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IMO - if you want to stop the oil from going into China it isn't going to be through a use of flattops and air superiority; it could be a joint blockade if we put enough ships at the Straits of Hormuz (or put some boomers with non-nuclear missiles somewhere in the Arabian Sea to just sink/damage a few to send a message. Not that we would have an appetite to be that agressive.

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8 hours ago, Horn of Gabriel said:

So aside from the absurdity of relocating 23M+ people to "somewhere else," there may be a nugget of goodness in here.  We could offer a completely streamlined green card/residency program for Taiwanese nationals and their families who have a certain education level or are in certain industries that we want to absorb (chip manufacturing?).  Of course that would: 1) really piss off the government of Taiwan for brain draining their population, 2) signal that we see their country as a lost cause and those who can had better get on the lifeboat and if you can't, "sorry," and 3) doesn't do anything to replicate the extensive infrastructure in manufacturing that TSMC and others have built up there which will take a decade or more to rebuild elsewhere.

But other than that it's a solid 10/10 

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Is not a group of people you want hanging around and unemployed, because good old fashioned dissent usually comes out of that group.

50 million+ InCels, without hopes of finding women, without access to porn, onlyfans, or mom’s basement, need something to do. Africa isn’t an option, based on Chinese issues with black folks. Other Asians hate them. Siberia beckons.
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1 hour ago, Texzilla58 said:


50 million+ InCels, without hopes of finding women, without access to porn, onlyfans, or mom’s basement, need something to do. Africa isn’t an option, based on Chinese issues with black folks. Other Asians hate them. Siberia beckons.

Siberia and tens of thousands of Russian widows.

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17 hours ago, Texzilla58 said:


50 million+ InCels, without hopes of finding women, without access to porn, onlyfans, or mom’s basement, need something to do. Africa isn’t an option, based on Chinese issues with black folks. Other Asians hate them. Siberia beckons.

I honestly didn't know this. Do they just dislike them because they are black or is there some historical thing I'm missing?

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On 5/18/2023 at 10:15 AM, SydneyCarton said:

I realize this is stupid as I say it, but Taiwan is a wildly valuable technical resource. We've got 4 years. We should just get a chunk of land and just let everyone in Taiwan move off that fucking island, bring as many as want to come, bring as much tech and resources and knowledge as they can, and then raze what's left to the fucking ground so China gets nothing. Give them the worthless acreage they want, and allow the people and intellectual bounty to resettle elsewhere. It's the size of Maryland or New Jersey. Lets lease them a chunk of Alaska for 500 years in exchange for friendly sharing of technology, with the chance to become a state later if they want. 

Forcibly relocating Asians. Ok, then. 
 

Maybe we could move them all to Crystal City for old times’ sake. 

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4 hours ago, Mullet Free said:

Forcibly relocating Asians. Ok, then. 
 

Maybe we could move them all to Crystal City for old times’ sake. 

yes. I said forcibly relocate. “Let as many who want to come” screams forcible relocation. Along with leasing them land for sovereign statehood.
 

Listen, I know you’re capable of reading, although I admit your posting history does indicate that your comprehension is spotty at best, so your post isn’t surprising. But it is sad. Because you’re either so stupid you can’t comprehend a basic post, or you’re so desperate to try and score a Gotcha post you’ll just bull ahead and hope the rest of the thread is as dense as you and won’t notice. 
 

Maybe by your next handle you’ll be a bit smarter. Hope springs eternal, after all.  

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19 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

yes. I said forcibly relocate. “Let as many who want to come” screams forcible relocation. Along with leasing them land for sovereign statehood.
 

Listen, I know you’re capable of reading, although I admit your posting history does indicate that your comprehension is spotty at best, so your post isn’t surprising. But it is sad. Because you’re either so stupid you can’t comprehend a basic post, or you’re so desperate to try and score a Gotcha post you’ll just bull ahead and hope the rest of the thread is as dense as you and won’t notice. 
 

Maybe by your next handle you’ll be a bit smarter. Hope springs eternal, after all.  

 

 

On 5/18/2023 at 10:15 AM, SydneyCarton said:

let everyone in Taiwan move off that fucking island, bring as many as want to come, bring as much tech and resources and knowledge as they can, and then raze what's left to the fucking ground

Sounds like you’re not leaving them much choice before you “raze what’s left to the fucking ground”.
 

It doesn’t really matter. It’s an idiotic hypothetical solution as you said yourself.

 

 

 

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56 minutes ago, Mullet Free said:

 

 

Sounds like you’re not leaving them much choice before you “raze what’s left to the fucking ground”.
 

It doesn’t really matter. It’s an idiotic hypothetical solution as you said yourself.

 

 

 

I’m assuming in my wildly stupid hypothetical, most would all want to come. But unless those who don’t are all the folks working in the chip industry, or sympathetic to China, I’m guessing blowing the chip factories and other sectors won’t rally matter to them much. 
 

you’re right, it’s an absurd suggestion. Which makes your efforts to try and paint me as someone advocating for internment all the more pathetic, as you literally just admitted you recognized the absurdity. 
 

par for the course for a guy who admitted he exists in this website to troll people. 

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16 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

par for the course for a guy who admitted he exists in this website to troll people. 

Point of clarification before we can ignore each other forever and quit wasting each other's time.

I exist on this website to point out and laugh at when the experts and mainstream narrative are wrong.

I only admitted to trolling when I rarely share tweets from one account that is extremely triggering to some. 

God speed Syd

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One thing I read recently that I hadn't considered which makes wholesale invasion of Taiwan less likely is the China views Taiwan and its people as Chinese. Makes them less likely to go scorched Earth like the Russians who see the Ukrainians as a separate people that need to be subjugated at best or eliminated at worst. 

