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Posted
2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Yea Right GIF

 

Will Howard is playing QB better than Quinn Ewers this year. He throws better balls down field with accuracy and placement consistently. Quinn does make these throws but he doesn't consistently do it especially on the deeper stuff. 

 

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Couldn't be the receivers though right? Not like we have Will Howard prior to Ohio State to compare to right? Or Quinn Ewers with better receivers last year.

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Just now, Thatguy said:

Couldn't be the receivers though right? Not like we have Will Howard prior to Ohio State to compare to right? Or Quinn Ewers with better receivers last year.

Do receivers have control of where QB puts the ball? Maybe Quinn should just put the ball on receivers instead of underthrowing them or throwing behind them.

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Ok you want me to pull up Clemson's receivers? 5:10 mark

 

 

I have seen Wingo make contested catches. Your rebuttal is Wesco caught a tipped ball. You are really trying too hard to shit on Texas players. How many 50/50 ball opportunities do you think Wingo has had? Take out the PIs, because those are obviously positive plays for the offense.

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Posted (edited)
20 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I have seen Wingo make contested catches. Your rebuttal is Wesco caught a tipped ball. You are really trying too hard to shit on Texas players. How many 50/50 ball opportunities do you think Wingo has had? Take out the PIs, because those are obviously positive plays for the offense.

Wingo 10 contested targets, 4 contested catches(40%) - 46  total targets
Wesco 16 contested targets, 7 contested catches(43.8%) - 73 total targets | TJ Moore 19 contested targets, 7 contested catches(36.8%) - 71 total targets
Smith 19 contested targets, 11 contested catches(57.9%) - 85 total targets
Williams 13 contested targets, 7 contested catches(53.8%) - 79 total targets
TJ

The best freshmen at contested catches in p4 is Nick Marsh at Michigan St
Marsh 11 contested targets, 7 contested catches(63.6%) - 62 total targets

 

 

Wingo is in line with the Clemson receivers in terms of contested catch percentage while having 25 fewer targets overall.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Wingo 10 contested targets, 4 contested catches(40%)
Wesco 16 contested targets, 7 contested catches(43.8%)
Smith 19 contested targets, 11 contested catches(57.9%)
 

 

not much to take from that between Wesco and Wingo. Neither are seeing the best CB and Wingo is likely seeing a higher level of CB play (based on the last 10 years of drafting).

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5 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

not much to take from that between Wesco and Wingo. Neither are seeing the best CB and Wingo is likely seeing a higher level of CB play (based on the last 10 years of drafting).

I added some extra information in there in terms of total targets and a few more guys. 

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3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I added some extra information in there in terms of total targets and a few more guys. 

These guys are all very young and the sample sizes are all pretty small to take much from this. We dont when these happened, if there is a trend, or what type of talent they made the catches against.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Are we still shitting on Ewers or have we moved on to Wingo?

I don’t want to look like an idiot here.

 

Depends, I choose to spread the blame around and not lay it all at the feet of the starting QB.

Although we have a talented receiver room, we have exactly one of those guys to meet or exceed expectations. The two most explosive playmakers on the offense have either been hurt or a non factor(turnover machine) for the toughest stretch of the schedule. But, but but the QB. Many might argue that Baxter would have been another potentially explosive playmaker but we haven't seen him either. If people would take a step back and actually analyze the root causes and contributing factors they will find and admit that this isn't just a QB problem.

Funny how people want Arch to come in in RZ because he is a run threat. That alone should give them the clue they are looking for. The statistics for the run game in losses and RZ for the entire year tell you where the problem lies. It's up to the HC/OC to figure it out. Based on what I saw against Clemson, I think he did but some of you probably didn't even realize what changes were made.

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14 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Depends, I choose to spread the blame around and not lay it all at the feet of the starting QB.

