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10 minutes ago, bolverk said:

 

 

 

This and the couple of post from @bolverk above are the sort of things that causes bigger issues than most will recognize. I'm curious about the view numbers on those, but if they are going even minor viral, it's a bigger issue than Russia will ever admit. Part of war propaganda is now absolutely in the hands of influencers, for better or worse. For better, in this case for the record.

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3 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

That's the sort of thing that causes bigger issues than most will recognize. I'm curious about the view numbers on that, but if they are going even minor viral, it's a bigger issue than Russia will ever admit. Part of war propaganda is now absolutely in the hands of influencers, for better or worse. For better, in this case for the record.

I've been hopeful in the past that something would get through to the Russian public. At some point, there will be that final straw, but I'm done with even trying to speculate nowadays.

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https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/4021443-mass-desertion-among-russian-paratroopers-in-zaporizhzhia-region-atesh.html

 

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"Atesh agents within the 247th Air Assault Regiment, stationed in the occupied territory of the Zaporizhzhia region, report widespread unauthorized abandonment of positions (AWOL). This is particularly affecting one of the air assault battalions," the statement reads.

The reasons for desertion are described as obvious — forcibly mobilized Ukrainians from Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, and Crimea do not want to fight against their own country. Lawlessness, incompetent leadership, refusal to register official reports, intimidation, and constant frontline casualties only strengthen their desire to flee.

Read also: Partisans uncover reconnaissance drone production at Luhansk factory

Partisans note that soldiers are often listed as deserters even after being wounded, as they are "lost" in the paperwork following transfer to a hospital. Medical personnel typically do not specify the soldier's location, and officers attribute their absence to desertion.

As previously reported, nearly 50,000 armed Russian deserters are significantly worsening the criminal situation in the temporarily occupied Ukrainian territories.

 

https://www.ukrinform.ua/rubric-tymchasovo-okupovani/3999012-tisaci-rosijskih-dezertiriv-peretvoruut-tot-ukraini-na-kriminalnu-zonu-cns.html

 

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Almost 50,000 armed Russian deserters are rapidly worsening the criminal situation in the temporarily occupied Ukrainian lands.

According to Ukrinform, this was reported in Telegram by the Center for National Resistance.

"Due to the mass desertion of militants of the so-called "svo" security situation at the TOT of Ukraine is rapidly deteriorating. According to the Center for National Resistance, more than 49 000 Russian servicemen have left their seats in service since the beginning of the full-scale invasion. And this is the equivalent of several full-fledged divisions," the message reads.

It is noted that most of these criminals do not return to the Russian Federation, but hide on the TOT and become a real threat to the local population. Robbery, beatings, rape and murder, which the occupiers are trying to hide or attribute to civilians, have become commonplace.

The invaders bring rescuers from Russia to the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine

"International human rights organizations should pay attention to the complete degradation of security on the TOT of Ukraine," the Center for National Resistance calls.

As Ukrinform reported, the Russians have developed a plan for the resettlement of "SVO veterans" to the temporarily occupied territory of Ukraine.

 

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13 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Russian authorities arrested them for filming it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/s/PQn7k9WHbg

Sadly not a suprise. Worse based on what I am being made aware of crossed with my admittedly limited knowledge of criminal oligarchs, females will end up in sex trade, males "former" soldiers potentially becoming a criminal issue for Ukrainian people. 

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10 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Be curious if this is a trend of using women in combat.  NSFW

 

If they're sending women, what does that say about Russian "traditional values?"  

Lives of the youth - no matter which gender - are equally worthless.

 

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17 hours ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

50K armed deserters.    wowza

That is like Newt Knight and his crew on steroids and vodka.  

50k is equal to the number of all US military deserts during World War II in Europe.  But we had almost 2,000,000 servicemen in Europe at the time, and the geographic reach of where all the troops were stationed is vastly greater than the small amount of territory in an occupied Ukrainian area. 

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29 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

50K armed deserters.    wowza

That is like Newt Knight and his crew on steroids and vodka.  

50k is equal to the number of all US military deserts during World War II in Europe.  But we had almost 2,000,000 servicemen in Europe at the time, and the geographic reach of where all the troops were stationed is vastly greater than the small amount of territory in an occupied Ukrainian area. 

 

I assume the 50k is a little inflated, but really any number above a 5k is bad news for them. 

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1 hour ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

 

I assume the 50k is a little inflated, but really any number above a 5k is bad news for them. 


it be nice if there was a way to weaponize them and send them to go after Putin. But, for whatever reason, they prefer to stay in the Ukraine and steal and rape there. The deserters, it seems, are as worthless as the non-deserters.

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3 hours ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

 

I assume the 50k is a little inflated, but really any number above a 5k is bad news for them. 

it also means that any Russian military patrols have to be on the lookout for bands of armed deserters who might light them up in an ambush if they venture into the wrong areas.  

in World War II, American deserters often wound up working for organized crime in the black market, using their weapons to hijack red ball express trucks for arms and ammunition medicine, etc.      

The people back home in World War II never heard about this, because it was not a good look.   I can only assume that they are doing this exact same thing in Russian controlled Ukrainian territories.  i’m pretty sure that brand new Russian soldiers sent to the meat grinder have very little desire to get in fire fights with experienced combat troops who have deserted with their weapons.

