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This game is great, both teams are doing different things well. I'm sure Mavs and Twolves fans teams are having heart palpations right now, but for a neutral observer this is a breath of fresh air over most of the other games in the playoffs so far. Hoping we get 7 games this series with a dozen lead changes in the 4th each time. 

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1 minute ago, gofuckyourself said:

Damn that overhead angle it looks like a good putback.

Yeah it was close, but I would guess 75% of the time it wouldnt be called interference. 

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Just now, aggie08 said:

Did the ball somehow go back towards the rim before he touches it?

Yes. It had a ton of backspin. That picture is beyond worthless. 

Just now, MNLonghornFUKM said:


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Do you understand what “above the cylinder” means?

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13 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

Yes. It had a ton of backspin.

I mean, that's not really how physics works with basketball and the amount of spin we're talking about here. Once it leaves the cylinder on a rebound, it's not coming back on its own. KAT's initial touch brought it back.

That said, the refs absolutely made the right call on the court. They're looking at slow-mo, not frame-by-frame still shots. On replay, it never appeared to fully leave the cylinder. No issue with the call whatsoever.

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3 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:


Here’s a better shot

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At least this photo is a better attempt. After watching 6 years of shitty soccer VAR I can tell you that camera angles matter.
 

If you want to know if the ball is above the cylinder in that shot you would need a camera directly above the rim. This angle 2 feet behind the backboard isn’t going to tell you anything definitively. They reviewed the call in their command center and were fine with it. 

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So your bitching about a close play while admitting they got away with a backcourt on the next possession? Makes sense .

Yea. I have balls to admit something. You defended THJs blatant flop.

Also the back court play probably doesn’t even happen if they corrected the offensive goaltending call. Totally different game
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Yea. I have balls to admit something. You defended THJs blatant flop.

Also the back court play probably doesn’t even happen if they corrected the offensive goaltending call. Totally different game

Weird , they reviewed the so called “flop” and the goaltending and it stood , must be conspiracy .
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Looks about right. Idk about Sabonis and Haliburton but the last spot or two always gets murky. 

5 players of the 15 accounted for 1 total playoff win. AD, Bron, Steph, Book and KD. Giannis also DNP.
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"Bring Ya Ass"  😋

Really enjoying this wolves/mavs series on TNT much more than Eastern Finals.  Wish they would lose Draymond though...

Also, Thanks to everyone that answered why they hate the boston/celtics -- great stuff.

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24 years of All-NBA 1st team players. Had to look up the 5th guy in 2015, because that is a portrait of a very young looking Marc Gasol. Funny to see Jokic left off 2023 when he should have been MVP and won the championship. The 2024 group feels like it will stay the same for next few year, but I could see Antman knocking Tatum out soon. 

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Long time coming, will be interesting to see who they hire and if that helps Mitchell sign an extension. 

Cavaliers fire coach J.B. Bickerstaff after five seasons

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Despite the franchise's first berth in the Eastern Conference semifinals in six seasons, the Cleveland Cavaliers dismissed coach J.B. Bickerstaff on Thursday morning.

Bickerstaff, 45, ushered the Cavaliers through a rebuild, winning 99 regular-season games in the past two seasons, but the franchise now embarks on a search that it hopes will land a coach to take Cleveland deeper into the Eastern Conference playoffs.

Coaching Wins, Cavaliers history

J.B. Bickerstaff finishes his Cavaliers tenure with the fifth-most wins by a coach in franchise history.

COACH    WINS    SEASONS
Lenny Wilkens    316    7
Mike Brown    305    6
Bill Fitch    304    9
Mike Fratello    248    6
J.B. Bickerstaff    170    5
After replacing John Beilein as interim coach in 2020, Bickerstaff had a 170-159 (.517) record in five seasons with the Cavaliers.

