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And a good day to you too, sir.
If you want to experience a small slice of the shit women deal with every day, tell people you don’t like Inception, and some middlebrow type will pop out of nowhere and start explaining Inception. 

Sure, it doesn’t help that Hans Zimmer decided to make the Oboe player the Oppenheimer of the woodwind section, but Inception didn’t suck because Hans Zimmerman is a bad composer.
Inception sucked because at some point after the Prestige, Christopher Nolan apparently lost whatever trust he had in the audience to understand movies based on the combination of moving images and realistic dialogue between well developed characters. 
As a result, he uses expository dialogue and music the way less gifted directors use voiceovers: as a substitute for competent narrative filmmaking, which in turn makes him a little lazy in terms of pacing and plot points. 
Consequently, Inception drowns in self-evidence. Basically, the shouting ruins the visuals. It’s like porn for the blind, as described by Frankie MacDonald, cue Oboes on the money shot:
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

That is a lucid, well-thought, intelligent objection. Post less.

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Upon release, 15 years ago, the main criticism of the movie from some movie goers and critics was that it was confusing and lacked emotional depth.

Now, because people have analyzed it and watched it online with subtitles it has too much exposition. So, which is it?

Nolan is not David Lynch. He doesnt have to make it Dark City. It’s not that kind of movie. And it doesnt have to be.

I guess the analogy of your criticism of Hans Zimmer and Nolan is like criticism of Led Zeppelin by punk artists of the 70’s. Hey its too good. The singer is too this. The drum solo is too this. Whats the point except that other artists should be able to do other things?
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34 minutes ago, Drew said:

Wait inception is a bad movie?

Inception aged into kitsch around the edges (and is by no means as schlocky as bozo is trying to characterize it as) and even still, it's better than Oppenheimer. Oppenheimer is entirely overrated for my tastes. 

That said, I am looking forward to Nolan's treatment of The Odyssey which I saw a quick ad for this weekend, starring Spiderman and The Punisher.

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On 7/1/2025 at 6:44 PM, Bozo_Casanova said:

And a good day to you too, sir.

If you want to experience a small slice of the shit women deal with every day, tell people you don’t like Inception, and some middlebrow type will pop out of nowhere and start explaining Inception. 


Sure, it doesn’t help that Hans Zimmer decided to make the Oboe player the Oppenheimer of the woodwind section, but Inception didn’t suck because Hans Zimmerman is a bad composer.
Inception sucked because at some point after the Prestige, Christopher Nolan apparently lost whatever trust he had in the audience to understand movies based on the combination of moving images and realistic dialogue between well developed characters. 
As a result, he uses expository dialogue and music the way less gifted directors use voiceovers: as a substitute for competent narrative filmmaking, which in turn makes him a little lazy in terms of pacing and plot points. 

Consequently, Inception drowns in self-evidence. Basically, the shouting ruins the visuals. It’s like porn for the blind, as described by Frankie MacDonald, cue Oboes on the money shot:

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

The prestige is fucking loaded with exposition lol. 

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1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said:

The prestige is fucking loaded with exposition lol. 

Look at the big brains on Brad!

3 hours ago, Eskimohorn said:

Upon release, 15 years ago, the main criticism of the movie from some movie goers and critics was that it was confusing and lacked emotional depth.

Now, because people have analyzed it and watched it online with subtitles it has too much exposition. So, which is it?

I have no idea what people think now. I saw Inception when it came out, and I have no idea how anyone could have been “confused” when 80% of the dialogue is just characters explaining what’s happening while looking into the camera. I agree on the lack of depth, though. Elliot Page’s performance made Pinocchio seem like a real boy. 
 

2 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

Inception aged into kitsch around the edges (and is by no means as schlocky as bozo is trying to characterize it as) and even still, it's better than Oppenheimer. Oppenheimer is entirely overrated for my tastes.

Inception is by far his worst movie in my opinion, but agree that Oppenheimer is way overrated. Greta Gerwig was able to make Barbie into a sharp critique of feminism without preaching, but Christopher Nolan felt like he had to mansplain the moral complexity of BUILDING THE ATOMIC BOMB.

