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4 hours ago, MotownHorn said:

It is absolutely insane that using cannabis gets anyone suspended from anything in the year 2019.

Don't bring that "but it's illegal!" nonsense. Give me a break. It won't be in 20 years.

It's like kicking someone off the team for being gay in 1980 (yeah that was illegal then too).

You got the dumbs 

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7 hours ago, Machinator said:

Look, I'm not defending Shaka, but if Snoop wants to keep toking up in violation of school policy, what exactly can he do? Was he supposed to kick him off the team last year and lose even more games?

for me it isn't this one instance so much as it is that players lacking discipline seems to be a theme under Shaka, and for there to be so many cases in such a short amount of time makes it seem (to me anyway) like it's only a harbinger of things to come. EDJ, Mack, Roach, and who knows what all else has gone on with how cryptic/secretive Shaka is about his program. Lacking discipline/being unable to follow basic rules seems to be a recurring issue for guys who play for him

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4 hours ago, Scraps said:

You got the dumbs 

Nah. You clowns are defending suspending someone for using cannabis in 2019. It’s not me who’s got the dumbs.

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You clowns are probably also cool with the NFL banning people for using cannabis while letting drunk drivers, domestic abusers (as long as there’s not a video), etc. play 

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33 minutes ago, MotownHorn said:

Nah. You clowns are defending suspending someone for using cannabis in 2019. It’s not me who’s got the dumbs.

Pretty sure they’re just saying it’s against the rules/illegal RIGHT NOW to do so. Seems like you can’t get by that for some reason. I haven’t seen anybody say they’re against smoking pot. You seem to be taking this personally

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To me it’s not really a question of exactly which rule Roach broke; its that he evidently broke one known to be major. If that’s the case, it’s impossible to excuse. And especially so for a “team leader.”

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1 hour ago, MotownHorn said:

You clowns are probably also cool with the NFL banning people for using cannabis while letting drunk drivers, domestic abusers (as long as there’s not a video), etc. play 

no, i think we all agree that weed should be legalized and that it's much better for you than the opiates, narcotics, and benzos that the nfl has been using to treat their players, we just also all think that you've got to be one special kind of water head retard to be a senior starter with nba aspirations who can't stop smoking weed for a few months in order to stay eligible. Roach has all of the dumbs.

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11 hours ago, MotownHorn said:

Nah. You clowns are defending suspending someone for using cannabis in 2019. It’s not me who’s got the dumbs.

It doesn't matter if you agree with the rule or not.  he's an idiot for violating it.

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If the team rule was not to drink, and he drank, he deserves a suspension even if booze is legal. 

Whether or not weed should be legalized (it should) is immaterial. 

Follow the fucking team rules, it's not that hard. 

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I don’t mean to come off like I’m defending Roach, but maybe the dude needs help. I don’t give a fuck what anyone says, you can most definitely become addicted to weed, even if it’s just a psychological addiction. I don’t always think it’s as simple as “dudes an idiot, he knew he would get drug tested. He just doesn’t care.” 

 

Again, I’m not saying we know for sure that’s the case, but do we know for sure that it isn’t? The argument that it’s a dumb rule holds true, but you could say that about any employer that drug tests. It’s their rule and it has to be followed. But I have a hard time believing some of these people that continue to fail drug tests (ie Randy Gregory) are all just stupid. They’re addicted to weed. Hell, I’ve been addicted to weed at one point in my life. You can’t eat without it. You can’t sleep without it. It was hard to be in social settings without it, etc. 

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Craig Way said he broke team and 'University' rules.  Does the university really have a no weed rule?  

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3 minutes ago, SDG said:

Craig Way said he broke team and 'University' rules.  Does the university really have a no weed rule?  

Maybe an athletic department rule. 

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1 minute ago, Dennis Taylor said:

Maybe an athletic department rule. 

could be.  Shaka also just said it wasn't his decision...

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7 minutes ago, SDG said:

Craig Way said he broke team and 'University' rules.  Does the university really have a no weed rule?  

Remember when Holton Hill was suspended last season?

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That was something I meant to ask as well. I wonder if that was a rule put in place by our current AD. Because there have been plenty of guys in our program that would’ve been suspended indefinitely if this were in place when Deloss was here. No?

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1 hour ago, youdunnf'dup said:

I don’t mean to come off like I’m defending Roach, but maybe the dude needs help. I don’t give a fuck what anyone says, you can most definitely become addicted to weed, even if it’s just a psychological addiction. I don’t always think it’s as simple as “dudes an idiot, he knew he would get drug tested. He just doesn’t care.” 

 

Again, I’m not saying we know for sure that’s the case, but do we know for sure that it isn’t? The argument that it’s a dumb rule holds true, but you could say that about any employer that drug tests. It’s their rule and it has to be followed. But I have a hard time believing some of these people that continue to fail drug tests (ie Randy Gregory) are all just stupid. They’re addicted to weed. Hell, I’ve been addicted to weed at one point in my life. You can’t eat without it. You can’t sleep without it. It was hard to be in social settings without it, etc. 

UT Athletics has in-house counseling for this stuff, including mental health and substance abuse/addiction.  

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8 minutes ago, Js1 said:

UT Athletics has in-house counseling for this stuff, including mental health and substance abuse/addiction.  

