This is who Steve Sarkisian is.

[Thatguy 8393]

1 minute ago, lilMAC25 said:

I don’t think you can. You’re here rabidly defending a barely .500 coach (90 or so games into his HC career).

And you are passive-aggressively suggesting firing a coach year one, and still don't understand the ripple affect and how we got where we are....but you do you.

[Texaspython 231]

2 minutes ago, C-Man said:

It was 100% the right decision to get rid of Mack when we did. Because we haven’t figured things out in the interim does NOT change that fact. Dios mio, you clowns need to get your shit together.

The results have been astounding. Seriously, great idea.

[lilMAC25 3776]

Just now, Thatguy said:

And you are passive-aggressively suggesting firing a coach year one, and still don't understand the ripple affect and how we got where we are....but you do you.

I don’t think you do either.

[Texaspython 231]

1 minute ago, Thatguy said:

And you are passive-aggressively suggesting firing a coach year one, and still don't understand the ripple affect and how we got where we are....but you do you.

“Let’s keep doing the same thing over and over again, it’ll work this time, I swear”

The arrogance of these people is amazing.

[David Dennison 18485]

9 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

Not once in this thread have I advocated for firing Sarkisian. 

What would you do to change the culture at Texas? What IS the culture at Texas?

[lilMAC25 3776]

4 minutes ago, Texaspython said:

“Let’s keep doing the same thing over and over again, it’ll work this time, I swear”

The arrogance of these people is amazing.

Is it more arrogant to suggest that a coach who is clearly failing to produce will never produce or is it more arrogant to suggest that a coach who has never produced will suddenly begin to produce because he’s at Texas for 10 years?

Edited November 7, 2021 by lilMAC25

[lilMAC25 3776]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

What would you do to change the culture at Texas? What IS the culture at Texas?

The football culture is mediocre. And rapidly moving toward being a loser program (if it isn’t already there).

[XYZ 2154]

Everything went sideways when Colt got injured against Bama.

[Texaspython 231]

1 minute ago, lilMAC25 said:

Is it more arrogant to suggest that a coach who is clearly failing to produce will never produce or is it more arrogant to suggest that a coach who has never produced will suddenly begin to produce because he’s at Texas?

I’d say it more arrogant to criticize a coach without any substance. You’re mad we’re losing? Get over it. Actually watch what he’s trying to accomplish and if he’s got the tools to do it.

[David Dennison 18485]

3 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

The football culture is mediocre. And rapidly moving toward being a loser program (if it isn’t already there).

That is not a culture.

[Thatguy 8393]

Just now, utee94 said:

What if?  You've suggested this time and again. Others seem to agree with you.

Explain in detail exactly how this works.  What is the culture problem with the people hiring the coach, and how does it manifest in continued shitty football teams at Texas?  Be specific please.

  You've never worked anywhere that had unrealistic expectations and thus pushed the organization full speed towards doomsday? Its really not that hard. Organization hires you and then shortly thereafter slaps a two year business plan for expansion on your desk that is completely unreachable given the organizations resources and the given timeline. You try to cut some corners to hit their timeline/budget and end up running into a lot of issues. Organization isn't happy, fires you, and hires a new guy to fix it without reevaluating the business plan. New guy runs into the same issues and the organization fires that guy, and hires a new guy and yet again slaps the same business plan on said guy's desk without, yet again, reevaluating their expectations/resources.

   This is how loser organizations work from the inside out. They do not listen to the leadership they hire, instead they dictate what leadership should do, thus negating the reason for hiring them. They are basically just running the organization around the person who is supposed to be in charge and then letting them take the fall when it all crumbles.

[Blotto 23366]

48 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

  Who knows. I didn't like the Herman hire. I didn't like the Sark hire either. Herman could've won here given the right circumstances and support, though it may not have been at the clip someone with a better offensive philosophy could get. But the big issue is we keep setting every coach back by putting them on the hot seat, thus losing us players to transfer and ruining a couple recruiting cycles. Why are we in the QB situation we are in? Because we fired the coach, and the 5 star QB decided to take his talents elsewhere, as did a handful of other players. As did some guys who left early for the NFL that might of stayed if they didn't think they had to play in an entirely different system. We will do this again with Sark, and set the program back YET again. We are already hurting it by declaring him on the hot seat year one. Teams can already negatively recruit against him, and our track record supports everything they will say to a potential recruit to flip them. Keep watching.

