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6 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

I've gone back and watched the game twice now, because I hate myself. I am in complete agreement with you. Sark started off with a somewhat vanilla game plan, although not nearly as vanilla as people have been saying. The more I watch, the more I see open pass catchers that Arch didn't even try to hit. And that's on top of the times he made the right reads but fucked up the throw. 

Why do this to yourself? I must say I admire your intestinal fortitude, though.

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Those idiots are too busy sniffy Reed's ass.  I heard one dumbass call into Finebaum yesterday proclaiming he will be in New York at the end of the season.  LOL

For New Year’s Eve at Times Square? Will Lt Dan also be there?
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45 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

I just can’t get that upset about Sarks gameplan (besides at the goal line) when multiple game changing plays were schemed open and flat missed. 

100%

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26 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

The more I watch, the more I see open pass catchers that Arch didn't even try to hit. And that's on top of the times he made the right reads but fucked up the throw. 

Another agree post here. You often see coaches dialing up "easy passes for the young nervous QB in order to build confidence." Sark called a shitload of those, and Arch was off on those. What's Sark supposed to do? 

Listening to Will Matthews on OTF this morning, and he said when Arch blew that first throw to Moore so badly, Arch and everyone around Will on the sideline was like, "What the hell was that?" They were surprised and rattled. I think it got to Arch a bit -- he was pressing, uncomfortable (in large part due to a well called OSU defense and the presence of Caleb Downs taking away several options), and took a while to get his confidence back. 

I don't think this was a game planning or play calling issue. I don't put this one on Sark, aside from maybe not having Arch ready to withstand the pressure he felt. The red zone BS still needs fixing, no doubt, but the three quarters of offensive horseshit we saw last Saturday shouldn't occur again if Arch gets his mojo back. SJSU will be a good next test, and then Florida will be the true test. 

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5 minutes ago, honolulu horn said:

he said when Arch blew that first throw to Moore so badly, Arch and everyone around Will on the sideline was like, "What the hell was that?" They were surprised and rattled.

Me too

That was when I knew I had a suspicion it was not gonna be our day

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50 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

I've gone back and watched the game twice now, because I hate myself. I am in complete agreement with you. Sark started off with a somewhat vanilla game plan, although not nearly as vanilla as people have been saying. The more I watch, the more I see open pass catchers that Arch didn't even try to hit. And that's on top of the times he made the right reads but fucked up the throw. 

Sark didn't kill it with this game but there was a lot of meat that Arch left on the bone. This is especially true in the red zone. Sark actually called several TD plays while we were in the redzone. And this is something that I was initially furious about and am having to retract my statements about Sark's playcalling. You know that frustratingly stupid "up the gut on 4th and short" call where there was no way we were going to get it? Sark schemed up two TD passes and a TD run in the series of plays before it. The guys just didn't execute. At that point I become more sympathetic to him just calling a simple play where he hopes we get lucky. Because what the fuck else can he do? Sark's RZ playcalling was much better than I remembered and it is baffling to see how poorly Arch executed it. 

I can't assume we win even if Arch makes all the right calls and throws because OSU would have changed it strategy as well. But man, we would have had a much better chance. 

what was the TD run?? If I am thinking about the right series.

1st down. It was Arch for ~5

2nd down: Arch for minimal gain. Play where Goosby gets pushed back a couple yards, guard if forced to loop around him, Arch cuts up, Campbell and Baker get beat and allow the backside defenders make the play. Arch probably should have adjusted his path, but hard to know if he scores. I doubt it. 3 OL getting whipped rarely works out 

3rd down:  Was a run to Baxter (which I was said before the play "please score or lose 2 yards").

4th was the same QB sneak that Texas ran earlier that barely converted and OSU ran the exact same packaging clogging the A and B gaps. 

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2 hours ago, Fondren & Main said:

Those idiots are too busy sniffy Reed's ass.  I heard one dumbass call into Finebaum yesterday proclaiming he will be in New York at the end of the season.  LOL

Does he plan to do some Christmas shopping?

