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Since the downfall or USSR, America hasn't had an external demon to focus its energy on.  And as such, it has led to huge bifurcation of the American identity. But with the rise of Dictator Xi and his world domination ambitions, I have faith, America will be reunited again to defeat a common enemy. 
 

I am surprised he is able to hold on to China this rigidly. Are there are Machevillian up and comers in the Chinese Commy party who we can throw our support behind?

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Since the downfall or USSR, America hasn't had an external demon to focus its energy on.  And as such, it has led to huge bifurcation of the American identity. But with the rise of Dictator Xi and his world domination ambitions, I have faith, America will be reunited again to defeat a common enemy. 

This is painfully stupid. Has to be a bit.
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4 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

I am wanting know OP's native language.

English. 
 

 

6 hours ago, gmr548 said:


This is painfully stupid. Has to be a bit.

It wraps around the number scale. So its actually on the top of the genius range. 

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We had a cold war enemy coming right off the peak of American strength in WWII, where duty and selflessness mattered. It was a pretty easy transition into a state of vigilance and unity. Fast forward 70 years, and the children of the greatest generation have fucked this country seven ways from Sunday. Even if Xi did something obvious and unacceptable, like invading Taiwan while simultaneously nuking Japan, the people of this country wouldn't unite to do shit. 

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20 hours ago, remoh said:

Since the downfall or USSR, America hasn't had an external demon to focus its energy on.  And as such, it has led to huge bifurcation of the American identity. But with the rise of Dictator Xi and his world domination ambitions, I have faith, America will be reunited again to defeat a common enemy. 
 

Step No. 1, Xi kills dogs.

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China Left in Shock Following Brutal Killing of Corgi During Covid-19 Disinfection

Video of epidemic-prevention workers beating pet dog prompts outcry in country sticking with ‘Covid Zero’ policy

WARNING - description of brutal dog killing in spoiler from the WSJ. It's disturbing. 

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HONG KONG—The fatal beating of a pet corgi by epidemic prevention workers disinfecting a residential building linked to a Covid-19 outbreak in southeastern China has sparked outrage in China, leading some pet owners and animal rights activists to question the extent of China’s stringent pandemic-control measures.

On Friday, the corgi’s owner shared security footage showing her dog cowering behind a table as two people wearing hazmat suits walk toward it, with one brandishing an iron rod. As the two workers step past the dog’s cow-print bed, one of them hits the dog in the face with the rod as it tries to escape to the other room, after which it runs out of the frame.

In a video interview with a local media outlet, the dog’s owner, identified only by her surname Fu, said she witnessed the beating through an app on her phone connected to her home security camera and used a speaker embedded in the camera to beg the workers to leave her dog alone, but her pleas were ignored.

Ms. Fu said she heard the dog crying off camera and later saw the workers carrying a yellow bag away after the whimpers stopped. Blood could be seen on the ground afterward, she said.

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46 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

Step No. 1, Xi kills dogs.

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China Left in Shock Following Brutal Killing of Corgi During Covid-19 Disinfection

Video of epidemic-prevention workers beating pet dog prompts outcry in country sticking with ‘Covid Zero’ policy

WARNING - description of brutal dog killing in spoiler from the WSJ. It's disturbing. 

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HONG KONG—The fatal beating of a pet corgi by epidemic prevention workers disinfecting a residential building linked to a Covid-19 outbreak in southeastern China has sparked outrage in China, leading some pet owners and animal rights activists to question the extent of China’s stringent pandemic-control measures.

On Friday, the corgi’s owner shared security footage showing her dog cowering behind a table as two people wearing hazmat suits walk toward it, with one brandishing an iron rod. As the two workers step past the dog’s cow-print bed, one of them hits the dog in the face with the rod as it tries to escape to the other room, after which it runs out of the frame.

In a video interview with a local media outlet, the dog’s owner, identified only by her surname Fu, said she witnessed the beating through an app on her phone connected to her home security camera and used a speaker embedded in the camera to beg the workers to leave her dog alone, but her pleas were ignored.