Cleveland was the Eastern Conference's fourth seed with a 48-34 record, beating the Orlando Magic in an opening-round seven-game series. Boston defeated Cleveland 4-1 in the conference semifinals as center Jarrett Allen and All-Star guard Donovan Mitchell missed the final two games.

Cleveland wants a fresh approach, and president of basketball operations Koby Altman and general manager Mike Gansey will embark on a coaching search.

Altman and Gansey will start to formulate a list of candidates in the coming days, but one to watch is Golden State Warriors assistant Kenny Atkinson, who led the Brooklyn Nets to the playoffs with current Cavs Allen and Caris LeVert.

The Cavaliers have a significant talent base, with All-Star guards Mitchell and Darius Garland and a frontcourt of Allen and Evan Mobley.

Under Bickerstaff, the Cavaliers were seventh in defensive efficiency with Mitchell, Garland, Mobley and Allen playing only 28 games together this season, according to ESPN Stats & Information research.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40203249/sources-cavaliers-fire-coach-jb-bickerstaff-playoff-exit

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12 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

Long time coming, will be interesting to see who they hire and if that helps Mitchell sign an extension. 

Cavaliers fire coach J.B. Bickerstaff after five seasons

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40203249/sources-cavaliers-fire-coach-jb-bickerstaff-playoff-exit

Coaching (especially in the NBA) is a thankless job but firing him after he led them out of the doldrums, got them to the 2nd round and competed with a 66 win team before almost all of his team went on IR seems crazy.

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12 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

Long time coming, will be interesting to see who they hire and if that helps Mitchell sign an extension. 

Cavaliers fire coach J.B. Bickerstaff after five seasons

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40203249/sources-cavaliers-fire-coach-jb-bickerstaff-playoff-exit

They are going to let Mitchell hire the coach, essentially. It's all ridiculous because he's going to sign the extension no matter what. If he doesn't like what's going on in Cleveland, then he just asks out. There's all this posturing these days about free agents and movement, but when was the last time a bona fide star free agent actually got to the market? There is no downside to taking the extension. You maximize your money and get your security, and then just pull the cord if you want out. So, so dumb.

The more interesting thing is Garland. Seems like he's going to ask for a trade if they keep Mitchell. 

Just now, d2o said:

Coaching (especially in the NBA) is a thankless job but firing him after he led them out of the doldrums, got them to the 2nd round and competed with a 66 win team before almost all of his team went on IR seems crazy.

Bickerstaff was a dead man walking. They released a full hit piece on him within minutes of their getting bounced from the playoffs. He's at odds with the front office. Mitchell (and it seems, much of the team) lost confidence in him. And he's just not a very good coach in general. That team didn't win because of him. They won in spite of him. 

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1 hour ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

They are going to let Mitchell hire the coach, essentially. It's all ridiculous because he's going to sign the extension no matter what. If he doesn't like what's going on in Cleveland, then he just asks out. There's all this posturing these days about free agents and movement, but when was the last time a bona fide star free agent actually got to the market? There is no downside to taking the extension. You maximize your money and get your security, and then just pull the cord if you want out. So, so dumb.

The more interesting thing is Garland. Seems like he's going to ask for a trade if they keep Mitchell. 

Bickerstaff was a dead man walking. They released a full hit piece on him within minutes of their getting bounced from the playoffs. He's at odds with the front office. Mitchell (and it seems, much of the team) lost confidence in him. And he's just not a very good coach in general. That team didn't win because of him. They won in spite of him. 

I guess Kawhi was the last big FA signing?  Although debatable if there was ever a “market” for him because he wanted to go back to California. Before that I’m guessing it’s LeBron to Lakers/Durant and Kyrie to Brooklyn?

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49 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Since folks love TNT NBA crew... fyi

TNT to air select College Football Playoff games

https://footballscoop.com/news/tnt-to-air-select-college-football-playoff-games

My first thought was, "I would love to watch Barkley and Shaq go off on the A&M band and yell leaders". But then I realized it said playoff games and not "minor bowl games before Christmas" and got a sad.

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