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45 minutes ago, DFW Horn said:
52 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

I've gone back and watched the game twice now, because I hate myself. I am in complete agreement with you. Sark started off with a somewhat vanilla game plan, although not nearly as vanilla as people have been saying. The more I watch, the more I see open pass catchers that Arch didn't even try to hit. And that's on top of the times he made the right reads but fucked up the throw. 

Why do this to yourself? I must say I admire your intestinal fortitude, though.

Amazing what one can see when he goes back and watches the tape with the benefit of pause and replay. You'll often find that player execution, or lack thereof, had more to do with outcomes than the plays that were called. There's a reason coaches defer answering specific questions about plays or players until they've had a chance to watch the tape. No one can see everything that happens in real time.

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23 hours ago, bschoolprof said:

This guy (former college QB, practice squad guy in NFL, for Sark briefly) thinks he's hurt (or other arm issues).  

 

Pretty much says what I thought while watching the game. "SO WEIRD". Arch did not look comfortable AT ALL. That hopefully is all there is to it. His footwork was horrible. And yeah, what the guy says again and again, he looked like he was really laboring throwing the ball. This guy shows the plays and man, there were tons of open guys who were missed. Hope Arch can get it all right. 

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17 hours ago, Derka said:

the argument was not that he’s “probably not hurt”, it was that he couldn’t possibly be hurt since it was our first game. and yes, that’s an incredibly stupid take. seeing the people giving that take calling others stupid deserved a call out.

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17 hours ago, Da Fino said:

Good god you are pedantic. 

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17 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

Derka’d

 

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1 hour ago, Hank_Hill said:

I just can’t get that upset about Sarks gameplan (besides at the goal line) when multiple game changing plays were schemed open and flat missed. 

Also he tried to run the ball a lot more. I think the challenge has been issued to the OL this year to get nasty and dominate the LOS from the beginning of the game to open up deeper shots. I dig it. Eagles style. They didn't master it in one game, it took a bit. 

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On 9/2/2025 at 9:21 AM, perfectchaos007 said:

Sark’s message to Arch before the Ohio State game was “Just be yourself”.

That advice didn’t yield intended results, so against Florida Sark needs to tell him something radically different like “Mudhole these swamp ass fucks”

 

Kinda like in 2023 when he told the team to “have a lot of fun” minutes before Texas-OU kickoff.

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30 minutes ago, Dignan said:

Pretty much says what I thought while watching the game. "SO WEIRD". Arch did not look comfortable AT ALL. That hopefully is all there is to it. His footwork was horrible. And yeah, what the guy says again and again, he looked like he was really laboring throwing the ball. This guy shows the plays and man, there were tons of open guys who were missed. Hope Arch can get it all right. 

Yep. I can’t remember a game where it was truly lost entirely by one player, but now I have one. The entire thing falls on Arch. That said, let’s go fix it and win all the rest. We know he has the tools. Just get his head right. 

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I went back and watched the ULM highlights from last year. He made some boneheaded reads and bad throws, as one would expect. But his throwing motion was far less labored and funky looking.  Could just be nerves got to him at tOSU.  But I wouldn't 100% discount the possibility that something is up with his arm.  

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42 minutes ago, sith_horn said:

Amazing what one can see when he goes back and watches the tape with the benefit of pause and replay. You'll often find that player execution, or lack thereof, had more to do with outcomes than the plays that were called. There's a reason coaches defer answering specific questions about plays or players until they've had a chance to watch the tape. No one can see everything that happens in real time.

FWIW, I did watch all of Manning's passes on YT the day after the game. I just can't watch the whole game twice. But, yeah, that's why coaches gotta watch the tape to diagnose the plays and performance.

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53 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

what was the TD run?? If I am thinking about the right series.

