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7 hours ago, safe sex said:

When Democrats try to run on soundbites and emotion, they get pushed about their policy goals. Kamala tried campaigning on vibes for a while, and then the entire media ecosystem was all "What's Kamala's plan for x, y, and z, over and over and over again while completely ignoring Trump's utter lack of a plan. And the Republicans, of course, were even lying about having concepts of a plan.

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU COMPETE WHEN YOU ARE HELD TO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT STANDARDS?

I will again refer to the GOP’s closed-loop propaganda ecosystem. 

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7 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

The more closed a loop is, the more quickly it collapses and fragile it becomes. Democrats need to focus their energies on infecting and coopting the GOP propaganda apparatus, an equivalent apparatus would just make things worse and efforts to that purpose are wasted.

You’re right, Navalny should have just used the VGTRK against Putin, why didn’t he hire a marketing expert to tell him that. So easy. 

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6 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

he must have a ton of sephora points 

+1.   ^^^^^^^This post needs more love^^^^^^

 

Also, what is up with the derails lately? First the damn gerrymandering and now the Democratic Party and all that ails it debate. 🙄

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1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

You’re right, Navalny should have just used the VGTRK against Putin, why didn’t he hire a marketing expert to tell him that. So easy. 

We aren’t there yet, come on.

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9 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

@TwiceHorn has assured me that the first duty of a lawyer is to their client and that the legal profession is definitely NOT in an ethical crisis, so everything’s jake!

I did no such thing (assure you that the legal profession is not in crisis).  I explained that the first duty to the client creates counterintuitive ethical situations.

This has nothing to do with that.

But yeah, with guys like Bove and Edward Martin violating all kinds of governmental if not ethical norms, parts of the profession are indeed moving to crisis mode.

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14 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

We aren’t there yet, come on.

You don't think there's a State Media apparatus working in coordination with trumpco to make chuds think they're making the frogs gay and the mice trans?

Would you be interested in buying a beach house in Nebraska by any chance? I hear there's some nice bridges for sale too

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18 minutes ago, sasquatch69 said:

Nothing against you for posting this, but I’m so tired of BTC, Occupy Democrats, etc. posting again and again with “TOTAL TAKEDOWN OF TRUMP”/“REPUBLICANS EXPOSED”/“MAGA RIDICULED” kind of shit. It’s just fodder for the base, and doesn’t tell the real story, which is that the current admin continues to do pretty much whatever it wants and no one is mounting an actual effective effort to stop them. It’s just hopium.

100% agree. I think BTC, Luke Beasley, David Pakman, etc. are good people generally trying to do good work, but they all partake in the engagement machine for clicks/subscribers and it results in nothing moving the needle. 

 

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23 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I did no such thing (assure you that the legal profession is not in crisis).  I explained that the first duty to the client creates counterintuitive ethical situations.

This has nothing to do with that.

But yeah, with guys like Bove and Edward Martin violating all kinds of governmental if not ethical norms, parts of the profession are indeed moving to crisis mode.

I think you are understating reality. When it has been proven by actions that laws and the constitution that underlies them don’t have to be followed, I would posit that the entire legal profession has been turned on its head. Our judicial system is a joke and works to the benefit of the rich and powerful. If polled, what percentage of respondents would respond that they have trust in our legal system? I have lost all trust and I come from a family of attorneys, including a federal judge appointed by Truman.

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36 minutes ago, Captainant said:

You don't think there's a State Media apparatus working in coordination with trumpco to make chuds think they're making the frogs gay and the mice trans?

Of course I do. But it’s not impenetrable yet. Democrats can still get on Twitter, Fox, Rogan, etc. 

And of course one of you will say the deck is stacked against them, and of course it is. But asymmetry is interesting and comes with its own set of advantages.

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10 minutes ago, royiv said:

I think you are understating reality. When it has been proven by actions that laws and the constitution that underlies them don’t have to be followed, I would posit that the entire legal profession has been turned on its head. Our judicial system is a joke and works to the benefit of the rich and powerful. If polled, what percentage of respondents would respond that they have trust in our legal system? I have lost all trust and I come from a family of attorneys, including a federal judge appointed by Truman.