Ms. Fu said she heard the dog crying off camera and later saw the workers carrying a yellow bag away after the whimpers stopped. Blood could be seen on the ground afterward, she said.

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Savage.

Actually, I in fact read this article yesterday right before I made the post. But somewhere my brain took off on a hate path (thinking of too many things wrong with Chinese Commy party) and conpletely forgot to link to this article. 
 

but thanks for bringing this context in. 

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To address the seriousness of the question, whether intended by the OP or not: 

We are in a Cold War with China over economic issues that raise national economic security issues. In turn, national economic security issues raise national security issues (as permitted by the Constitution). For instance, the primary rationale for militarily controlling sea lanes is to protect commerce. That's the Constitutional basis for the size of our military and its functions. There is nothing ignoble about this mission. The original idea is that the US would prosper as the hub of commerce for the world. That's not us anymore. You see we sold them everything they needed to replace us as the center of commerce. They have or will sometime this month.

So China becomes them. The war drums are beating from every side. Russia showing off satellite killing missiles. China flexing.

The easiest way for "them" to win is to stoke civil war in the U.S.

According to US Joint Cyber Command head under Obama and Trump, this was the threat that keeps him up at night. 

Looks like "they" are winning. What should we do? Perhaps stop leaning in to a civil war that only aids our enemy. 

War is failure.
 

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When AI learns that war is inhumane, we will be neutralized as parasites. so we all have that to look forward to . . . kidding, not kidding. 

Tool has a solution:

 

 

 

 

 

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One of the two dominant political parties in this country has embraced   letting a preventable virus kill its own voters in an effort to own the other party, and from the results of the November election, it seems to be working.

 

Maybe the a Chinese will do something super stupid, but why interrupt your enemy when they’re in the process of destroying themselves.

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27 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

China isn’t even on the radar screen rn.  

Drudge is blasting this as breaking news. 

We started breaking up with China under Obama with the Pivot, Trump lit the flames, and we are creeping towards a war footing. China and Russia are adding pressure, in our dumb as fuck brandon moment. This will feed the blood lust for war (and all of the accompanying risks that flow from the ignorant blood lusters). 

As for China and Russia - back the fuck off. We have a bunch of trigger happy Kyles and we are putting them on planes with genetically engineered snakes (and deadly self=replicating nanobots).  Fuck around and find out. 

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Here’s something people should know about China: when they pack off a Uyghur man to a gulag, the family left behind is forced to host a Han CCP cadre member in his place. Often, his wife has to share a bed. This isn’t some fever dream conspiracy, it even has an official CCP name: “Pair Up and Become Family.”

https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-international-news-prayer-weddings-occasions-9ca1c29fc9554c1697a8729bba4dd93b

This is the regime that our largest corporations fall over to placate and suckle from. 

 

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12 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

We had a cold war enemy coming right off the peak of American strength in WWII, where duty and selflessness mattered. It was a pretty easy transition into a state of vigilance and unity. Fast forward 70 years, and the children of the greatest generation have fucked this country seven ways from Sunday. Even if Xi did something obvious and unacceptable, like invading Taiwan while simultaneously nuking Japan, the people of this country wouldn't unite to do shit. 

Most Americans are sleepwalking. Reminds me of the effects one would see from Soma in Huxley's Brave New World

. . . that second dose of soma had raised a quite impenetrable wall between the actual universe and their minds.

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I highly recommend the 60 Minutes Australia linked above. 

First and foremost, the tone from the CCP Mouthpiece oozes belligerence. Remember the Golden Rule when listening and processing Chinese State Media, they project what they fear and they are cringe (same as it ever was).

This CCP mouthpiece threatens Australia with nuclear Armageddon because of the subs we sold then. And then he states how the world order will be if Australia bends the knee. The reward, China will not target Australian cities for destruction in a CCP invasion of Taiwan.  That is not helpful if one wants to avoid war. It's raw aggression and hubris. 