1st down. It was Arch for ~5

2nd down: Arch for minimal gain. Play where Goosby gets pushed back a couple yards, guard if forced to loop around him, Arch cuts up, Campbell and Baker get beat and allow the backside defenders make the play. Arch probably should have adjusted his path, but hard to know if he scores. I doubt it. 3 OL getting whipped rarely works out 

3rd down:  Was a run to Baxter (which I was said before the play "please score or lose 2 yards").

4th was the same QB sneak that Texas ran earlier that barely converted and OSU ran the exact same packaging clogging the A and B gaps. 

Bolded the run. Stroh is the only OL that gets stood up and Hutson is still moving around to seal off the back side and catch any trailing DL. I'm obviously speculating, but to my eyes if Arch keeps running the ball outside like the play is designed, he has enough space and time to get the TD. 

 

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2 hours ago, Codaxx said:

Wait you are saying the person that devised the plan thinks the plan was good, I am shocked. 

Well yes, he'd had a chance to watch the film and confirmed what they wanted to do was available to them.  They thought it before the game, during the game and after watching the film.  

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11 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Yep. I can’t remember a game where it was truly lost entirely by one player, but now I have one. The entire thing falls on Arch. That said, let’s go fix it and win all the rest. We know he has the tools. Just get his head right. 

I agree 100%…. A decent game from Arch gets it done for Texas with that defense. That being said, I felt the same way about Ewers in the 2022 TCU game at home (17-39, 171 yards, OTD, 1int).

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14 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

I went back and watched the ULM highlights from last year. He made some boneheaded reads and bad throws, as one would expect. But his throwing motion was far less labored and funky looking.  Could just be nerves got to him at tOSU.  But I wouldn't 100% discount the possibility that something is up with his arm.  

Absolutely, it was so reckless that I was really worried about Miss St.  However, he corrected his errors and if not for foolish turnovers and dropped passes Arch wears them out.

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9 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

Bolded the run. Stroh is the only OL that gets stood up and Hutson is still moving around to seal off the back side and catch any trailing DL. I'm obviously speculating, but to my eyes if Arch keeps running the ball outside like the play is designed, he has enough space and time to get the TD. 

 

You are right that is Stroh that gets stuffed on the pull and Hutson has to loop over him. Play isnt designed like that. Stroh needs to be way more physical there. Campbell and Baker are pretty lackadaisical on cutting off the backside, they get beat. Arch may score if goes outside. He may score if Campbell and Baker dont get beat. Not a good rep from the OL in the redzone. 

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9 minutes ago, Revolution512 said:

Well yes, he'd had a chance to watch the film and confirmed what they wanted to do was available to them.  They thought it before the game, during the game and after watching the film.  

Texas may win if Arch is better. They may not win. Good chance the redzone bites Texas in the ass. Perhaps OSU opens things up. I do know the game plan was weak. The OL was mediocre. The RBs were mediocre. The QB was bad. We can disagree, but the issues in that game were more than just Arch. I think only Endries had a good game. 

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11 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

Bolded the run. Stroh is the only OL that gets stood up and Hutson is still moving around to seal off the back side and catch any trailing DL. I'm obviously speculating, but to my eyes if Arch keeps running the ball outside like the play is designed, he has enough space and time to get the TD. 

 

Paul Wadlington talked about this play on his podcast. He saw the same thing. Stroh getting his shit mashed in blocked Arch's view and made it look like the play was blown up.

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9 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Texas may win if Arch is better. They may not win. Good chance the redzone bites Texas in the ass. Perhaps OSU opens things up. I do know the game plan was weak. The OL was mediocre. The RBs were mediocre. The QB was bad. We can disagree, but the issues in that game were more than just Arch. I think only Endries had a good game. 

If Arch hits some of those passes, we may not even have had to run red zone plays. 