Although we have a talented receiver room, we have exactly one of those guys to meet or exceed expectations. The two most explosive playmakers on the offense have either been hurt or a non factor(turnover machine) for the toughest stretch of the schedule. But, but but the QB. Many might argue that Baxter would have been another potentially explosive playmaker but we haven't seen him either. If people would take a step back and actually analyze the root causes and contributing factors they will find and admit that this isn't just a QB problem.

Funny how people want Arch to come in in RZ because he is a run threat. That alone should give them the clue they are looking for. The statistics for the run game in losses and RZ for the entire year tell you where the problem lies. It's up to the HC/OC to figure it out. Based on what I saw against Clemson, I think he did but some of you probably didn't even realize what changes were made.

Damn right and dead on. Sometimes we wanna run it and can't. Sometimes we wanna catch it but can't throw it. Sometimes we throw it and can't catch it. 

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Kennythetiger said:

We’re grown men throwing personal insults at each other over teenage boys and boys barely out of their teenage years. 

Fuck you Kenny! This observationally accurate post clearly doesn't come down on pro or anti Ewers. This a binary thread where you're for or against. As such your noncommittal take doesn't fit in this thread. Take that bullshit to the football board. (Just not the Sark, FUPM or Deion threads)

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Depends, I choose to spread the blame around and not lay it all at the feet of the starting QB.

Although we have a talented receiver room, we have exactly one of those guys to meet or exceed expectations. The two most explosive playmakers on the offense have either been hurt or a non factor(turnover machine) for the toughest stretch of the schedule. But, but but the QB. Many might argue that Baxter would have been another potentially explosive playmaker but we haven't seen him either. If people would take a step back and actually analyze the root causes and contributing factors they will find and admit that this isn't just a QB problem.

Funny how people want Arch to come in in RZ because he is a run threat. That alone should give them the clue they are looking for. The statistics for the run game in losses and RZ for the entire year tell you where the problem lies. It's up to the HC/OC to figure it out. Based on what I saw against Clemson, I think he did but some of you probably didn't even realize what changes were made.

Gotcha.
More of a potpourri of blame.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Dnaguy said:

Gotcha.
More of a potpourri of blame.

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If you walk into an airport bathroom and it smells like shit who's is it that stinks? A little bit of everyones most likely. Some maybe more than others but ain't no one shitting roses.

Posted
5 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

If you walk into an airport bathroom and it smells like shit who's is it that stinks? A little bit of everyones most likely. Some maybe more than others but ain't no one shitting roses.

“Liberté, Égalité, Farternité” 

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Posted
30 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Funny how people want Arch to come in in RZ because he is a run threat. That alone should give them the clue they are looking for. The statistics for the run game in losses and RZ for the entire year tell you where the problem lies. It's up to the HC/OC to figure it out. Based on what I saw against Clemson, I think he did but some of you probably didn't even realize what changes were made.

People wanted Arch in because we were having trouble scoring TDs in the RZ, not because we wanted him to exclusively run the ball. 

I don't think anyone wants to see Arch treated like Alex Orji. I would rather him not play at all if he's just a battering ram. 

 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

People wanted Arch in because we were having trouble scoring TDs in the RZ, not because we wanted him to exclusively run the ball. 

I don't think anyone wants to see Arch treated like Alex Orji. I would rather him not play at all if he's just a battering ram. 

 

No one is expecting Arch to come in and sling it. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it, the lack of run game in. the RZ has caused people to want Arch to get more play time specifically in the RZ. Why? Because he is a run threat. What have they done with him? Run him. This isn't complicated.

Once again, the lack of run game in the RZ isn't a QB problem when you run a pro style offense with a pocket passer QB. Just say it.

Posted
1 minute ago, Longhornlove said:

No one is expecting Arch to come in and sling it. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it, the lack of run game in. the RZ has caused people to want Arch to get more play time specifically in the RZ. Why? Because he is a run threat. What have they done with him? Run him. This isn't complicated.

Once again, the lack of run game in the RZ isn't a QB problem when you run a pro style offense with a pocket passer QB. Just say it.

Do you think Texas fans only want Arch in to run the ball when he's in the game? 

