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4 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

My MIL is a counselor in San Diego that specializes in placing and helping kids get into college. Over the last few years she’s seen it become easier for out of state kids to get into CA schools than CA kids. They want that out of state money. 

CU and CSU went through that probably 15-20 years ago and there was a huge outcry when one year's freshman class at CU had more out of state than in state kids in it.  I think they are required to have more in state kids in every class now.  But they do love the OOS tuition.

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2 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

how many affordable, good schools are left in Texas?

Trinity has a huge endowment and used to provide a lot of scholarships and other aid packages other than loans to keep costs affordable.  I assume they still do, but I'm not 100%.

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6 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

There is certainly a fair amount of privilege to be able to spend $50k a year to be educated in California (or New York or Seattle, etc.) and accelerate the move out of Texas for an education that is average-to-above-average (e.g. Oregon, Arizona, Colorado, San Diego St., Cal Poly, etc.)

Colorado is on the rise. They’re attracting more competitive students and talented faculty. I think it’s in roughly the same position UT was back in the 90s or early 2000s. So, you know, pretty equivalent to the UT education many of us got. 

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18 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

While the UT system isn't up to UC standards, there are a few options where a good education is possible.  UT-Arlington, UT-Dallas, and UT-San Antonio all have their good points. 

UTD is on a different plane than Arlington and San Antonio. If the state had any sense, it would be plowing a whole lot more money into that campus, but absent that, what they’ve done on that campus in the last 20 years is pretty remarkable.

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Posted (edited)
17 hours ago, SimonBolivar said:

Did A&M counter by adding another 10,000? 

You say this flippantly, but the UT System has been egregiously derelict in expanding undergraduate admissions at the flagship and increasing the quality of faculty and funding at satellite campuses. As an alum and someone who is currently paying for two undergrads there I say fuck them

 

In terms of quality of education, UTD is the exception that proves the rule, but is basically a standalone and focused on stem and research. It doesn’t offer students a traditional college experience 

 

edit UT could add 30% to the incoming freshman class and increase their test scores and other measurables

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13 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

Colorado is on the rise. They’re attracting more competitive students and talented faculty. I think it’s in roughly the same position UT was back in the 90s or early 2000s. So, you know, pretty equivalent to the UT education many of us got. 

Anecdotally, Colorado gives very little in terms of merit based financial aid to out of state students, and it is one of the more expensive out of state schools

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14 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Anecdotally, Colorado gives very little in terms of merit based financial aid to out of state students, and it is one of the more expensive out of state schools

Compared to the other schools on your list? Sure. Oregon has been particularly generous lately. But I know several kids who got decent help at CU, and it is probably the overall best school on that list (or at least is moving in that direction).

In my experience, the net price for out of state public schools is inversely proportional to their academic ranking. All-in, CU Boulder is significantly less expensive than the UCs and places like Michigan or UVa, for example. 

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2 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Compared to the other schools on your list? Sure. Oregon has been particularly generous lately. But I know several kids who got decent help at CU, and it is probably the overall best school on that list (or at least is moving in that direction).

In my experience, the net price for out of state public schools is inversely proportional to their academic ranking. All-in, CU Boulder is significantly less expensive than the UCs and places like Michigan or UVa, for example. 

Again I said anecdotally. We don’t know any kids who got into a UC school and picked CU over them, much less Michigan or UVa. The kids that got into CU got no merit based aid and FAFSA was too high for need based. The kids that we know who got into UC schools Michigan and UVA (one each) all got some merit based aid and or need

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43 minutes ago, royiv said:

UTD is on a different plane than Arlington and San Antonio. If the state had any sense, it would be plowing a whole lot more money into that campus, but absent that, what they’ve done on that campus in the last 20 years is pretty remarkable.

UTD got a huge boost early on from TI and TI founders, who wanted a school to work-study TI employees.  They offered to do the same for SMU, but SMU declined, seeing itself as a liberal arts and business school.  So its beginnings were different from most of the other UT "satellite" schools.

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This thread left me wondering about something. What are some schools that have traditional college experiences (including P4 football), but are extremely easy to get into (>83%)? There were plenty more than I expected and something for everyone.

Michigan State - 84% acceptance rate

Iowa - 85%

Arizona - 86%

Oregon - 85%

Arizona State - 90%

Iowa State - 89%

Utah - 87%

Colorado State - 90%

Cincinnati - 88%

Kansas - 88%

Kentucky - 92%

Ole Miss - 98% (!!!)

West Virginia - 88%





 

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54 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

UTD got a huge boost early on from TI and TI founders, who wanted a school to work-study TI employees.  They offered to do the same for SMU, but SMU declined, seeing itself as a liberal arts and business school.  So its beginnings were different from most of the other UT "satellite" schools.

Yeah, I fund an endowed scholarship with my name on it at UTD. I’m well aware of its history.

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Posted (edited)

She got her college essay done and it's pretty good. Meeting with our guy on Wednesday to polish it up and look at which college applications to tackle first. She's going to take the SAT a 3rd time in early September as she wants to increase her math score. Our neighbor is a math teacher and offered to help her prepare. So I think we're looking at the end of the month to start applying.

I wouldn't mind her applying to UTD but I really want her to get out of this city for college so she can experience someplace new and not live in the same city for 22 years. UTD is a great school but I would only want her to go there if that was her favorite option. 

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Posted (edited)

So apparently if you are looking at liberal arts only there is a way to do ACC for one semester and transfer into COLA  for spring? Seems like have the kids in callaway and Castilian are doing that 

 

eta and online ACC courses count for some of it

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Posted
20 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

CU and CSU went through that probably 15-20 years ago and there was a huge outcry when one year's freshman class at CU had more out of state than in state kids in it.  I think they are required to have more in state kids in every class now.  But they do love the OOS tuition.

The reason why there are so many Maryland kids sprinkled all over the eastern seaboard is because in state admissions to College Park is brutal. UMD makes a lot of money off mediocre full freight kids out of New Jersey.

Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

Compared to the other schools on your list? Sure. Oregon has been particularly generous lately. But I know several kids who got decent help at CU, and it is probably the overall best school on that list (or at least is moving in that direction).

In my experience, the net price for out of state public schools is inversely proportional to their academic ranking. All-in, CU Boulder is significantly less expensive than the UCs and places like Michigan or UVa, for example. 

From my anecdotal experience, the California kids coming out of California who did not get into UCLA/UCSD/Berkley/Santa Barbara/UW and have money go to Colorado. The others look at a range of other schools (Oregon/Arizona, etc.)

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Posted
27 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

From my anecdotal experience, the California kids coming out of California who did not get into UCLA/UCSD/Berkley/Santa Barbara/UW and have money go to Colorado.

That sounds about right. Similar for Texas. Lots of kids who didn’t get into UT or one of the Public Ivies are picking CU. Hell, we know a girl who picked CU over Columbia a couple years ago. 

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