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11 minutes ago, CurlyDumps said:

 

Paul Wadlington talked about this play on his podcast. He saw the same thing. Stroh getting his shit mashed in blocked Arch's view and made it look like the play was blown up.

he also went off about the effort of Campbell and Baker on the play. He was critical of pretty much every aspect of the Texas offense, outside of Endries. Gave the WRs an incomplete

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/longhorn-football-team-scout-after-week-1/id1479624200?i=1000724691770

 

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12 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

The OL was mediocre. The RBs were mediocre. 

Huh, and huh?

The pass protection was very solid, and the RB's ran 26 times for 120 yards.

The issues in this game were Arch's inaccuracy and Sark going full retard in the red zone multiple times.  I can't imagine pointing a finger anywhere else.

 

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24 minutes ago, CurlyDumps said:

 

Paul Wadlington talked about this play on his podcast. He saw the same thing. Stroh getting his shit mashed in blocked Arch's view and made it look like the play was blown up.

What’s the name of his podcast?

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13 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Huh, and huh?

The pass protection was very solid, and the RB's ran 26 times for 120 yards.

The issues in this game were Arch's inaccuracy and Sark going full retard in the red zone multiple times.  I can't imagine pointing a finger anywhere else.

 

OSU ran light boxes and focused on the pass game. They pretty much disrespected the Texas run game. They dared Texas to run the football, which is interesting considering that was Arch's first road start. Texas could not force them out of light boxes. Struggled to run in the red zone, when they did not have a numbers advantage. If team runs light boxes against you and you cannot force them out of it or convert in short yardage, it is not a success. It might have been interesting if Sark force fed the run vs the light boxes and let Arch throw deep shots, which was the only thing he did well vs OSU. I believe OSU pressure rate vs Texas was 35%. Texas was at 25%

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“we would have won this game with slightly better qb play, this loss is solely on arch”, they said with zero irony after the literal first game post-quinn. you know how many of our losses the past two years would have been wins with slightly better qb play? all of them. we just spent two years watching our teams potentially lose out on two national titles because of qb play that needed to be 10-15% better, but *now* we’re finally deciding that the qb is the one to blame for the loss, a close road loss against the best team in america during the qb’s first start as qb1. that’s hilarious.

arch was terrible, but so was sark. we had the entire offseason to prepare for this game and our game plan was garbage, and sark’s game day/goal line/4th and short calls were typically terrible. we also had some killer penalties which led to a tOSU td in a 14-7 game. and it’s not like anyone here has a clue as to how well each o lineman, d lineman, linebacker, and safety played, or who made what mistakes and what the cause and effect of those mistakes was. 

i could keep going, but the bottom line is that a)no loss is ever solely on one person- not 2008 ttu, not 2025 tosu- and b)the idea that *now* this website is finally ready to blame the qb for a loss is hilarious. not when it was a second and third year starter surrounded by the most nfl talent in college football, talent that uniformly was outperforming him weekly; no no no. now that that guy is gone, along with basically all of his future nfl skill position talent, now is the time to blame literally everything on the quarterback, in his first start as qb1, on the road, vs the best team in the country, with matt patricia game planning for him, and sark doing him no favors. lol ok.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

If team runs light boxes against you and you cannot force them out of it or convert in short yardage, it is not a success.

And yet somehow we marched down the field on them 3 times and came away with only 7 points specifically because we stopped running the ball with the running backs.

Sorry, but there is no rational way to characterize the O line and running backs as mediocre when Arch was almost never touched in the pocket and the backs had over 4.5 ypc.

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It was a humbling day for everyone.  This may prove beneficial in the long run, time will tell.  After hearing all the hype about #1 ranking, shit don't stink et al...we win 3 in a row and head to UF with something to prove and get out of Dallas 5-1 I think we'll be aok for a run. Anything other than that and we'll need to buckle up.

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7 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

And yet somehow we marched down the field on them 3 times and came away with only 7 points specifically because we stopped running the ball with the running backs.

Sorry, but there is no rational way to characterize the O line and running backs as mediocre when Arch was almost never touched in the pocket and the backs had over 4.5 ypc.