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

No one is expecting Arch to come in and sling it. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it, the lack of run game in. the RZ has caused people to want Arch to get more play time specifically in the RZ. Why? Because he is a run threat. What have they done with him? Run him. This isn't complicated.

Once again, the lack of run game in the RZ isn't a QB problem when you run a pro style offense with a pocket passer QB. Just say it.

We stopped throwing in the RZ the issue is the dumb dumb playcaller.

In 2020 when he was only the OC he was fine. Now he is the HC and playcaller he gets overwhelmed. He is either going to figure that out and dominate the sport or he won't and we will continue to flub games against the top 5.

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2 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Do you think Texas fans only want Arch in to run the ball when he's in the game? 

 

What some Texas fans want is irrelevant and counter productive to solving the actual problems with the RZ offense that we have been having the second half of the season.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Pimphand said:

We stopped throwing in the RZ the issue is the dumb dumb playcaller.

In 2020 when he was only the OC he was fine. Now he is the HC and playcaller he gets overwhelmed. He is either going to figure that out and dominate the sport or he won't and we will continue to flub games against the top 5.

Slow developing plays in condensed sets in a condensed field are not a good, combination especially when Jonathan Brooks, RoJo and Bijan are no longer in the backfield. Our RZ offense is predictable. We need to break tendencies and we aren't, haven't. 

Posted
Just now, Longhornlove said:

What some Texas fans want is irrelevant and counter productive to solving the actual problems with the RZ offense that we have been having the second half of the season.

 It was never considered strictly a running game issue in the RZ. You're making that up. 

There are two reasons the "play Arch" talk has died down this week, including from me. 1. We had more success vs. Clemson, and play an average ASU D this week and 2. No one wants to see Arch exclusively used as a runner.

 

 

Posted
1 minute ago, Hank Kingsley said:

 It was never considered strictly a running game issue in the RZ. You're making that up. 

That is factually incorrect and supported by statistics that I have posted on multiple occasions.

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Here is 2022 with RoJo and Bijan

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Here is Passing in 2024, notice in Blue, wow, look at the QB rating in the RZ, that is pretty high isn't it. I think it is the highest rating out of all isn't it?

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Tell me again where the problem in the RZ is?

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At this point in the season the stats don't lie. We are what we are in the RZ. It is a Fact that we have struggled to run the football in the RZ. Most teams do struggle but not as bad as we have this year. Historically speaker in previous years we are above 3 yards per carry in the RZ. We were below 2 until last game and still barely above it.

Here is the link https://cfbstats.com/2022/team/703/passing/offense/situational.html 

feel free to look at our past and other teams performances. 

Fun little fact. We are noticeably better in the RZ at passing this year than years past. I know that is hard to believe because QE bad and all but the stats are there. The numbers don't lie. Could he have been better, sure, so can the run game. Should be drastically better.

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36 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

That is factually incorrect and supported by statistics that I have posted on multiple occasions.

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Here is 2022 with RoJo and Bijan

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Here is Passing in 2024, notice in Blue, wow, look at the QB rating in the RZ, that is pretty high isn't it. I think it is the highest rating out of all isn't it?

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Tell me again where the problem in the RZ is?

Your argument is the RZ running game is hurting the team (2.03 ypc) and Quinn’s RZ passer rating (192.96) is pretty high, so Quinn is not the problem in the red zone. Is this correct? 

Posted
26 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

At this point in the season the stats don't lie. We are what we are in the RZ. It is a Fact that we have struggled to run the football in the RZ. Most teams do struggle but not as bad as we have this year. Historically speaker in previous years we are above 3 yards per carry in the RZ. We were below 2 until last game and still barely above it.

Here is the link https://cfbstats.com/2022/team/703/passing/offense/situational.html 

feel free to look at our past and other teams performances. 

Fun little fact. We are noticeably better in the RZ at passing this year than years past. I know that is hard to believe because QE bad and all but the stats are there. The numbers don't lie. Could he have been better, sure, so can the run game. Should be drastically better.