If polled, what percentage of respondents would respond that they have trust in our medical system? Financial system? Local, state, federal government? Which of those systems works to the benefit of the rich and powerful?

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3 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Of course I do. But it’s not impenetrable yet. Democrats can still get on Twitter, Fox, Rogan, etc. 

And of course one of you will say the deck is stacked against them, and of course it is. But asymmetry is interesting and comes with its own set of advantages.

I don't disagree that they should be getting out there and counter programming, but it's not about reasoning and appeal. It's about giving permission to hate. That's the core selling pitch for the republican party. 

Democracy relies on us not resorting to our baser instincts. Trump is permission to be the mosr base and id version of yourself that you can muster.

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4 minutes ago, gernblansten said:

If polled, what percentage of respondents would respond that they have trust in our medical system? Financial system? Local, state, federal government? Which of those systems works to the benefit of the rich and powerful?

Whataboutism at its finest right here, folks.

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Posted
Just now, gernblansten said:

Avoidance at its worst right there, folks.

Fuck off. Everything sucks. Don’t try to act like one aspect sucking justifies everything else sucking, dipshit.

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JFC. These dudes are so damn stupid. AI told find the word "Gay". Delete all objects.

Pics of WWII Bomber Flagged For Removal Under Pete Hegseth’s ‘DEI’ Purge — Because ‘Gay’ Is in Its Name

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s Pentagon’s DEI purge is wiping out more than just diversity initiatives — it’s reportedly erasing history, as images of Black soldiers, pioneering female service members, and even photos of World War II Hiroshima bomber Enola Gay, have been flagged for deletion.

The database of flagged content, which was obtained by the Associated Press and confirmed by the U.S. government, shows more than 26,000 images already marked for removal across military branches, though one official estimates the real total could exceed 100,000 when factoring in social media and websites.

Hegseth ordered the sweeping purge, giving the military until Wednesday to remove any content that highlights diversity initiatives.

Among the targeted materials: photos of the Tuskegee Airmen, the nation’s first Black military pilots; an all-female C-17 crew during Women’s History Month; and images of Medal of Honor recipient Pfc. Harold Gonsalves. Even a routine Army Corps of Engineers project was flagged — apparently because an engineer in the photo had the last name “Gay.”

https://www.mediaite.com/news/pics-of-wwii-bomber-flagged-for-removal-under-pete-hegseths-dei-purge-because-gay-is-in-its-name/

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Posted
1 minute ago, Captainant said:

I don't disagree that they should be getting out there and counter programming, but it's not about reasoning and appeal. It's about giving permission to hate. That's the core selling pitch for the republican party. 

Democracy relies on us not resorting to our baser instincts. Trump is permission to be the mosr base and id version of yourself that you can muster.

I agree with that, but Trump’s supporters suport him because he acts like he wins. Just pause for a moment and imagine how Trump would have been eviscerated by Reagan, Obama, Bill Clinton, Biden in his prime, or even W?

And it wouldn’t have been because they were bigger liars, or because of policy or any of that. They would have made him the butt of the joke constantly, jammed him up until he popped, and made him look weak. Among many other things, Democrats need to change their style. That’s why I said their best play for this ridiculous speech was to just sit there, roll their eyes, and laugh out lough at the stupid parts. 

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1 minute ago, royiv said:

Fuck off. Everything sucks. Don’t try to act like one aspect sucking justifies everything else sucking, dipshit.

To sum up, you state an opinion, get asked about it, and turn into a little bitch ass. Very Trump like. 

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2 minutes ago, gernblansten said:

To sum up, you state an opinion, get asked about it, and turn into a little bitch ass. Very Trump like. 

Fuck yeah, Trump is the man! MAGA!

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Posted (edited)
9 hours ago, safe sex said:

When Democrats try to run on soundbites and emotion, they get pushed about their policy goals. Kamala tried campaigning on vibes for a while, and then the entire media ecosystem was all "What's Kamala's plan for x, y, and z, over and over and over again while completely ignoring Trump's utter lack of a plan. And the Republicans, of course, were even lying about having concepts of a plan.

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU COMPETE WHEN YOU ARE HELD TO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT STANDARDS?