Second, the big worry for our allies is whether the US will go to Taiwan's aid. I have no doubt we would repel any attack on Taiwan. That is automatic. The Chinese know we have weapons they know nothing about that are specifically created for that battlespace. The risk of defense is attacks on US cities and our allies who join the Taiwanese defense. The ultimate risk is thermonuclear Armageddon

At this moment in this dance towards armed conflict, China is the initial aggressor. 

 

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On 11/15/2021 at 12:47 AM, remoh said:

Since the downfall or USSR, America hasn't had an external demon to focus its energy on.  And as such, it has led to huge bifurcation of the American identity. But with the rise of Dictator Xi and his world domination ambitions, I have faith, America will be reunited again to defeat a common enemy. 
 

I am surprised he is able to hold on to China this rigidly. Are there are Machevillian up and comers in the Chinese Commy party who we can throw our support behind?

The amount of Chinese-made consumer goods in American households makes me skeptical that this will happen.

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Nothing much happening on the China Front. 

Biden and Xi met in an emergency meeting Monday night in and effort to calm the road to war. That's a positive - if you are one of those Americans who doesn't like seeing US cities facing missile attacks at any moment. Just another day in the office, I suppose.

If you are one of those who have war lust. This pause allows our diplomates and The President to lay out our grievances. 

We fought WWII in the China-Burma-India Theater to save China and her people from aggressive imperialism. They have become what they hated. State capitalism is a hell of a drug, I suppose.

Our sore spots with China - with less drama and more facts - in the link. Reuters reporting on the US-China-Taiwan dangerous flare up  - the causes:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/factbox-top-pain-points-between-us-and-china-as-xi-biden-meet/ar-AAQI8YX

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden will hold an online meeting on Monday with Chinese leader Xi Jinping, the most extensive leader-level talks between the two nations under the Biden administration.

Officials on both sides have played down expectations for specific outcomes, amid an increasingly fractious relationship. Among the contentious issues are:

  1. Taiwan 
  2. China's ramp up of nuclear weapons and missiles
  3. Trade
  4. Tech
  5. Winter Olympics boycott by US
  6. Pandemic cooperation needed from China
  7. China's Belt and Road economic sphere v. US and G7's BBBW (Containment of aggressor)

Read it all at the link. There doesn't seem to be a paywall - for now.  It's a quick summary that will get you up to speed the wacky world we live in.

War is failure.

 

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2 hours ago, washparkhorn said:

If you are one of those who have war lust. 

Anybody who lusts for war with China is a fucking moron.

A war between the US and China, even if it doesn't reach the nuke stage, even if it stalemates quickly and military action stops/calms, means the end of trading between both countries for quite a long time, as in years.

That destroys the economies of both countries.  Whose economy would suffer more, hard to say, but it's going to fuck up both countries, and most of the civilized world, although US companies have been shifting a lot of manufacturing outside of China. 

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China stops getting orders from America, hundreds of millions of Chinese lose their jobs and end up in the streets.

How does that play out for Xi?  We all love history, and history seems to always point to really bad things happening for the people in power when the economy completely goes in the shitter and the people are in the streets without jobs and potentially without food, etc.

China's military will have to turn inward really fucking fast to deal with unrest on that scale, and I'm not so sure that they can.

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49 minutes ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

If their impending real estate crisis goes poorly and internal unrest over the economy hits a head, scary things might be in the future. One of the classic ways to deal with massive internal unrest is to find an external enemy. 

Massive internal unrest takes on a new meaning with 1.4 billion people.

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Did you miss the part where half the country's voters worship a man who loves dictators? The second Biden says anything against China, they'll love China. The merits of any issue means nothing anymore. They have embraced a fucking viral pandemic just to fuck with the other side. It's pathetic.