Lulz. Losing records at the University of Texas do that. Blowing 4 games in a row when leading at half will do that. Looking like a JV team will do that.  Sark isnt getting fired this year, and he probably gets two more seasons to do whatever the fuck it is he's trying to do.  Strong was firmly on the hot seat after season 2 because he fucking sucked and based upon his performance at USF, it was absolutely the correct move to shit can him after year 3. If Sark puts up similar results as Strong, he'll get shitcanned as well. Thats life at any blueblood football school.  

 

30 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

What would you do to change the culture?

Hire the right coach and the culture changes. Its not that hard to fucking figure out. When it costs a few hundred dollars for two people to watch a college football game in person, the fan expectation to not have to watch complete dogshit on the field shouldnt be too surprising. Fan expectations wont be changing. If these motherfuckers want $6-7 mil per year and a few more million for their coaching staff, they better not step on their dicks every single fucking game. 

Did Alabama fans suddenly change their culture or did Saban? 

Did USC fans get tired of winning too much and change the culture, or did Carroll leaving have something to do with it?

Mullen started at UF finishing 6 and 7 in the AP in his first two seasons. Two years later, fans are screaming for his head.

That's just how it works now. I guess you can wish things were different, but you might as well wish to wake up this morning with Kate Beckensale sucking on your 12 inch hog. Aint gonna happen.  

Edited November 7, 2021 by Blotto

[lilMAC25 3776]

1 minute ago, Texaspython said:

I’d say it more arrogant to criticize a coach without any substance. You’re mad we’re losing? Get over it. Actually watch what he’s trying to accomplish and if he’s got the tools to do it.

We have 90ish games of substance.

[Thatguy 8393]

2 minutes ago, Texaspython said:

I’d say it more arrogant to criticize a coach without any substance. You’re mad we’re losing? Get over it. Actually watch what he’s trying to accomplish and if he’s got the tools to do it.

  This is exactly what all of us should be doing right now.

[dcar00 14002]

13 minutes ago, C-Man said:

It was 100% the right decision to get rid of Mack when we did. Because we haven’t figured things out in the interim does NOT change that fact. Dios mio, you clowns need to get your shit together.

yes, I think what we are saying is we'd be better off record wise had we kept Mack.  He probably would have turned in Herman like seasons and we would have avoided the Charlie 3 year losing season situation.  Mack was still a good enough recruiter, coach finder, and coach to get us 8-9 wins a year.  We wanted better and then Mack fucked us, Patterson fucked us, the Academics fucked us, and here we are.

[David Dennison 18485]

3 minutes ago, Blotto said:

Hire the right coach and the culture changes. Its not that hard to fucking figure out.

The difficulty lies in hiring the right coach. That's mostly luck.

[Texaspython 231]

4 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

We have 90ish games of substance.

Ah, you’re the guy who would have fired Saban after losing at home to Louisiana Monroe. 

[David Dennison 18485]

Just now, Texaspython said:

Ah, you’re the guy who would have fired Saban after losing at home to Louisiana Monroe. 

I don't think he would because Nick Saban had a resume of head coaching successes that included a national championship.

 

[HtownHorn 14395]

13 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

Anyone that is still blaming the players is a fucking idiot 

and yet everyone on this site wants Sarkisian to bring in has many portal players as possible.

[Blotto 23366]

3 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

The difficulty lies in hiring the right coach. That's mostly luck.

I absolutely agree with that. Its a crapshoot, and only a handful of schools are on top, with everyone else trying to get there. But to blame our current situation on the fans is fucking laughable. If we keep hiring clowns, we'll keep watching a circus on the field.

Edited November 7, 2021 by Blotto

[David Dennison 18485]

The most glaring red flag that actually made me do a double take when I saw it during one of our games was Steve Sarkisian's record as a head coach when losing at the half.

That should have been flagged during the hiring process, and it should have eliminated him as a candidate IMO.

[Thatguy 8393]

21 minutes ago, Blotto said:

 

 

Hire the right coach and the culture changes.