Fucking this, the handwringing over what the democrats should do is pointless. The party is far broader and no matter what the candidate does or says half the party will be angry that they’re too moderate or too progressive. There’s a reason the “poorly educated” dominate the right, you just have to distract them with a trans girl playing volleyball, and you can literally spit in their face on everything else and they’ll vote in support. Theirs is no way to change that dynamic, we’re a despicable country whose majority are hateful despicable people first and foremost. We’re at the end. The other thread derailed over who wishes or supports terrorism in the US, it doesn’t matter, it’s gonna happen either way, and is beneficial to the right because they will just declare martial law, i.e., actual dictatorship. That’s not hyperbole, and everyone here knows it even those who will pretend otherwise.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Next on the list is removing drag coefficient from all aerospace engineering textbooks.

oh no! Not my transitive proofs! How am I gonna build state machines now??

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25 minutes ago, gernblansten said:

If polled, what percentage of respondents would respond that they have trust in our medical system? Financial system? Local, state, federal government? Which of those systems works to the benefit of the rich and powerful?

I have gratitude to the medical system, not disdain, for its handling of the Covid crisis. The legal system has shit the bed in the most disgusting manner imaginable as it enabled turnip’s return to power.

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10 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

The more closed a loop is, the more quickly it collapses and fragile it becomes.

There is absolutely nothing since the advent of Fox News that shows this to be true.

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7 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

 

 

You forgot the middle part:

American Majority: YAY! libtears!

If you think loud pushback changes anything you’re delusional. Anytime dems are outspoken they lose support, period, regardless of what they do or say. If they had refused as a party to attend the speech they’d get crushed in the midterms as opposed to just loosing badly which is what’s gonna happen either way.

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1 minute ago, Willfully Horn said:

I have gratitude to the medical system, not disdain, for its handling the Covid crisis. The legal system has shit the bed in the most disgusting manner imaginable as it enabled turnip’s return to power.

I'm glad that you appreciate the medical systems handling of the Covid crisis. Did the legal system do okay keeping Trump from retaining power the first time? I'm happy to listen to your opinion on how the legal system shit the bed in the most disgusting manner imaginable enabling him to return to power. 

Posted
9 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Next on the list is removing drag coefficient from all aerospace engineering textbooks.

Transportation, transformers, transistors, and translations will all be illegal by next Tuesday.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Transportation, transformers, transistors, and translations will all be illegal by next Tuesday.

all ok. you make trans fat illegal? ....you will have a real problem with MAGA then

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2 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

Hot Wheels has already banned Trans Siberian Orchestra from Texas.

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I might be ok with that if I have to hear their song in November again.

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6 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Transportation, transformers, transistors, and translations will all be illegal by next Tuesday.

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Posted (edited)
21 minutes ago, gernblansten said:

I'm glad that you appreciate the medical systems handling of the Covid crisis. Did the legal system do okay keeping Trump from retaining power the first time? I'm happy to listen to your opinion on how the legal system shit the bed in the most disgusting manner imaginable enabling him to return to power. 

Jack Smith was appointed in 2023, and not in 2021.. Appeals in all of turnip’s cases were not handled as expeditiously as humanly possible. And a failed coup ringleader was allowed on ballots and was elected leader of the free world. 
 

Edited to say that the legal system performed less than admirably in the cases brought after the election of 2020. Sixty plus lawsuits? Outrageous. Torrent of lies, in effect, unchecked. Sure, turnip lost those cases, just as reasonable folks explaining fact counters any given propagandist lie. Cumulatively, the lie is believed.

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Just now, Willfully Horn said:

Jack Smith was appointed in 2023, and not in 2020. Appeals in all of turnip’s cases were not handled as expeditiously as humanly possible. And a failed coup ringleader was allowed on ballots and was elected leader of the free world. 

The Supreme Court gave Trump broad immunity for acts committed as President.

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13 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

Hot Wheels has already banned Trans Siberian Orchestra from Texas.

Amas 2019 GIF by AMAs

Imagine what they'll do to all the fruity trust fund libs living out in Marfa and the surrounding Trans Pecos. 