Trust me, I get that. But when you’re in the middle of it, it’s hard to wrap your mind around the fact that you’re addicted to something like weed, especially when you’ve been told your whole life that you can’t get addicted to weed. And there’s a certain level of pride that (no racist) seems to be more prevalent in the black community in regards to seeking help in this regard (especially when it comes to mental health, substance abuse, and/or depression). He might not be doing everything he needs to be doing in regards to getting the help he needs, and that’s on him. I’m just saying I don’t think it’s as simple as he doesn’t care, and he’d rather smoke weed than play basketball. 

I smoked, in some capacity, pretty much every day from the age of 15 to 25. I was applying for a job a few years after college that required a drug test, so I told myself that I need to quit now if I’m going to pass this test. I’m sure a lot of you here have taken adderall. When I tried to quit, I felt like I had all the negative side effects of taking adderall without my brain feeling like it was on steroids. Eventually I gave up on the idea and I just had to...find a way to pass the test while still smoking on a regular basis. It wasn’t until that point that I couldn’t just stop whenever I wanted to like most people. 

I’ll smoke now if I’m with friends and they have it, but I don’t buy it anymore because I know myself too well. But I’m also 28. What is he, 21? Not saying you should feel sorry for him. But if he’s had the same type of experience dealing with depression, smoking for most of his life as a coping mechanism (which is a terrible idea obviously), and then trying to quit, I understand where he’s coming from.

 

Or I guess he could just be an idiot. But we don’t know. 

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Definitely looks like weed.

Just incredibly dumb. Texas probably wins easily today with Roach. Your team is fighting for a NCAA bid and you can't wait a month. 

 

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1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

CDC tanking the season so he can fire Shaka ASAP.  

 

I hope.

Not that CDC doesn't have the authority and that this defense would hold any water, but if that were the case, Shaka could just say "well yeah, Snoop gone, of course we flamed out".

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7 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

CDC tanking the season so he can fire Shaka ASAP.  

 

I hope.

CDC didn’t need any help with “tanking “. You seen our man  Shaka coach? He’s doing just fine tanking the season and does not need the AD’s help. 

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8 hours ago, Machinator said:

 

Brian Davis said on the radio today, that it was Shaka's decision to have Snoop travel with the team.  Sounds like Shaka was concerned to leave Snoop behind in Austin.

BD also mentioned if for example Snoop violated a 2nd drug test for let's say marijuana, the past university policy is to miss at least 10% of scheduled contests..... So best guess is Snoop might return in time for the final home game against TCU.

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On 2/23/2019 at 12:03 PM, youdunnf'dup said:

Trust me, I get that. But when you’re in the middle of it, it’s hard to wrap your mind around the fact that you’re addicted to something like weed, especially when you’ve been told your whole life that you can’t get addicted to weed. And there’s a certain level of pride that (no racist) seems to be more prevalent in the black community in regards to seeking help in this regard (especially when it comes to mental health, substance abuse, and/or depression). He might not be doing everything he needs to be doing in regards to getting the help he needs, and that’s on him. I’m just saying I don’t think it’s as simple as he doesn’t care, and he’d rather smoke weed than play basketball. 

I smoked, in some capacity, pretty much every day from the age of 15 to 25. I was applying for a job a few years after college that required a drug test, so I told myself that I need to quit now if I’m going to pass this test. I’m sure a lot of you here have taken adderall. When I tried to quit, I felt like I had all the negative side effects of taking adderall without my brain feeling like it was on steroids. Eventually I gave up on the idea and I just had to...find a way to pass the test while still smoking on a regular basis. It wasn’t until that point that I couldn’t just stop whenever I wanted to like most people. 

I’ll smoke now if I’m with friends and they have it, but I don’t buy it anymore because I know myself too well. But I’m also 28. What is he, 21? Not saying you should feel sorry for him. But if he’s had the same type of experience dealing with depression, smoking for most of his life as a coping mechanism (which is a terrible idea obviously), and then trying to quit, I understand where he’s coming from.

 

Or I guess he could just be an idiot. But we don’t know. 

I've been right there too, needed to give a new employer a clean sample and couldn't/wouldn't quit. I managed with some help from someone else which in hindsight was a shitty thing to do. A really good example of someone who can't seem to get it together when everything you could ever want financially is on the line is Josh Gordon. 

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32 minutes ago, Machinator said:

 

Snoop not getting to play in his Senior Day....

CDC not messing around with discipline....

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51 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Snoop not getting to play in his Senior Day....

CDC not messing around with discipline....

agreed and is appropriate. Does anyone actually know what happened or is it assumed that its weed.

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best Horn dunker of all time, bar none. I really enjoyed the show for 4 years. We won't see that kind of floor blaster for a hell of a long time. 

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Super duper aggravating. I bet nobody in the country has had more live ball turnovers resulting in points for the team over the past 2 years.  The only reason anybody else would be close is because he missed so many games due to suspension. 

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He's a playground dream... just never seemed able to comprehend and digest all the moving parts of 5 on 5 college basketball, nor the Texas cannibus laws.

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4 hours ago, Braff Zacklin said:

 Completely unsurprising to learn that Snoop has a 45-inch vert.

Hope he lands somewhere and sticks.

he's got to come down first. 

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