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Secretive Chinese Committee Draws Up List to Replace U.S. Tech
2021-11-16 21:00:00.0 GMT

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(Bloomberg) -- China is accelerating plans to replace
American and foreign technology, quietly empowering a secretive
government-backed organization to vet and approve local
suppliers in sensitive areas from cloud to semiconductors,
people familiar with the matter said. 
Formed in 2016 to advise the government, the Information
Technology Application Innovation Working Committee has now been
entrusted by Beijing to help set industry standards and train
personnel to operate trusted software. The quasi-government body
will devise and execute the so-called “IT Application
Innovation” plan, better known as Xinchuang in Chinese. It will
choose from a basket of suppliers vetted under the plan to
provide technology for sensitive sectors from banking to data
centers storing government data, a market that could be worth
$125 billion by 2025. 
So far, 1,800 Chinese suppliers of PCs, chips, networking
and software have been invited to join the committee, the people
said, asking not to be identified discussing private
information. The organization has so far certified hundreds of
local companies this year as committee members, the fastest pace
in years, one of the people said. 
The existence of the Xinchuang white-list, whose members
and over-arching goals haven’t been previously reported, is
likely to inflame tensions just as Presidents Joe Biden and Xi
Jinping wrapped up their first face-to-face virtual summit. It
gives Beijing more leverage to replace foreign tech firms in
sensitive sectors and quickens a push to help local champions
achieve tech self-sufficiency and overcome sanctions first
imposed by the Trump administration in fields like networking
and chips.   
China is trying to develop homegrown technologies,” said
Dan Wang, technology analyst at Gavekal Dragonomics. “This
effort is more serious now that many more domestic firms now
share that political goal, since no one can be sure that U.S.
technologies can avoid U.S. export controls.”
Read more: Huawei Recruits Smartphone Partners to Sidestep
U.S. Sanctions
The push to replace foreign suppliers is part of a broader
effort by Beijing to exert control over its sprawling technology
industry, including over data security. Already, the government
has forced overseas cloud providers such as Amazon Web Services
and Microsoft Corp. to set up joint ventures to operate on the
mainland. Apple Inc. has also yielded its user data storage
business to a government-backed operator in Guizhou. The grip is
set to tighten, as the tech industry ministry gains more
oversight of industrial and telecom data and proposes new rules
that will require crucial data to be stored inside the country.
While few details have been revealed about the Xinchuang
committee or its members, any companies that are more than 25%
foreign-owned will be excluded from the panel, shutting out
overseas suppliers including Intel Corp. and Microsoft. Chinese
tech startups that are primarily funded by foreign investment
will also face a higher bar, though Alibaba Group Holding Ltd.
and Tencent Holdings Ltd., the country’s two largest providers
of cloud services, have managed to circumvent those rules by
applying for membership through locally incorporated
subsidiaries, the people said.
“U.S. choke-hold policies, exemplified by the Entity List,
were the direct catalyst that pushed China to build the
Xinchuang sector,” Shanghai-based research firm iResearch said
in a report in July. “The blacklisting underlined the urgency
for China to invest more in technology innovation and have the
key technologies made in China.”
Blacklists, Trade and More U.S.-China Flashpoints:
QuickTake
The Ministry of Industry and Information Technology and the
China Electronics Standardization Association, which oversees
the committee, didn’t respond to requests for comment. Alibaba
representatives didn’t immediately respond to a written request
seeking comment. A Tencent spokesperson declined to comment.
The committee had 1,160 members in July 2020, according to
Netis, a cloud company that claimed it passed a complex review
process. Other prominent companies include Beijing-based CPU
maker Loongson, server maker Inspur and operating systems
developer Standard Software. Westone, an information security
company that could potentially be tasked by Beijing to take over
Didi Global Inc.’s data management, is also a member.
*T
================================================================
China’s champions | Overseas counterparts
================================================================
Huawei |Ericsson, Nokia
Inspur |Intel, HP, Dell
Loongson |Intel, AMD
Alibaba, Tencent |AWS, Azure
Qi An Xin |FireEye, Palo Alto Networks
*T
Membership on the panel could give local suppliers a key
advantage in having their technology approved under the
Xinchuang plan, thus unlocking a billion-dollar market.
Xinchuang-related business generated 162 billion yuan ($25
billion) in sales last year and is on track to reach nearly 800
billion yuan by 2025, according to a report co-authored by the
China Software Industry Association. 
“In every sector of the Xinchuang industry, there’s a
significant imbalance between supply and demand,” it said.
“Suppliers need to press the gas pedal to the floor in order to
meet the demand.”
In September, the Xinhua-backed Economic Information Daily
newspaper listed 40 top performers of the Xinchuang project,
which included Huawei Technologies Co., Alibaba’s cloud unit and
network security company Qi An Xin Technology Group Inc. In an
April list of 70 model cases in the Xinchuang industry, the
Ministry of Industry and Information Technology praised
Alibaba’s “100% self-developed” cloud platform for “providing a
safe, trustworthy digital infrastructure for all levels of
governments.”
Communist Party entities, the government and military will
be the first to adopt Xinchuang products, followed by financial
and state-owned companies, according to iResearch.
“Xinchuang can’t be built in one day, it’s a long-term
strategy that helps China grow its own IT technologies,” the
report said.