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29 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Next on the list is removing drag coefficient from all aerospace engineering textbooks.

What could go wrong?

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At least that plane wasn't WOKE.

8 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Jack Smith was appointed in 2023, and not in 2020. Appeals in all of turnip’s cases were not handled as expeditiously as humanly possible. And a failed coup ringleader was allowed on ballots and was elected leader of the free world

I think we can safely say that the US has yielded that title.  I never thought such a thing was possible.

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12 minutes ago, royiv said:

The Supreme Court gave Trump broad immunity for acts committed as President.

Is SCOTUS not a part of the legal system? The broader legal community might have focused on that decision and made that the hill to die on while a rational person was POTUS.

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With the new war on Trans, gay, etc, cuz words are bad, rainbows are next. Out in Miramar and at Langley they are training how to shoot down rainbows.

Just like they did that chinese balloon.

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7 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Is SCOTUS not a part of the legal system? The broader legal community might have focused on that decision and made that the hill to die on while a rational person was POTUS.

They don’t even have a code of ethics. The Buda Planning and Zoning Commission is more bound to conduct itself subject to the law than the Supreme Court.

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1 hour ago, royiv said:

I think you are understating reality. When it has been proven by actions that laws and the constitution that underlies them don’t have to be followed, I would posit that the entire legal profession has been turned on its head. Our judicial system is a joke and works to the benefit of the rich and powerful. If polled, what percentage of respondents would respond that they have trust in our legal system? I have lost all trust and I come from a family of attorneys, including a federal judge appointed by Truman.

That's fair.  Certainly wasn't up to prosecuting Trump.  Not like it would have made one tiny bit of difference.

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2 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

They don’t even have a code of ethics. The Buda Planning and Zoning Commission is more bound to conduct itself subject to the law than the Supreme Court.

How do you know I have issues with the Buda Planning and Zoning Commission, too?

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16 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Jack Smith was appointed in 2023, and not in 2021.. Appeals in all of turnip’s cases were not handled as expeditiously as humanly possible. And a failed coup ringleader was allowed on ballots and was elected leader of the free world. 
 

Edited to say that the legal system performed less than admirably in the cases brought after the election of 2020. Sixty plus lawsuits? Outrageous. Torrent of lies, in effect, unchecked. Sure, turnip lost those cases, just as reasonable folks explaining fact counters any given propagandist lie. Cumulatively, the lie is believed.

I share the opinion Jack Smith should have been appointed in 2021 and not 2023. I'm not sure the end result changes, though. The part about the appeals not being handled fast enough isn't specific enough for me to comment, but I think we all wish the wheels of justice turned faster. In court, Trump was convicted of multiple felonies and found liable for sexual assault, so I tend to blame the American voters for electing the coup ringleader.

Regarding the edit: all the courts can do is rule on the cases brought, and as you point out, Trump lost those cases. The courts can't make people believe the truth instead of propaganda.

I appreciate you taking the time to rationally express your thoughts on the issue.

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12 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

That's fair.  Certainly wasn't up to prosecuting Trump.  Not like it would have made one tiny bit of difference.

A conviction that carried a finding of an act of insurrection would have absolutely made a difference, in that Calvinball would unequivocally be recognized as superior to the Constitution in the eyes of the current SCOTUS, assuming their immunity finding came down as it did. In that scenario, with months to go before the election, we might have been witness to impeachment proceedings of SCOTUS members.

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22 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Is SCOTUS not a part of the legal system? The broader legal community might have focused on that decision and made that the hill to die on while a rational person was POTUS.

It is. I was agreeing with you and putting another log on the fire. 

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11 hours ago, Gap03 said:

I think what you mean is that the Dems should market to the single-issue morons and the monsters of our society - unfortunately, the Rs have a monopoly on them, and they have to be fed with the type of malicious bullshit that we're seeing now, so uhhh ...

Very good posts, my friends.

These moronic and monster tendencies were already present, but it was Reagan and Rush who started galvanizing them into the malicious and self-righteous political force that they are today. Aside from wickedness, their strongest trait is their absurd level of confidence in their beliefs. 

Fuck Reagan and we should have buried Rush alive.

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