2 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

That said, I am looking forward to Nolan's treatment of The Odyssey which I saw a quick ad for this weekend, starring Spiderman and The Punisher.

Agreed. Look, Christopher Nolan is an exceptional filmmaker when he trusts the audience to understand or at least follow the story- ie Dunkirk, Dark Night, Momento, The Prestige. 

The Odyssey shares key elements with those stories AND the text shows how a narrative voice can blend with a voice of the main character. 
Im excited!

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1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Look at the big brains on Brad!

I have no idea what people think now. I saw Inception when it came out, and I have no idea how anyone could have been “confused” when 80% of the dialogue is just characters explaining what’s happening while looking into the camera. I agree on the lack of depth, though. Elliot Page’s performance made Pinocchio seem like a real boy. 
 

Inception is by far his worst movie in my opinion, but agree that Oppenheimer is way overrated. Greta Gerwig was able to make Barbie into a sharp critique of feminism without preaching, but Christopher Nolan felt like he had to mansplain the moral complexity of BUILDING THE ATOMIC BOMB.

Agreed. Look, Christopher Nolan is an exceptional filmmaker when he trusts the audience to understand or at least follow the story- ie Dunkirk, Dark Night, Momento, The Prestige. 

The Odyssey shares key elements with those stories AND the text shows how a narrative voice can blend with a voice of the main character. 
Im excited!

I actually thought Dunkirk was rather boring.

Prestige is his best movie and Batman Begins is the best of the Batman trilogy, by a wide margin. The Dark Knight was only iconic because of Heath Ledger's Joker.

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I actually thought Dunkirk was rather boring.
Prestige is his best movie and Batman Begins is the best of the Batman trilogy, by a wide margin. The Dark Knight was only iconic because of Heath Ledger's Joker.

2005 Texas was only good because of VY, so they weren’t really that good.
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6 minutes ago, Stringer said:


2005 Texas was only good because of VY, so they weren’t really that good.

I get what point you are trying to make, but the 2005 Texas roster had like 11 of the 22 players make an impact in the NFL, you dolt.

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I enjoyed Oppenheimer, but there was just way too much "Nuclear was is bad, mmmhhmmkay."

The Prestige was a little too proud of itself. 

Momento was fantastic as was thr Dark Knight. 

Dunkirk was good but felt a little heavy handed to me but I still enjoyed it.

I liked Inception as it was an interesting idea, but it wasn't a great film. 

I truly enjoy Nolan's work in the broad strokes. He has a fun interesting approach to film in all aspects but he does lean a little heavy towards people are really stupid. Sadly.. while it diminishes some of his films, he's not wrong.

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Agreed. Look, Christopher Nolan is an exceptional filmmaker when he trusts the audience to understand or at least follow the story- ie Dunkirk, Dark Night, Momento, The Prestige. 
The Odyssey shares key elements with those stories AND the text shows how a narrative voice can blend with a voice of the main character. 
Im excited!

We’re so glad that you are so smart that upon leaving the theater in 2010, you thought Inception was too simple.

Inception is part heist movie. I guess you like heist movies where the filmmakers don’t clue the audience in on the planning process. We just see random dudes watching a building and breaking into random rooms and cutting wires and shit. A whole hour of a Jake Gittes-like characters just tailing people with no soundtrack. Ocean’s 11 would have been 15 minutes.

In other words, Inception would have been completely incomprehensible to all of us mids, who never read our Descartes.
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I enjoyed Oppenheimer, but there was just way too much "Nuclear was is bad, mmmhhmmkay."
The Prestige was a little too proud of itself. 
Momento was fantastic as was thr Dark Knight. 
Dunkirk was good but felt a little heavy handed to me but I still enjoyed it.
I liked Inception as it was an interesting idea, but it wasn't a great film. 
I truly enjoy Nolan's work in the broad strokes. He has a fun interesting approach to film in all aspects but he does lean a little heavy towards people are really stupid. Sadly.. while it diminishes some of his films, he's not wrong.