 

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44 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

Secretive Chinese Committee Draws Up List to Replace U.S. Tech
2021-11-16 21:00:00.0 GMT

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(Bloomberg) -- China is accelerating plans to replace
American and foreign technology, quietly empowering a secretive
government-backed organization to vet and approve local
suppliers in sensitive areas from cloud to semiconductors,
people familiar with the matter said. 
Formed in 2016 to advise the government, the Information
Technology Application Innovation Working Committee has now been
entrusted by Beijing to help set industry standards and train
personnel to operate trusted software. The quasi-government body
will devise and execute the so-called “IT Application
Innovation” plan, better known as Xinchuang in Chinese. It will
choose from a basket of suppliers vetted under the plan to
provide technology for sensitive sectors from banking to data
centers storing government data, a market that could be worth
$125 billion by 2025. 
So far, 1,800 Chinese suppliers of PCs, chips, networking
and software have been invited to join the committee, the people
said, asking not to be identified discussing private
information. The organization has so far certified hundreds of
local companies this year as committee members, the fastest pace
in years, one of the people said. 
The existence of the Xinchuang white-list, whose members
and over-arching goals haven’t been previously reported, is
likely to inflame tensions just as Presidents Joe Biden and Xi
Jinping wrapped up their first face-to-face virtual summit. It
gives Beijing more leverage to replace foreign tech firms in
sensitive sectors and quickens a push to help local champions
achieve tech self-sufficiency and overcome sanctions first
imposed by the Trump administration in fields like networking
and chips.   
China is trying to develop homegrown technologies,” said
Dan Wang, technology analyst at Gavekal Dragonomics. “This
effort is more serious now that many more domestic firms now
share that political goal, since no one can be sure that U.S.
technologies can avoid U.S. export controls.”
Read more: Huawei Recruits Smartphone Partners to Sidestep
U.S. Sanctions
The push to replace foreign suppliers is part of a broader
effort by Beijing to exert control over its sprawling technology
industry, including over data security. Already, the government
has forced overseas cloud providers such as Amazon Web Services
and Microsoft Corp. to set up joint ventures to operate on the
mainland. Apple Inc. has also yielded its user data storage
business to a government-backed operator in Guizhou. The grip is
set to tighten, as the tech industry ministry gains more
oversight of industrial and telecom data and proposes new rules
that will require crucial data to be stored inside the country.
While few details have been revealed about the Xinchuang
committee or its members, any companies that are more than 25%
foreign-owned will be excluded from the panel, shutting out
overseas suppliers including Intel Corp. and Microsoft. Chinese
tech startups that are primarily funded by foreign investment
will also face a higher bar, though Alibaba Group Holding Ltd.
and Tencent Holdings Ltd., the country’s two largest providers
of cloud services, have managed to circumvent those rules by
applying for membership through locally incorporated
subsidiaries, the people said.
“U.S. choke-hold policies, exemplified by the Entity List,
were the direct catalyst that pushed China to build the
Xinchuang sector,” Shanghai-based research firm iResearch said
in a report in July. “The blacklisting underlined the urgency
for China to invest more in technology innovation and have the
key technologies made in China.”
Blacklists, Trade and More U.S.-China Flashpoints:
QuickTake
The Ministry of Industry and Information Technology and the
China Electronics Standardization Association, which oversees
the committee, didn’t respond to requests for comment. Alibaba
representatives didn’t immediately respond to a written request
seeking comment. A Tencent spokesperson declined to comment.
The committee had 1,160 members in July 2020, according to
Netis, a cloud company that claimed it passed a complex review
process. Other prominent companies include Beijing-based CPU
maker Loongson, server maker Inspur and operating systems
developer Standard Software. Westone, an information security
company that could potentially be tasked by Beijing to take over
Didi Global Inc.’s data management, is also a member.
*T
================================================================
China’s champions | Overseas counterparts
================================================================
Huawei |Ericsson, Nokia
Inspur |Intel, HP, Dell
Loongson |Intel, AMD
Alibaba, Tencent |AWS, Azure
Qi An Xin |FireEye, Palo Alto Networks
*T
Membership on the panel could give local suppliers a key
advantage in having their technology approved under the
Xinchuang plan, thus unlocking a billion-dollar market.
Xinchuang-related business generated 162 billion yuan ($25
billion) in sales last year and is on track to reach nearly 800
billion yuan by 2025, according to a report co-authored by the
China Software Industry Association. 
“In every sector of the Xinchuang industry, there’s a
significant imbalance between supply and demand,” it said.
“Suppliers need to press the gas pedal to the floor in order to
meet the demand.”
In September, the Xinhua-backed Economic Information Daily
newspaper listed 40 top performers of the Xinchuang project,
which included Huawei Technologies Co., Alibaba’s cloud unit and
network security company Qi An Xin Technology Group Inc. In an
April list of 70 model cases in the Xinchuang industry, the
Ministry of Industry and Information Technology praised
Alibaba’s “100% self-developed” cloud platform for “providing a
safe, trustworthy digital infrastructure for all levels of
governments.”
Communist Party entities, the government and military will
be the first to adopt Xinchuang products, followed by financial
and state-owned companies, according to iResearch.
“Xinchuang can’t be built in one day, it’s a long-term
strategy that helps China grow its own IT technologies,” the
report said.

