team's chances. How much does Lane leaving have an effect on Ole Miss being a playoff team? Idk I was trying to have another conversation that wasn't the same as the last 500 posts about not losing to Florida lol 

Posted
2 minutes ago, The Drum said:

Well, you’re wrong. A 9 game SEC schedule and a P4 OOC game will have an effect on the entire SEC. There will be a lot of 9-3 going forward.

i hate your take too. Florida loss is all you talk about. But you, and all the other aggys, refuse to look at the other side of the balance sheet. Wins against 25% of the fucking playoff field means you can win the thing. There is a great chance that half of this field will have NO WINS against a playoff. Even after the first round!

You can say “no one else has 3 losses” but I’ll say “no one else has 3 playoff team wins”.  Give Sark some credit. For the entire season. Not just one game. 

I think we should be in. But it’s not a clear cut case.   We can cherry pick stats all we want.  If I were an ou fan I’d point to wins vs top 25IMG_4272.thumb.png.2e90308110242e1e3a1f101f83a67dd6.png

Posted
11 minutes ago, Noozak said:

If the committee gets pressured to put Texas in to keep the out-of-conference games, what are the odds they make Ole Miss the fall guy to give Texas a spot? 

 

That isn’t happening.

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I think we are not likely to get in, and I think we should also cancel OSU, Michigan, and Notre Dame over the next few years.  Texas is for sure better than Viriginia, Duke, North Texas and most likely better than at least BYU.  If we can't get the best 12 teams into the playoff, then take away all the Network's money from them on early season games.   I say this as a season ticket holder that would much rather see those games in DKR than another game against UTRGV, but if that is how the system is going to be setup then it is necessary.  

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1 minute ago, chemHORN said:

I think we are not likely to get in, and I think we should also cancel OSU, Michigan, and Notre Dame over the next few years.  Texas is for sure better than Viriginia, Duke, North Texas and most likely better than at least BYU.  If we can't get the best 12 teams into the playoff, then take away all the Network's money from them on early season games.   I see this as a season ticket holder that would much rather see those games in DKR than another game against UTRGV, but if that is how the system is going to be setup then it is necessary.  

Cancel ND
Keep Michigan and Ohio State to finish those series - fuck giving them the last game and not having them come to Austin in September heat/humidity. 

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