   That's not how that works at all. Some of the greatest coaches of all time didn't win at certain stops. They went to an organization that followed their business plan and that's where their career took off. Nebraska built a business model based on a plan that Tom Osborne had. Osborne's prop 48 plan would've never flown at Texas, but Nebraska allowed him to do it. Alabama allowed Saban to over recruit and cut the guys who are lesser, and thus the Saban we now know was born. Kirby Smart walked into Georgia with that same plan. Get good players at any cost. They are doing that and now it looks like they may get a trophy.

  We approach football like Michigan does, and therefore we get Michigan like results. The only way the culture changes here is if someone like Saban comes and bullies the org, or the org finally has enough of losing and changes the way it approaches things.

Edited November 7, 2021 by Thatguy

[Blotto 23366]

5 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

The most glaring red flag that actually made me do a double take when I saw it during one of our games was Steve Sarkisian's record as a head coach when losing at the half.

That should have been flagged during the hiring process, and it should have eliminated him as a candidate IMO.

And for some reason, he now seems determined to match those results when leading at the half, lulz.   

[UTEX_ME 4752]

7 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

The most glaring red flag that actually made me do a double take when I saw it during one of our games was Steve Sarkisian's record as a head coach when losing at the half.

That should have been flagged during the hiring process, and it should have eliminated him as a candidate IMO.

that and he's done a great job of losing with the LEAD at the half as well. 

[Chad 1728]

 

[Thatguy 8393]

Just now, Blotto said:

And for some reason, he now seems determined to match those results when leading at the half, lulz.   

  Those are both one and the same. But there are layers to it. Is he bad at adjustments or good at gameplanning?

[David Dennison 18485]

I know which one it isn't.

[utee94 15733]

20 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

  You've never worked anywhere that had unrealistic expectations and thus pushed the organization full speed towards doomsday? Its really not that hard. Organization hires you and then shortly thereafter slaps a two year business plan for expansion on your desk that is completely unreachable given the organizations resources and the given timeline. You try to cut some corners to hit their timeline/budget and end up running into a lot of issues. Organization isn't happy, fires you, and hires a new guy to fix it without reevaluating the business plan. New guy runs into the same issues and the organization fires that guy, and hires a new guy and yet again slaps the same business plan on said guy's desk without, yet again, reevaluating their expectations/resources.

   This is how loser organizations work from the inside out. They do not listen to the leadership they hire, instead they dictate what leadership should do, thus negating the reason for hiring them. They are basically just running the organization around the person who is supposed to be in charge and then letting them take the fall when it all crumbles.

Alabama did the same thing until they hired Saban.  Oklahoma did the same thing until they hired Stoops.  This isn't unique to Texas.  Things keeps on sucking, until the right guy is hired.  

[Blotto 23366]

11 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

   That's not how that works at all. Some of the greatest coaches of all time didn't win at certain stops. They went to an organization that followed their business plan and that's where their career took off. Nebraska built a business model based on a plan that Tom Osborne had. Osborne's plan would've never flown at Texas, but Nebraska allowed him to do it. Alabama allowed Saban to over recruit and cut the guys who are lesser, and thus the Saban we now know was born. Kirby Smart walked into Georgia with that same plan. Get good players at any cost. They are doing that and now it looks like they may get a trophy.

  We approach football like Michigan does, and therefore we get Michigan like results. The only way the culture changes here is if someone like Saban comes and bullies the org, or the org finally has enough of losing and changes the way it approaches things.

That entire paragraph is bullshit. Is it your contention that Nebraska decided it no longer wanted to win after Osborne. Do you think USC decided after 4 "meh" coaches to support Carroll, only to reverse course after he left? Do you think the fans or athletic admin at Bama would have given a shit if the coaches before Saban decided to "over recruit and cut the guys who are lesser". Do you believe that UGA actively prohibited Richt from doing what Smart does today? I think the answer to each of those questions is "fuck no".

Coaches change the culture. 

[C-Man 26930]

yes, I think what we are saying is we'd be better off record wise had we kept Mack.  He probably would have turned in Herman like seasons and we would have avoided the Charlie 3 year losing season situation.  Mack was still a good enough recruiter, coach finder, and coach to get us 8-9 wins a year.  We wanted better and then Mack fucked us, Patterson fucked us, the Academics fucked us, and here we are.