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it also means that any Russian military patrols have to be on the lookout for bands of armed deserters who might light them up in an ambush if they venture into the wrong areas.  
in World War II, American deserters often wound up working for organized crime in the black market, using their weapons to hijack red ball express trucks for arms and ammunition medicine, etc.      
The people back home in World War II never heard about this, because it was not a good look.   I can only assume that they are doing this exact same thing in Russian controlled Ukrainian territories.  i’m pretty sure that brand new Russian soldiers sent to the meat grinder have very little desire to get in fire fights with experienced combat troops who have deserted with their weapons.

Man if you’re telling me there’s 50k deserters essentially acting as Ukrainian partisans behind Russian lines, I’m here for that. Luhansk and Donetsk must be the goddam Wild West right about now.

*That 50k number seems pretty outlandish to me though.
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9 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:


*That 50k number seems pretty outlandish to me though.

I totally agree. I was just taking that number from another source and rolling with it.  But even if 1/10 that, the problem still remains.

Putin has a problem.  One, he doesn’t have enough troops to go after a large amount of heavily armed deserters.  He needs them for his meat grinding.  Two, I’m sure Putin does not want his country to know  - or other soldiers or potential conscripts to know - that one can simply say “fuck it” and walk away from the front line with your weapon. Three, that the only thing keeping the deserters from arrest or death or being sent back to the frontline is the fact that they are heavily armed - with the best kit they could select/steal after their platoon mates were killed.  

This means that for their continued survival, they must make raids on the MOD ammunition logistics system to replenish ammo.  I refuse to believe it impossible that at least some of them are doing this.  

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5K could wreak havoc. Ukraine could offer them amnesty after the war, etc, and some could become a fifth column. I mean, they are dead men walking if they remain in Russia or surrender.

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1 minute ago, Gatorubet said:

I totally agree. I was just taking that number from another source and rolling with it.  But even if 1/10 that, the problem still remains.

Putin has a problem.  One, he doesn’t have enough troops to go after a large amount of heavily armed deserters.  He needs them for his meat grinding.  Two, I’m sure Putin does not want his country to know  - or other soldiers or potential conscripts to know - that one can simply say “fuck it” and walk away from the front line with your weapon. Three, that the only thing keeping the deserters from arrest or death or being sent back to the frontline is the fact that they are heavily armed - with the best kit they could select/steal after their platoon mates were killed.  

This means that for their continued survival, they must make raids on the MOD ammunition logistics system to replenish ammo.  I refuse to believe it impossible that at least some of them are doing this.  

I totally get that you and I are on the same page with regards to the number. 

Even if its one tenth the quoted, that's a lot of people who can make life harder on the frontline by stealing/criming behind the lines.  I don't want to see innocent Uke's in occupied territories get harmed any more than they already are, but man, more power to the deserters.  I know that's where I'd be if I were them.  Stay on the line and inevitably die, or have a shot at survival by being a modern day highwayman?  I'll take that second option.  

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Russia’s Oil Revenue Falls by Third on Weak Prices, Strong Ruble

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-08-05/russia-s-oil-revenue-falls-by-third-on-weak-prices-strong-ruble

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Russia’s proceeds from oil in the state budget shrank by a third from a year ago in July following a drop in global crude prices and the appreciation of the nation’s currency.
Oil-related taxes declined by almost 33% to 710.4 billion rubles ($8.9 billion) last month, according to Bloomberg calculations based on Finance Ministry data published Tuesday. Combined oil and gas revenue totaled 787.3 billion rubles, down by 27%, the data showed.
The drop in proceeds from those industries — which account for roughly a third of Russia’s budget — will ramp up pressure on state finances, which are already burdened by massive spending on fighting in Ukraine.
With the Kremlin’s war well into its fourth year, Russia’s oil industry remains a key target for Western sanctions to limit the inflow of petrodollars into nation’s coffers. The European Union will lower its price cap on Russia crude and ban imports of petroleum products made from the country’s oil, while US President Donald Trump has threatened to impose penalties on Moscow’s energy customers.

On a month-to-month basis, oil revenue rose by almost 71% last month, according to Bloomberg calculations. The increase reflects the fact that one of Russia’s main oil taxes — a profit-based levy — is paid four times a year in March, April, July and October.
The ministry calculated Russia’s July oil revenue based on an average Urals price of $59.84 a barrel in June. While that’s the first monthly increase in the nation’s key export blend in five months — global crude prices soared at the time due to fighting in the Middle East — Urals barrels traded 14% lower than a year ago, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.
Benchmark prices have declined on an annual basis as Trump’s trade policy threatens to slow the global economy, while OPEC+ boosts production faster than expected.

A stronger currency also contributed to lower revenues as the appreciation means oil companies receive fewer rubles for every barrel they pump and sell. In June, the Russian currency traded at an average of 78.7183 rubles per US dollar, the strongest in more than two years, driven by interest rates remaining near a record.
As a result, the country’s oil producers received 4,711 rubles for each barrel sold compared with 6,127 rubles a year ago, Bloomberg calculations show.
Still, lower global crude and oil-product prices helped the government to reduce subsidies it pays to Russia’s refiners to partially compensate for the difference in fuel prices at home and abroad, a measure designed to boost gasoline and diesel supplies to the domestic market. In July, the budget transferred 59.9 billion rubles in subsidies, down by 58% from a year ago.

 

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