 

Common sense shit we should have been doing ourselves 15-20 years ago. In every fucking field. 

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1 hour ago, Fastbreak said:

Imagine being the mid-level boss of this operation.

“Today I need you to go over to that house on Smith Street and beat their dog to death with an iron pipe.”

“Sure thing boss. Want me to pick you up some lunch on the way back to the office!?”

Why would I want to imagine being a cop?

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On 11/17/2021 at 10:37 AM, SydneyCarton said:

Common sense shit we should have been doing ourselves 15-20 years ago. In every fucking field. 

This should be a bit disconcerting if you were one of the people who was saying, "There's no way the U.S. and China would go to war because they depend too much on one another for trade ..."  Granted, this is apparently just for tech, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were making similar plans for grains, oil & gas and other top imports from the U.S.  

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1 hour ago, Gap03 said:

This should be a bit disconcerting if you were one of the people who was saying, "There's no way the U.S. and China would go to war because they depend too much on one another for trade ..."  Granted, this is apparently just for tech, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were making similar plans for grains, oil & gas and other top imports from the U.S.  

It would absolutely be disconcerting if they somehow divorced themselves of relying on any outside country for food, energy, materials, etc. but a shooting war would still devastate them and their economy, because their economy is still not that hard to shut down.  They rely too much on shipping and international trade.  Their population centers are also far too vulnerable to things like having power stations hit.

A lot of these current moves feel like responses to either American/European companies moving their tech stuff elsewhere for cost reasons, or those countries putting restrictions on what can be manufactured elsewhere.  US and European companies have been moving their manufacturing here and there to other countries - Vietnam, etc., and what happens if the US could fully tap into a place like Brazil?  Faster/closer/cheaper shipping.

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