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And a good day to you too, sir.
If you want to experience a small slice of the shit women deal with every day, tell people you don’t like Inception, and some middlebrow type will pop out of nowhere and start explaining Inception. 

Sure, it doesn’t help that Hans Zimmer decided to make the Oboe player the Oppenheimer of the woodwind section, but Inception didn’t suck because Hans Zimmerman is a bad composer.
Inception sucked because at some point after the Prestige, Christopher Nolan apparently lost whatever trust he had in the audience to understand movies based on the combination of moving images and realistic dialogue between well developed characters. 
As a result, he uses expository dialogue and music the way less gifted directors use voiceovers: as a substitute for competent narrative filmmaking, which in turn makes him a little lazy in terms of pacing and plot points. 
Consequently, Inception drowns in self-evidence. Basically, the shouting ruins the visuals. It’s like porn for the blind, as described by Frankie MacDonald, cue Oboes on the money shot:
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

That is a lucid, well-thought, intelligent objection. Post less.

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Upon release, 15 years ago, the main criticism of the movie from some movie goers and critics was that it was confusing and lacked emotional depth.

Now, because people have analyzed it and watched it online with subtitles it has too much exposition. So, which is it?

Nolan is not David Lynch. He doesnt have to make it Dark City. It’s not that kind of movie. And it doesnt have to be.

I guess the analogy of your criticism of Hans Zimmer and Nolan is like criticism of Led Zeppelin by punk artists of the 70’s. Hey its too good. The singer is too this. The drum solo is too this. Whats the point except that other artists should be able to do other things?
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34 minutes ago, Drew said:

Wait inception is a bad movie?

Inception aged into kitsch around the edges (and is by no means as schlocky as bozo is trying to characterize it as) and even still, it's better than Oppenheimer. Oppenheimer is entirely overrated for my tastes. 

That said, I am looking forward to Nolan's treatment of The Odyssey which I saw a quick ad for this weekend, starring Spiderman and The Punisher.

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On 7/1/2025 at 6:44 PM, Bozo_Casanova said:

And a good day to you too, sir.

If you want to experience a small slice of the shit women deal with every day, tell people you don’t like Inception, and some middlebrow type will pop out of nowhere and start explaining Inception. 


Sure, it doesn’t help that Hans Zimmer decided to make the Oboe player the Oppenheimer of the woodwind section, but Inception didn’t suck because Hans Zimmerman is a bad composer.
Inception sucked because at some point after the Prestige, Christopher Nolan apparently lost whatever trust he had in the audience to understand movies based on the combination of moving images and realistic dialogue between well developed characters. 
As a result, he uses expository dialogue and music the way less gifted directors use voiceovers: as a substitute for competent narrative filmmaking, which in turn makes him a little lazy in terms of pacing and plot points. 

Consequently, Inception drowns in self-evidence. Basically, the shouting ruins the visuals. It’s like porn for the blind, as described by Frankie MacDonald, cue Oboes on the money shot:

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

The prestige is fucking loaded with exposition lol. 

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1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said:

The prestige is fucking loaded with exposition lol. 

Look at the big brains on Brad!

3 hours ago, Eskimohorn said:

Upon release, 15 years ago, the main criticism of the movie from some movie goers and critics was that it was confusing and lacked emotional depth.

Now, because people have analyzed it and watched it online with subtitles it has too much exposition. So, which is it?

I have no idea what people think now. I saw Inception when it came out, and I have no idea how anyone could have been “confused” when 80% of the dialogue is just characters explaining what’s happening while looking into the camera. I agree on the lack of depth, though. Elliot Page’s performance made Pinocchio seem like a real boy. 
 

2 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

Inception aged into kitsch around the edges (and is by no means as schlocky as bozo is trying to characterize it as) and even still, it's better than Oppenheimer. Oppenheimer is entirely overrated for my tastes.

Inception is by far his worst movie in my opinion, but agree that Oppenheimer is way overrated. Greta Gerwig was able to make Barbie into a sharp critique of feminism without preaching, but Christopher Nolan felt like he had to mansplain the moral complexity of BUILDING THE ATOMIC BOMB.

2 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

That said, I am looking forward to Nolan's treatment of The Odyssey which I saw a quick ad for this weekend, starring Spiderman and The Punisher.

Agreed. Look, Christopher Nolan is an exceptional filmmaker when he trusts the audience to understand or at least follow the story- ie Dunkirk, Dark Night, Momento, The Prestige. 

The Odyssey shares key elements with those stories AND the text shows how a narrative voice can blend with a voice of the main character. 
Im excited!

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1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Look at the big brains on Brad!

I have no idea what people think now. I saw Inception when it came out, and I have no idea how anyone could have been “confused” when 80% of the dialogue is just characters explaining what’s happening while looking into the camera. I agree on the lack of depth, though. Elliot Page’s performance made Pinocchio seem like a real boy. 
 

Inception is by far his worst movie in my opinion, but agree that Oppenheimer is way overrated. Greta Gerwig was able to make Barbie into a sharp critique of feminism without preaching, but Christopher Nolan felt like he had to mansplain the moral complexity of BUILDING THE ATOMIC BOMB.

Agreed. Look, Christopher Nolan is an exceptional filmmaker when he trusts the audience to understand or at least follow the story- ie Dunkirk, Dark Night, Momento, The Prestige. 

The Odyssey shares key elements with those stories AND the text shows how a narrative voice can blend with a voice of the main character. 
Im excited!

I actually thought Dunkirk was rather boring.

Prestige is his best movie and Batman Begins is the best of the Batman trilogy, by a wide margin. The Dark Knight was only iconic because of Heath Ledger's Joker.

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