Surly kids who can't get into UT

[jimmyjazz 45428]

My kids went to McCallum.  I'm very fond of that school.  It's far more well-rounded than the West______ options.  It's not an IB campus, so that might be a drawback, but I was super impressed with the inclusiveness.  Basically, McCallum kids aren't assholes and they are plenty well educated.

[jimmyjazz 45428]

3 minutes ago, Jerry Callo said:

When my daughter went to UTSA in 2021, they required summer classes as well.  Due to covid, the classes were online, though.

I'm pretty sure all CAP programs require 6/9/15 as the summer/fall/spring course load.

[texasdago 7544]

26 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

My kids went to McCallum.  I'm very fond of that school.  It's far more well-rounded than the West______ options.  It's not an IB campus, so that might be a drawback, but I was super impressed with the inclusiveness.  Basically, McCallum kids aren't assholes and they are plenty well educated.

I have to think for music Bowie (our kids) helps too given the intensity and quality of the marching band program.  

[jimmyjazz 45428]

1 minute ago, texasdago said:

I have to think for music Bowie (our kids) helps too given the intensity and quality of the marching band program.  

At the time, McCallum suffered a bit in terms of marching band.  The teachers were more into jazz and symphonic music.  The percussion ensemble my daughter played in was off the charts good, they played at the Midwest Clinic and got rave reviews from all the profs at schools like UNT, Juilliard, and Berklee.

[texasdago 7544]

10 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

At the time, McCallum suffered a bit in terms of marching band.  The teachers were more into jazz and symphonic music.  The percussion ensemble my daughter played in was off the charts good, they played at the Midwest Clinic and got rave reviews from all the profs at schools like UNT, Juilliard, and Berklee.

...and McCallum does have a great reputation for their music program.  For AISD, Bowie and McCallum are the better programs until you start looking at Leander, RR, etc.  Again, one hopes that helps with "next steps"

[ballrific 215]

53 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

My kids went to McCallum.  I'm very fond of that school.  It's far more well-rounded than the West______ options.  It's not an IB campus, so that might be a drawback, but I was super impressed with the inclusiveness.  Basically, McCallum kids aren't assholes and they are plenty well educated.

true, then you hop back to the other side of mopac and most of those kids are shitbirds.  I'm sure there's plenty of those at McCallum too but not as many I've heard

[Tailgate 3010]

4 hours ago, Frank Drebin said:

I have noticed more than a few kids I know start at ACC and then transfer to Texas.  Or that is their stated intent.  How common is that?

This is what I did. Granted it was a few years ago.

It was awesome. I actually started at St. Ed’s for one semester and then bailed when I saw that bill.

ACC was a better experience and one of the best professors I had in my entire 5 1/2-year college career was a great ACC professor.

If they still treat the grades the same as other schools….its a no brainer to me…FWIW. ACC has some really good professors who give a shit.

[yoladu 4063]

McCallum kids definitely have a look. They know it too.

 

 

[South Austin 51976]

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

My kids went to McCallum.  I'm very fond of that school.  It's far more well-rounded than the West______ options.  It's not an IB campus, so that might be a drawback, but I was super impressed with the inclusiveness.  Basically, McCallum kids aren't assholes and they are plenty well educated.

I love McCallum. For both of my kids, their personalities are better suited for that environment – very inclusive, relatively low drama, and not turbo competitive. But, I think it’s a bit easier to get into the Top 6% there than other schools in the area.

[Leeroy Jenkins 2376]

2 hours ago, ABSR said:

Do you love him enough to move to a less competitive school?  Much like my personal success, the key to Texas auto admits is to surround yourself with losers and low performers.  

It's why I post here.

I moved to East Texas.  My daughter is graduating from UT this week in 3 years.  She is heading to SMU for law school.  

[jimmyjazz 45428]

1 hour ago, Tailgate said:

ACC was a better experience and one of the best professors I had in my entire 5 1/2-year college career was a great ACC professor.