You are completely right. We really needed more horseback riding and pipe smoking featured and less nuclear bombs in the movie about Oppenheimer.

I really wish you people would share which films we’re missing out on that put Nolan movies to shame.
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47 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:


You are completely right. We really needed more horseback riding and pipe smoking featured and less nuclear bombs in the movie about Oppenheimer.

I really wish you people would share which films we’re missing out on that put Nolan movies to shame.

So, prior to watching Oppenheimer you were completely unaware that Nuclear War was bad? 

That tracks.

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7 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

The prestige is fucking loaded with exposition lol. 

Yeah I don't think that the Prestige explains itself any less than Inception. 

6 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

shocked steve harvey GIF

It's a joke. 

Well it's kind of a joke. 

 

As far as ranking the Nolan shit it's kind of tired and uninteresting at this point but Oppenheimer, TDK and The Prestige make up my top 3 with Inception somewhere in the next tier. 

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11 minutes ago, mchookem said:

it's like y'all forgot Interstellar even exists!

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I like Interstellar. I think it's a tad overrated.

What are your thoughts on Inception?

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So, prior to watching Oppenheimer you were completely unaware that Nuclear War was bad? 
That tracks.

One criticism is that it didnt spend enough time on the horrors of nuclear weapons or the toll on scientists experimenting with radioactive materials. Or, the government extracting land from the natives or the impact on them.

How long should Nolan have spent on other things? And you say they spent too much time talking about nuclear weapons. Your viewpoint is even less relevant and superficial than others who criticize what the movie missed. At least they have a point.
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2 hours ago, Eskimohorn said:


One criticism is that it didnt spend enough time on the horrors of nuclear weapons or the toll on scientists experimenting with radioactive materials. Or, the government extracting land from the natives or the impact on them.

How long should Nolan have spent on other things? And you say they spent too much time talking about nuclear weapons. Your viewpoint is even less relevant and superficial than others who criticize what the movie missed. At least they have a point.

That's not what I was talking about. 

Explaining it you is a waste of time and key stokes. You've always made it clear in every thread that anyone who disagrees with your opinion is factually wrong despite opinions being subjective. You're not in these threads to discuss opinions nor your thoughts on movies, you come in here to tell people why they're stupid and have bad opinions. 

It's super cool and productive.

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That's not what I was talking about. 
Explaining it you is a waste of time and key stokes. You've always made it clear in every thread that anyone who disagrees with your opinion is factually wrong despite opinions being subjective. You're not in these threads to discuss opinions nor your thoughts on movies, you come in here to tell people why they're stupid and have bad opinions. 
It's super cool and productive.

You throw grenades like “Oppenheimer repeated too much on nuclear war being bad” and “The Prestige is too proud of itself” dont be surprised if you get some grenades thrown back if you are unable to defend those positions.

One premise of Oppenheimer is how does an ethical man who wants to do good by science and his country betray his ideals, his country, his wife and build the most dangerous weapon known to man. Then continue to try to maintain control over it. Its the Frankenstein’s monster theme and as relevant today as it was at the start of the industrial revolution.

Then a whole third of the movie deals with revenge and ego, for which RDJ won a much deserved Oscar. It demonstrates the how of nuclear proliferation given that decisions are made for selfish reasons and men driven by ambition.

A little bit more complicated than the movie repeating the dangers of nuclear war.

No offense, but sometimes we need to stay in our own lanes.
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I'm starting to realize some of you think way too much.

 

And that EVERY movie that is liked is OVERRATED.

 

And will say some boring movie that somehow the Oscars loves, is some great movie while shitting on Interstellar and Oppenheimer in the same post. Just crazy

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Tenet is the answer.  That was complete dogshit.  His other films have some hit or miss qualities depending on personal taste, but even if you say it wasn't for you, you can still see redeemable qualities.  Tenet is his only unredeemable complete dog shit of a movie

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