We can disagree. I think OSU conceded the run between the 20s by scheme. I can flip the coin and say the 25% pressure rate by the Texas defense was bad. The stats say it is bad, so it must be. Or I can say OSU chipped and ran a lot of quick game that limited the pass rushing opportunities. 

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10 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

We can probably chalk UGA up as a loss too. Kirby going to easily shut down Sark and Arch.

Did anyone ask about UGA? Or are you just farting through your keyboard again?

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The Joel Klatt take on the ticket today was that Arch was not good, but that the vanilla Sark offense, lacking the usual pre-snap motion, misdirection etc, that we ran did him no favors either. Patricia drew up an NFL-level defense full of extremely well-disguised coverages, and tOSU executed it to perfection.  That Texas wouldn't play a defense that tough again (under the assumption that even if they were to play tOSU again, everybody would know better what to expect), that Arch looked better as the game wore on, save for a few throws, and that he believes Arch will be okay.  

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19 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

And yet somehow we marched down the field on them 3 times and came away with only 7 points specifically because we stopped running the ball with the running backs.

The OL played better than I thought how it could have gone given it was their first start against such an opponent and venue. But they definitely had some breakdowns in pass pro and shortfalls in run blocking. Stuff to work on but not anything to panic over at this early juncture.

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1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

It's possible the issue is all on Arch, but however Sark/Milwee tried to mentally prepare him for the Ohio State game, please do the opposite moving forward. 

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3 minutes ago, sith_horn said:

The OL played better than I thought how it could have gone given it was their first start against such an opponent and venue. But they definitely had some breakdowns in pass pro and shortfalls in run blocking. Stuff to work on but not anything to panic over at this early juncture.

I am not sounding the panic button, simply saying that the stats do not tell the whole story

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25 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

We can probably chalk UGA up as a loss too. Kirby going to easily shut down Sark and Arch.

hard to feel optimistic when Sark has gotten his ass handed to him when facing teams with equal talent aka Georgia, tOSU

If we are to beat Georgia, it will be due to finally having a QB carry the offense.  So, lets see if Arch improves.

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1 hour ago, westexhorn said:

hard to feel optimistic when Sark has gotten his ass handed to him when facing teams with equal talent aka Georgia, tOSU

If we are to beat Georgia, it will be due to finally having a QB carry the offense.  So, lets see if Arch improves.

I get the frustration, but I wouldn’t call losing to Georgia in OT and losing two 7 point games getting your ass handed to you. 

But I get your overall point. I don’t think Ryan Day’s gameplan in either matchup was to do very little offensively and pray we couldn’t score from the 1.

This is the same hump Day and Kirby had to fight to get over. Took Kirby 5 tries to beat Bama and Day 7 years and 4 losses to Michigan to win a title.

It’s more painful because we are close and aren’t just getting our doors blown off.

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In order for Texas to be successful they had to be lighter in the box to help contain one of if not the best WR groups in college. And yet, the Ohio st Oline was barely able to get a consistent push against our front, only rushing for 77 yards at 2.3YPC. Ohio st has a pretty good Dline even if it’s not as deep as Texas. Their edges and LB core also played good and had some unknowns that are now on peoples radar. And we all know how good Downs is in the box and sniffing out runs. So I just have a hard time believing our Oline played bad while getting 4.5YPC with 3 to 4 new starters and blocking for a running back coming off a knee implosion. Paul seems to always be hypercritical of the lines, whether it’s not being tough enough or going on one of his S&C tirades that he loves to do. The Oline could have been better in certain situations but there was stuff outside of their control that had a bigger impact on the game. 

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8 hours ago, elguapo said:

You have no idea what the 1st read is.

Wingo comes open off the rub route as designed, it's an easy completion that is probably a TD.

Riiiigggghhhhhtttt......A clean throw to the outside vs a throw over the middle in traffic? This isn't fucking UTEP. That's Ohio State. Test that if you want to. Good chance Wingo comes away unconscious.

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