Yeah, I saw that at UT during my time in grad school.  My two favorite profs were on opposite ends of the spectrum.  One was an absolute genius who couldn't really teach but who inspired you to figure out what the hell he was talking about, and the other was a slightly above average intellect who actually gave a shit and worked hard to connect you to the material.  Two means to the same end.

[South Austin 51976]

1 hour ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

I moved to East Texas.  My daughter is graduating from UT this week in 3 years.  She is heading to SMU for law school.  

But she's still going to hate you for moving to East Texas.

[Tailgate 3010]

3 hours ago, 1978horn said:

I have heard of kids going to Bowie the first couple of years and then transferring to Crocket to get into the top 10% or 6.5%....whatever UT is requiring these days.

Had a friend and his brother that did this for Dartmouth back in the day.

[F250 28623]

1 hour ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

I moved to East Texas.  My daughter is graduating from UT this week in 3 years.  She is heading to SMU for law school.  

I am not sure if I love my kids enough to move to East Texas.

[Grimas 657]

Yea, I told mine that if they want to go to UT, get good grades and shoot for grad school...

[Larry T. Spider 1740]

8 hours ago, ballrific said:

true, then you hop back to the other side of mopac and most of those kids are shitbirds.  I'm sure there's plenty of those at McCallum too but not as many I've heard

McCallum pulls from as far west as past 360. It borders Eanes in some areas and has the same demographics in those parts. There are always some exceptions, but the kids and parents are way more relaxed (in a good way) than neighboring districts and other HS tracks. 

Having gone to Westwood and worked at a lot of these schools, McCallum would be my first choice. 

[Bateshorn 9853]

20 hours ago, 1978horn said:

I have heard of kids going to Bowie the first couple of years and then transferring to Crocket to get into the top 10% or 6.5%....whatever UT is requiring these days.

There's been rumors forever of Westlake kids living on their parent's South Texas Dear Camps  for their Senior year and going to whatever public HS serviced it to avoid the competition for a UT auto admit. I have no idea whether it's true or not. It was always some Ferris Bueller 32 Flavors type story.  Usually told in the same breath as the similar "They got into Duke/Vandy but not UT" fable. 

[Texas Jeff 1930]

20 hours ago, texasdago said:

...and McCallum does have a great reputation for their music program.  For AISD, Bowie and McCallum are the better programs until you start looking at Leander, RR, etc.  Again, one hopes that helps with "next steps"

McCallum sounds better than the other AISD bands because the district has designated them as a magnet, so they get transfers for Fine Arts.  Bowie sounds louder than the other AISD bands because they have 700 more kids than many of the other schools, and in some cases 2000 more kids.  Austin High, Anderson and LASA also have good band programs, they just aren't fine arts magnets or larger schools.

At McCallum or Bowie, your somewhat talented kid may find themselves in a lower band or chair because the really talented kids are beating them out.  At Austin High, Anderson, or LASA, your kid may be challenged to take a solo or sit first chair.  My kids were at Austin High and I often saw kids respond to a challenge by working harder and leveling up.  Not just musically.  We put kids in charge of trailer crew or game day prep or other leadership positions and watched them mature into the role.  The Austin High band programs are double blocked, so the kids see each other every day and band becomes their high school community.

If you really want to put your kids in the most award winning bands, McCallum and Bowie and the other AISD bands lose out to Leander, just like the rest of the state.  Leander has some structural reasons why they are doing well and AISD doesn't have their advantages.  AISD is taking steps, with new instruments and putting turf practice fields on campuses, but they are a generation behind the suburbs.  AISD has been lazy, IMHO, by designating magnet schools, and then saying "hey look, wow, they are better than the other schools we have, what a great job we are doing."

McCallum and Bowie get the spotlight within AISD, but there are other programs that may be great for your kid and shouldn't be overlooked.