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16 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

I’m assuming in my wildly stupid hypothetical, most would all want to come.

To an Alaskan island? Yeah, I think you are right.

 

I vote for taking over Sakhalin Oblast.

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On 5/20/2023 at 2:06 PM, Texzilla58 said:

Other Asians hate them. 

that's the japanese.

 

 

On 5/21/2023 at 8:00 AM, nineliveslost said:

I honestly didn't know this. Do they just dislike them because they are black or is there some historical thing I'm missing?

no history behind it.  they dislike the westernized blacks for their culture.  the african blacks they view as inferior and uncivilized.

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9 minutes ago, Mullet Free said:

One thing I read recently that I hadn't considered which makes wholesale invasion of Taiwan less likely is the China views Taiwan and its people as Chinese. Makes them less likely to go scorched Earth like the Russians who see the Ukrainians as a separate people that need to be subjugated at best or eliminated at worst. 

The original Russian narrative was that they were the same. Once the Ukrainians fought back the narrative changed.

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Mullet is persistent in his dumbassery, that's for sure. "Listen, China isn't likely to invade Taiwan, because they're Chinese." Nevermind the fact Winnie the Pooh has literally built up his military and told them to be ready to invade Taiwan by 2027. He's living by the axiom of "When someone shows tells you who they are...ignore them and any atrocities and wrongdoings."

Basically, he's a Holocaust Denier. 

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no history behind it.  they dislike the westernized blacks for their culture.  the african blacks they view as inferior and uncivilized.

There is history behind it, going back to Confucian times. Skin tone is considered a reflection of a number of values for Chinese and foreigners. There was high value placed on the near alabaster skin and round faces of the Han, darker pigments placed one nearer to evil. Blacks they consider practically demonic. This was the related to me by several Chinese scholarly sources as well as friends thru the years. All Asian cultures are incredibly xenophobic and disdainful of other nations.

The PRC considers Taiwan Chinese territory. They consider those there enemy combatants. These two sides killed millions of each other before 1949. It will be a horrible conflict. The only thing positive is the Chinese haven’t really mounted a successful offensive military campaign in over 1000 years.
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3 hours ago, Texzilla58 said:


There is history behind it, going back to Confucian times. Skin tone is considered a reflection of a number of values for Chinese and foreigners. There was high value placed on the near alabaster skin and round faces of the Han, darker pigments placed one nearer to evil. Blacks they consider practically demonic. This was the related to me by several Chinese scholarly sources as well as friends thru the years. All Asian cultures are incredibly xenophobic and disdainful of other nations.

that's a really academic and historical answer.  quite frankly, Chinese racist tendencies don't stem from those values anymore.  

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On 5/18/2023 at 8:15 AM, SydneyCarton said:

I realize this is stupid as I say it, but Taiwan is a wildly valuable technical resource. We've got 4 years. We should just get a chunk of land and just let everyone in Taiwan move off that fucking island, bring as many as want to come, bring as much tech and resources and knowledge as they can, and then raze what's left to the fucking ground so China gets nothing. Give them the worthless acreage they want, and allow the people and intellectual bounty to resettle elsewhere. It's the size of Maryland or New Jersey. Lets lease them a chunk of Alaska for 500 years in exchange for friendly sharing of technology, with the chance to become a state later if they want. 

Hell, let them move to East Texas where it's equally hot and humid.

Even if they don't bring their tech facilities with them, at least it'll raise the local average IQ by about 20 points.

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On 5/22/2023 at 8:34 AM, Mullet Free said:

One thing I read recently that I hadn't considered which makes wholesale invasion of Taiwan less likely is the China views Taiwan and its people as Chinese. Makes them less likely to go scorched Earth like the Russians who see the Ukrainians as a separate people that need to be subjugated at best or eliminated at worst. 

Your knowledge of geopolitics and East Asiatic demography is Grade A State Dept. level.  I wish I studied foreign affairs at the one bar where you get free drinks.  

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Sadly though, most Americans don't understand the intra-China racism that goes on inside their borders (literal genocide).  They also have no idea the horrors Japan visited upon China during the first half of the last century.  And then how both those countries feel about Vietnam/Thailand/Malaysia/et. al.  We have to paint with broad brushes because we don't even understand our own shit.  I think about these latest racist outbursts from Hispanic-Americans and Indian-Americans.  Latin Americans from Canada to Tierra del Fuego are 750mm people from dozens of nations and the landmass from the Rio Grande to the tip of Chile and Easter Island to the Dominican is half the size of Asia and most Texans think it's just one homogeneous group of people incapable of discriminating against one another.  China's internal racist shit is a good parallel to that way of thinking.  But the CCP seeks to quell the storytelling of their internal racism's historic origins, calling it damaging to the psyche of schoolchildren in the more preferred ethnic groups.  I'm glad that could never happen here.  

I often think about that Chapelle sketch about the blind black guy in the KKK.  He was so fucking prescient, it's scary.  

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On 5/22/2023 at 8:34 AM, Mullet Free said:

One thing I read recently that I hadn't considered which makes wholesale invasion of Taiwan less likely is the China views Taiwan and its people as Chinese. Makes them less likely to go scorched Earth like the Russians who see the Ukrainians as a separate people that need to be subjugated at best or eliminated at worst. 

The indigenous Taiwanese despised (and probably still do) the mainland Chinese because of the violent bloodbath of the local “objectors” by Chiang Kai Shek’s army when he relocated his Nationalist government there in 1949. 
At least that’s what a couple of the locals told my dad when we lived in the Taipei suburb of Tienmu in 1957. 
They’d be glad to see the mainland elements go, but most likely not at the expense of have the Chicoms replace them.

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