Perhaps but I don’t think it would be as stark as you think and we’d have zero hardware to show for it. I think the record would’ve looked eerily like Herman’s, who didn’t win anything of note either save the Sugar Bowl outlier (that was a 4-loss team).

Remember Mack is the corch who left us a QB room headed by Ty Swoopes and couldn’t recruit an offensive lineman to save his life.

[Passive Aggressive Coach 87]

47 minutes ago, Texaspython said:

The people clamoring for Sark to be fired are the same people who thought it was smart to fire Mack. The lack of self awareness with some of you is astounding. 

LOL either time has clouded your memory or you don't know what you're talking about. Mack essentially was on vacation his last few yrs and had driven the team into the gutter. We didn't hire a good replacement. That was the issue but Mack had to go. UNC is starting to see that. 

[Had Enough 2033]

It’s important to point out how done Mack was in 2013.

Who gives a shit about his record or that he was playing for a title. It was about to crater.

In his final two games, we gave up 60 and scored 17. Seven of the points were on a crazy 10 play, 17 yard drive or something crazy like that. More interception return yards than passing yards. The offensive line had a shit ton of starts and all but Espinosa leaving. He was beginning to reach for recruits like Desmond Harrison. NFL guy you say. He had the maturity of a first grader and that’s why he washed out in record time. Our QB situation was not good. We had few playmakers on offense. Our RB was more ground it out than playmaker. The defense had good upper class talent, but there was limited depth. There wasn’t much depth anywhere.

Mack was done here.

[Texaspython 231]

1 minute ago, Passive Aggressive Coach said:

LOL either time has clouded your memory or you don't know what you're talking about. Mack essentially was on vacation his last few yrs and had driven the team into the gutter. We didn't hire a good replacement. That was the issue but Mack had to go. UNC is starting to see that. 

I knew it was a huge mistake then. You don’t fire an icon without a solid replacement. Firing Mack to appease the morons was/is a huge disaster. 

[WinningIsHard 4002]

6 minutes ago, utee94 said:

Alabama did the same thing until they hired Saban.  Oklahoma did the same thing until they hired Stoops.  This isn't unique to Texas.  Things keeps on sucking, until the right guy is hired.  

You know what those two teams have in common…Bryant and Switzer. Those two eras proved that those schools were willing to do whatever it takes to win. Down right seedy, shady, and cold blooded. You know what we won’t do still to this day? Commit to that kind of passion to win lol. Blame Mack, blame strong, blame herman, and now blame Sark. It’s all rinse and repeat. We want to be Oklahoma but if somebody opens our closet we don’t want the skeletons. It’s ridiculous. If we were any other mid tier school fan base we wouldn’t be talking crazy like this. We are who we are until we decide to cross that line. Mack should actually get more credit in all honesty for what he accomplished without the Georgia/bama infrastructure leading the way. Hell he may have ended up in hallowed ground like DKR, Bryant and saban if we had built the bag game during his tenure. 

[TwiceHorn 31084]

32 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

yes, I think what we are saying is we'd be better off record wise had we kept Mack.  He probably would have turned in Herman like seasons and we would have avoided the Charlie 3 year losing season situation.  Mack was still a good enough recruiter, coach finder, and coach to get us 8-9 wins a year.  We wanted better and then Mack fucked us, Patterson fucked us, the Academics fucked us, and here we are.

I dunno man.  I don't think he was recruiting very well at all. Everything was slipping.

[hobbes2702 12769]

32 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

and yet everyone on this site wants Sarkisian to bring in has many portal players as possible.

Yea we need better players to compete with the top of the conference. We aren’t losing by 30 to Iowa st solely because of players. The lack of adjustment and game to game improvement is staggering 

[David Dennison 18485]

18 minutes ago, utee94 said:

Alabama did the same thing until they hired Saban.  Oklahoma did the same thing until they hired Stoops.  This isn't unique to Texas.  Things keeps on sucking, until the right guy is hired.  

This.

[Revolution512 1465]

56 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

  You started a thread saying this is who he is after a few games in year one. This is an intelligent board not SECRant. We can all read the tea leaves.

Lol, wut?