[speed817 19042]

Wasn't sure where to put this but here seems appropriate....

http://archive.today/2qlwO

[Bateshorn 9853]

Lol, as long as you are paying full out of state Tuition, Maryland will fucking let anyone in

[jimmyjazz 45428]

12 hours ago, Larry T. Spider said:

McCallum pulls from as far west as past 360.

When my kids were at Highland Park, the Green Shores area on Lake Austin even fed HP/Lamar/McCallum.  No idea if it still does.

[jimmyjazz 45428]

21 minutes ago, Texas Jeff said:

McCallum sounds better than the other AISD bands because the district has designated them as a magnet,

Technically not a magnet, but an "academy".

 

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so they get transfers for Fine Arts.

True.  No busses outside their natural region, though, which I've heard is why they don't designate it as a "magnet" school (they'd have to provide busses).

[immamac 42388]

1 hour ago, speed817 said:

Wasn't sure where to put this but here seems appropriate....

http://archive.today/2qlwO

The acceptance rate is not correct here.

[tx 3 putt 75959]

22 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

I moved to East Texas.  My daughter is graduating from UT this week in 3 years.  She is heading to SMU for law school.  

[South Austin 51976]

2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

When my kids were at Highland Park, the Green Shores area on Lake Austin even fed HP/Lamar/McCallum.  No idea if it still does.

Still does.  And one of my son's friends at Lamar lives in Long Canyon (Bell Mountain Rd. off 2222).

[jimmyjazz 45428]

2 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Still does.  And one of my son's friends at Lamar lives in Long Canyon (Bell Mountain Rd. off 2222).

Yep, that too.  RIcky Williams lived over there for a while.  His son Prince attended HP, as did Bo Davis' son and Todd Wright's kid.  (Todd could have hit HP with a rock with a strong throw from his front porch.)

Edited May 7 by jimmyjazz

[South Austin 51976]

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

Yep, that too.  RIcky Williams lived over there for a while.  His son Prince attended HP, as did Bo Davis' son and Todd Wright's kid.  (Todd could have hit HP with a rock with a strong throw from his front porch.)

Thread digression/csb time:  Ricky's daughter was my daughter's classmate at HP, and for one painful season at WAYA, they were on the same volleyball team.  Ricky actually came to one of the games, and couldn't look more bored and disgusted with the level of play.  They were in fourth grade, but, I mean, they still sucked.

I have a UT football autographed by Ricky that I won at an HP PTA fundraiser.  It's actually made out to me personally, though we never met.  His partner/wife asked how I would like him to autograph the ball, and I said, "Hell, I don't know.  How about, 'Jeff, Hook 'em!'"  And he did just that.  Surprisingly, my wife won't let me display that on our fireplace mantel for all our guests to see.

Edited May 7 by South Austin

[jimmyjazz 45428]

2 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Thread digression/csb time:  Ricky's daughter was my daughter's classmate at HP, and for one painful season at WAYA, they were on the same team.  Ricky actually came to one of the games, and couldn't look more bored and disgusted with the level of play.  They were in fourth grade, but, I mean, they still sucked.

Soccer? 

My daughter didn't really know Prince, but Bo Davis Jr. was in her class and had the sweets for her.  Kid was probably 5'10" in 5th grade.  His voice was lower than mine.  (Not particularly uncommon for adult men, but for a kid, it was hilariously unnerving.)

[BabaYaga 15190]

3 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Thread digression/csb time:  Ricky's daughter was my daughter's classmate at HP, and for one painful season at WAYA, they were on the same team.  Ricky actually came to one of the games, and couldn't look more bored and disgusted with the level of play.  They were in fourth grade, but, I mean, they still sucked.

I have a UT football autographed by Ricky that I won at an HP PTA fundraiser.  It's actually made out to me personally, though we never met.  His partner/wife asked how I would like him to autograph the ball, and I said, "Hell, I don't know.  How about, 'Jeff, Hook 'em!'"  And he did just that.  Surprisingly, my wife won't let me display that on our fireplace mantel for all our guests to see.