Props for bringing stats to support your argument, but they never tell the whole story. We started the season strong in the RZ, and struggled later in the year. The struggles vs. A&M and UGA were noticeable. We rank near the bottom in RZ %, that is a team issue. Never said it was all on Quinn, but he is part of it. 

That said, ASU is a favorable matchup for Ewers and our offense overall. I think we'll have a lot of success this week. 

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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, MrBig said:

Your argument is the RZ running game is hurting the team (2.03 ypc) and Quinn’s RZ passer rating (192.96) is pretty high, so Quinn is not the problem in the red zone. Is this correct? 

those are for both. Arch Redzone rating is 266.46 (5 TDs, 0 ints) vs 177.8 for Ewers.

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Posted
9 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

those are for both. Arch Redzone rating is 266.46 (5 TDs, 0 ints) vs 177.8 for Ewers.

Thanks for the ratings breakdown between QBs. Is there any stat for RZ efficiency that measures the percentage of RZ trips converted successfully into scored TDs (and not including FGs)? I’m just trying to get a picture of how often the offense coverts RZ trips into TDs without having an RZ efficiency stat that is influenced by the kicker as well.

Posted
3 minutes ago, MrBig said:

Thanks for the ratings breakdown between QBs. Is there any stat for RZ efficiency that measures the percentage of RZ trips converted successfully into scored TDs (and not including FGs)? I’m just trying to get a picture of how often the offense coverts RZ trips into TDs without having an RZ efficiency stat that is influenced by the kicker as well.

just straight vanilla red zone TD%, Texas is 48th

 

https://cfbstats.com/2024/leader/national/team/offense/split01/category27/sort05.html

Posted
4 minutes ago, MrBig said:

Thanks for the ratings breakdown between QBs. Is there any stat for RZ efficiency that measures the percentage of RZ trips converted successfully into scored TDs (and not including FGs)? I’m just trying to get a picture of how often the offense coverts RZ trips into TDs without having an RZ efficiency stat that is influenced by the kicker as well.

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Posted
38 minutes ago, MrBig said:

Your argument is the RZ running game is hurting the team (2.03 ypc) and Quinn’s RZ passer rating (192.96) is pretty high, so Quinn is not the problem in the red zone. Is this correct? 

It wasn't Quinn , that of course was both QBs. The RZ rushing numbers are terrible. There is no debating that.

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He’s now locked his account. What a sorry sack of shit. My original feeling was to wish his well and hope he gets it together. He’s done nothing but shit on Sark and the program. Fuck him.

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Embarrassing that the people around Cook let this shit continue to happen. Mulugheta is still his agent? WTF? 

 

Dude is pissing away millions 

crazy that no one is giving him a come to Jesus dressing down talk 

Posted
1 minute ago, MotownHorn said:

Dude is pissing away millions 

crazy that no one is giving him a come to Jesus dressing down talk 

Reportedly Jesus himself came to give Cook a talking to, and Johntay tweeted “bitch,plz.”

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Wally Pryor said:

Millions?  Probably should reset that. 

He’s got talent. He could make a lot of money if he spent as much time working on his game as he does embarrassing himself on social media 

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Brock Purdy was Mr irrelevant in the draft and has become a starter in the league even if he might lose his job next year. Quinn is going to the draft and he’ll be ok or flame out regardless of draft position. If he stays and transfers someone named future man will fist himself I’m sure 

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         REC    YDS    AVG    TD    LNG
TEX 2023   8    136    17.0    0    51
TEX 2024   8    137    17.1    2    40
Career    16    273    17.1    2    51

 

are those the stats of the guy that is talking shit.....because if they are he seems like he sucks

Posted
1 hour ago, Fondren & Main said:

These fucking QB’s that are better than Quinn keep fucking losing.  😢 

Yep, we are getting to enjoy terrible QB play all over the place today, we watched it for over a decade, and some people think Ewers isn't a very good QB. Try watching other QBs.

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