[Thatguy 8393]

Just now, utee94 said:

Alabama did the same thing until they hired Saban.  Oklahoma did the same thing until they hired Stoops.  This isn't unique to Texas.  Things keeps on sucking, until the right guy is hired.  

  It's not the same at all. Those organizations allow their leaders to run the program. Win at all costs. Texas has never allowed what has gone on at those schools to fly here. Simple as that.

 

Just now, Blotto said:

That entire paragraph is bullshit. Is it your contention that Nebraska decided it no longer wanted to win after Osborne. Do you think USC decided after 4 "meh" coaches to support Carroll, only to reverse course after he left? Do you think the fans or athletic admin at Bama would have given a shit if the coaches before Saban decided to "over recruit and cut the guys who are lesser". Do you believe that UGA actively prohibited Richt from doing what Smart does today? I think the answer to each of those questions is "fuck no".

Coaches change the culture. 

   Nebraska had the rug pulled from under them with Prop 48 and has never recovered. USC was cheating and finally got busted. Before then USC was great because they were one of the first teams to play black athletes, and continued to have more black athletes than anyone else. We can do this all day, but Texas would've never allowed Osborne to recruit the players he did here. Same with what was happening at OU. Same with what Saban does. Same thing at Ohio State. We aren't them. We are Michigan, a school a tier down from them due to our belief structure and business model.

 

[Steelers Roll Left 1142]

Firing Mack was the right decision.  Pursuing Saban was the right decision.  The problem occurs when you swing for the fences and miss and have to fall back on Plan “B” up-and-comer types that long history of watching the sport proves is hit-or-miss with probably far more misses than hits in terms of living up to the hype coming out of “insert tier 2 or 3 job here”.  Pursuing Urban Meyer was the right decision, but the afore-mentioned problem reared it’s head again when you miss and that’s where we are now.  

[Thatguy 8393]

7 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

You know what those two teams have in common…Bryant and Switzer. Those two eras proved that those schools were willing to do whatever it takes to win. Down right seedy, shady, and cold blooded. You know what we won’t do still to this day? Commit to that kind of passion to win lol. Blame Mack, blame strong, blame herman, and now blame Sark. It’s all rinse and repeat. We want to be Oklahoma but if somebody opens our closet we don’t want the skeletons. It’s ridiculous. If we were any other mid tier school fan base we wouldn’t be talking crazy like this. We are who we are until we decide to cross that line. Mack should actually get more credit in all honesty for what he accomplished without the Georgia/bama infrastructure leading the way. Hell he may have ended up in hallowed ground like DKR, Bryant and saban if we had built the bag game during his tenure. 

Exactly 100% my point. We are Michigan.

[Blotto 23366]

4 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

You know what those two teams have in common…Bryant and Switzer. Those two eras proved that those schools were willing to do whatever it takes to win. Down right seedy, shady, and cold blooded. You know what we won’t do still to this day? Commit to that kind of passion to win lol. Blame Mack, blame strong, blame herman, and now blame Sark. It’s all rinse and repeat. We want to be Oklahoma but if somebody opens our closet we don’t want the skeletons. It’s ridiculous. If we were any other mid tier school fan base we wouldn’t be talking crazy like this. We are who we are until we decide to cross that line. Mack should actually get more credit in all honesty for what he accomplished without the Georgia/bama infrastructure leading the way. Hell he may have ended up in hallowed ground like DKR, Bryant and saban if we had built the bag game during his tenure. 

And yet OU struggled through the lost decade of Gibbs, Schnellenberger, and Blake. Bama struggled through Dubose, Fran, and Shula. What happened there? Oh yeah shitty coaches. 

 

[TwiceHorn 31084]

5 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

You know what those two teams have in common…Bryant and Switzer. Those two eras proved that those schools were willing to do whatever it takes to win. Down right seedy, shady, and cold blooded. You know what we won’t do still to this day? Commit to that kind of passion to win lol. Blame Mack, blame strong, blame herman, and now blame Sark. It’s all rinse and repeat. We want to be Oklahoma but if somebody opens our closet we don’t want the skeletons. It’s ridiculous. If we were any other mid tier school fan base we wouldn’t be talking crazy like this. We are who we are until we decide to cross that line. Mack should actually get more credit in all honesty for what he accomplished without the Georgia/bama infrastructure leading the way. Hell he may have ended up in hallowed ground like DKR, Bryant and saban if we had built the bag game during his tenure. 