[Foosters 17688]

7 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Thread digression/csb time:  Ricky's daughter was my daughter's classmate at HP, and for one painful season at WAYA, they were on the same team.  Ricky actually came to one of the games, and couldn't look more bored and disgusted with the level of play.  They were in fourth grade, but, I mean, they still sucked.

I have a UT football autographed by Ricky that I won at an HP PTA fundraiser.  It's actually made out to me personally, though we never met.  His partner/wife asked how I would like him to autograph the ball, and I said, "Hell, I don't know.  How about, 'Jeff, Hook 'em!'"  And he did just that.  Surprisingly, my wife won't let me display that on our fireplace mantel for all our guests to see.

Ooh, my cool Ricky autograph story involves me sneaking into the Texas locker room after the '96 loss to Notre Dame and approaching Ricky while he was getting his ankle tape removed. Got him to sign shortly before getting caught and ushered out.

[F250 28623]

10 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Thread digression/csb time:  Ricky's daughter was my daughter's classmate at HP, and for one painful season at WAYA, they were on the same team.  Ricky actually came to one of the games, and couldn't look more bored and disgusted with the level of play.  They were in fourth grade, but, I mean, they still sucked.

I have a UT football autographed by Ricky that I won at an HP PTA fundraiser.  It's actually made out to me personally, though we never met.  His partner/wife asked how I would like him to autograph the ball, and I said, "Hell, I don't know.  How about, 'Jeff, Hook 'em!'"  And he did just that.  Surprisingly, my wife won't let me display that on our fireplace mantel for all our guests to see.

Should have asked for him to sign it "aggy is ass, my dude."

[SimonBolivar 10890]

Binghamton? It's a school I respect for sure, but I don't consider it on the level of the rest of those listed here for that "oh you went to ____, nice!" factor.

[F250 28623]

I think we know who South Austin is now.

 

[BabaYaga 15190]

1 minute ago, SimonBolivar said:

Binghamton? It's a school I respect for sure, but I don't consider it on the level of the rest of those listed here for that "oh you went to ____, nice!" factor.

Depends upon the degree.  Colorado school of mines doesn't exactly roll off the tongue, but some of their programs are top notch (as one example)

[South Austin 51976]

13 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Soccer? 

Sorry, I meant to say volleyball. Awful sport to watch when young kids are playing for the first time.

[BabaYaga 15190]

2 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Sorry, I meant to say volleyball. Awful sport to watch when young kids are playing for the first time.

As almost all of them are.  

[jimmyjazz 45428]

Well, the fact that they didn't consider the California public schools kinda makes the whole list a bit suspect in the first place.

[South Austin 51976]

37 minutes ago, F250 said:

I think we know who South Austin is now.

 

Hahaha! That guy is more awesome than I’ll ever be.

[CoTex 1157]

Humblebrag incoming.  Child was invited to visit Austin College for sports.  They don't do sports scholarships but, at least, forever she'll be able to truthfully say "I could have played in college."  

Anyone know anything about Austin College? 
 

[South Austin 51976]

1 hour ago, CoTex said:

Humblebrag incoming.  Child was invited to visit Austin College for sports.  They don't do sports scholarships but, at least, forever she'll be able to truthfully say "I could have played in college."  

Anyone know anything about Austin College?

You won't have to worry about her getting laid in college.

[F250 28623]

2 hours ago, CoTex said:

Humblebrag incoming.  Child was invited to visit Austin College for sports.  They don't do sports scholarships but, at least, forever she'll be able to truthfully say "I could have played in college." 
 

This was my claim to fame lol.

I was offered for baseball by the likes of Tarleton State, Dallas Baptist University, and Abilene Christian.