Actually, I think Bud Wilkinson was even more rapacious than Switzer (and there was less penalty or opprobrium for it).  He pretty much made Oklahoma football.  Switzer carried it on and Stoops finally took up the mantle.

I have a tendency to think that most of the top winning programs are of the attitude of OU during the Wilkinson administration, which provoked OU President George Cross to tell the legislature that he was "trying to build a university of which the football team could be proud."

[Blotto 23366]

4 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

  It's not the same at all. Those organizations allow their leaders to run the program. Win at all costs. Texas has never allowed what has gone on at those schools to fly here. Simple as that.

 

   Nebraska had the rug pulled from under them with Prop 48 and has never recovered. USC was cheating and finally got busted. Before then USC was great because they were one of the first teams to play black athletes, and continued to have more black athletes than anyone else. We can do this all day, but Texas would've never allowed Osborne to recruit the players he did here. Same with what was happening at OU. Same with what Saban does. Same thing at Ohio State. We aren't them. We are Michigan, a school a tier down from them due to our belief structure and business model.

 

And yet when Mack was recruiting like a madman, we put up more wins that any other school (not named Boise St) in the '00 decade. We won one national title, would have one another without Colt getting hurt, and were a couple of bounces away from a shot at a couple of others. All of this with a second tier belief structure and business model. Makes complete sense to me. 

[Cajun 11671]

I was promised 7 wins!!!

Fuck the OP in the goat ass!

[hobbes2702 12769]

55 minutes ago, Texaspython said:

I’d say it more arrogant to criticize a coach without any substance. You’re mad we’re losing? Get over it. Actually watch what he’s trying to accomplish and if he’s got the tools to do it.

Without any substance? 

[David Dennison 18485]

17 minutes ago, WinningIsHard said:

You know what those two teams have in common…Bryant and Switzer. Those two eras proved that those schools were willing to do whatever it takes to win. Down right seedy, shady, and cold blooded. You know what we won’t do still to this day? Commit to that kind of passion to win lol. Blame Mack, blame strong, blame herman, and now blame Sark. It’s all rinse and repeat. We want to be Oklahoma but if somebody opens our closet we don’t want the skeletons. It’s ridiculous. If we were any other mid tier school fan base we wouldn’t be talking crazy like this. We are who we are until we decide to cross that line. Mack should actually get more credit in all honesty for what he accomplished without the Georgia/bama infrastructure leading the way. Hell he may have ended up in hallowed ground like DKR, Bryant and saban if we had built the bag game during his tenure. 

The University of Texas isn't interested in being Oklahoma.

 

[WinningIsHard 4002]

12 minutes ago, Blotto said:

And yet OU struggled through the lost decade of Gibbs, Schnellenberger, and Blake. Bama struggled through Dubose, Fran, and Shula. What happened there? Oh yeah shitty coaches. 

 

Struggled lol. From 1971-2021 they had 9 seasons where they won 7 or less games. You are a fuckin riot. 41 years of being pretty darn good. You think that’s because their coaching is just so gee golly gosh darn good. Stoops couldn’t win the big game if you stuck a gun in his mouth but he could work with the any piece of shit kid is ok to take coupled with the cheating ass system Oklahoma gave him and make a fucking remarkable career out of it. He was Mack brown with infrastructure. Christ 

[closetohumping 17354]

14 minutes ago, Blotto said:

And yet when Mack was recruiting like a madman, we put up more wins that any other school (not named Boise St) in the '00 decade. We won one national title, would have one another without Colt getting hurt, and were a couple of bounces away from a shot at a couple of others. All of this with a second tier belief structure and business model. Makes complete sense to me. 

The remarkable part is Mack did all of this while eating the peanuts outs of Bobs stools 

Edited November 7, 2021 by closetohumping

[WinningIsHard 4002]

God damn it I looked at Alabama and they are the same shit. Since 1971 they have had 9 seasons with 7 or fewer wins. 50 fucking years of staying in the top tier of programs. We are going on our 17th season in 50 years to win 7 games or less. Bama, Oklahoma and Texas…one of these things is not like the other.