Dallas Baptist and Tarleton came with a little bit of money. Dallas Baptist was actually pretty generous but it was Dallas Baptist. It was basically a Baptist church with a baseball and soccer team. No thank you.

[Larry T. Spider 1740]

Isn’t Austin College really expensive? Maybe that was part of the humble brag.

[CoTex 1157]

2 hours ago, Larry T. Spider said:

Isn’t Austin College really expensive? Maybe that was part of the humble brag.

I’ve been proceeding on the assumption that a private school which really wants a student tries to get the number close to the cost of public school.

And if it’s a private school that doesn’t really want you, well f u Rice.

[4th&Five 41444]

On 5/10/2024 at 1:24 PM, South Austin said:

You won't have to worry about her getting laid in college.

This is funny because the biggest sloot I knew in HS went there. She’s a successful lawyer now though. 

[ImissWallyPryor 9044]

On 5/10/2024 at 3:07 PM, BeardIP said:

and fantastic pre-med (and growing pre-law) program.

I can remember hearing this all the way back to the early 80s, but I wonder how true it is. My sister graduated from Baylor COM in the mid-80s and my wife from UTSWMS a few years later. Neither had a single classmate from Austin College. My daughter just graduated from medical school this year, and there were 4 other graduates from her public high school which would be borderline 2A/3A in Texas.

[Born to Run 6420]

Well it looks unlikely my kid is going to get into Ut, he's close, but not close enough. We are still trying to decide on his major in the next couple months and looking at other options.

So far it's UT, UC Boulder, Washington, Texas State and wait for it, Texas Bulldog Aggies. /Shivers/.

He's taking 5 AP classes next year, is a pretty good student but didn't work Pass Fail as well as he should have and lost some traction there. His freshman year was also subpar comparitvely coming off covid.

Varsity athlete quitting to focus on School and admissions process for senior year
And hopefully shadow various careers to rule out what he doesn't want to do.

School recs for academic level just outside UT?
Any ideas on helping him narrow a path?

I'll read through the thread over the weekend. But this shit needs to move fast, for applications in Aug.

[F250 28623]

1 hour ago, Born to Run said:

Well it looks unlikely my kid is going to get into Ut, he's close, but not close enough.

[Born to Run 6420]

Hopefully, he doesn't commit basic grammatical errors whilst inquiring about my grandkids' Non UT options like his old man just did. Yikes.

[F250 28623]

1 hour ago, Born to Run said:

Well it looks unlikely my kid is going to get into Ut, he's close, but not close enough. We are still trying to decide on his major in the next couple months and looking at other options.

So far it's UT, UC Boulder, Washington, Texas State and wait for it, Texas Bulldog Aggies. /Shivers/.

He's taking 5 AP classes next year, is a pretty good student but didn't work Pass Fail as well as he should have and lost some traction there. His freshman year was also subpar comparitvely coming off covid.

Varsity athlete quitting to focus on School and admissions process for senior year
And hopefully shadow various careers to rule out what he doesn't want to do.

School recs for academic level just outside UT?
Any ideas on helping him narrow a path?

I'll read through the thread over the weekend. But this shit needs to move fast, for applications in Aug.

Have y'all considered near by state schools that waive out of state tuition? My youngest didn't want to do the CAP program but wanted a flagship school and the "experience."

He ended up a biochem major north of the Red River. It's not something I like to discuss but my son is happy with his decision.

[jimmyjazz 45428]

Depending on department, I'd put UDub above the others you listed.  @Beau Vine can surely speak to UDub and Texas State with some authority.  I haven't heard fantastic things about Boulder from parents who have sent their kids there recently, it's pricey and somewhat of a party school.  (My cousin did his PhD in AeroEng there, though, and raves about it, but that was almost 30 years ago.)

I'd look at some Big 10 schools -- most are good to great.  Michigan is probably a stretch, but Illinois and Wisconsin might not be.  Minnesota, Maryland, and Penn State should be do-able.

What majors is he considering?