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*(this is an obvious, "gird one's loins" type of situation)*

That's Dad's phrase. Posted as PhxHorn on GoBig12/360 and Hornsfans. Man it's fun to see people using some of his phrases after all these years as part of the Longhorn lexicon. What a dude. Thanks @MuellerHorn.

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22 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

I've read this four times and still don't understand it.

It's ok. As someone who lives out of state and doesn't listen to sports radio, I just learned that the football commentator and and the Lt. Governor of Texas were two different people. I'd just always kind of assumed he must have been a media personality who liked football before he got into politics.

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9 minutes ago, Plorant said:

I'd add though that Manning coached by McVay in the NFL would be amazing.  I just don't want Arch to leave after this year. 

 

Snead may have done a master class move to get some inside info on whether to keep the picks in 26 or stockpile 27 picks to get Arch.

The Mannings might even be receptive to that kind of maneuvering rather than getting stuck going to the Browns or some other pathetic organization.

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2 minutes ago, texifornia said:

It's ok. As someone who lives out of state and doesn't listen to sports radio, I just learned that the football commentator and and the Lt. Governor of Texas were two different people. I'd just always kind of assumed he must have been a media personality who liked football before he got into politics.

The Lieutenant governor used to be on Houston radio as a sports guy

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4 minutes ago, texifornia said:

It's ok. As someone who lives out of state and doesn't listen to sports radio, I just learned that the football commentator and and the Lt. Governor of Texas were two different people. I'd just always kind of assumed he must have been a media personality who liked football before he got into politics.

He was a media personality who liked football.  He was the sports caster for the Houston CBS affiliate for years back in the 80s.  

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9 minutes ago, BornOrange said:

Snead may have done a master class move to get some inside info on whether to keep the picks in 26 or stockpile 27 picks to get Arch.

The Mannings might even be receptive to that kind of maneuvering rather than getting stuck going to the Browns or some other pathetic organization.

This is a total nothingburger. The picks are their own and the Falcons. Unless Stafford is hurt all year and the Rams tank for the #1 pick, they would have to give up way more than those two firsts to move to #1 overall to get Arch.
 

If Arch plays so well that he declares after this year, the team with the #1 overall pick probably wouldn’t be willing to trade out anyways. 

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15 minutes ago, BornOrange said:

Snead may have done a master class move to get some inside info on whether to keep the picks in 26 or stockpile 27 picks to get Arch.

The Mannings might even be receptive to that kind of maneuvering rather than getting stuck going to the Browns or some other pathetic organization.

The problem with that is whatever poverty ass franchise gets the #1 pick needs to have the good sense to take the Rams picks and trade down. If Arch is a sure fire 1-1 pick I just don’t think any potential franchise getting the #1 pick will be smart enough to take the offer and will just pick Arch for the hype and media buzz. Arch’s best hope is to get a similar situation that Joe Burrow got with Cincinnati, going to a poverty franchise but not the complete embarrassment that is the browns or Jets.

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11 minutes ago, BornOrange said:

The Lieutenant governor used to be on Houston radio as a sports guy

 

9 minutes ago, Gordon Shumway said:

He was a media personality who liked football.  He was the sports caster for the Houston CBS affiliate for years back in the 80s.  

Jesus, no wonder I got the two mixed up

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4 minutes ago, texifornia said:

 

Jesus, no wonder I got the two mixed up

Sometimes I forget how young you are.  Dan Patrick the radio host was a longtime ESPN employee.  He's on the Mount Rushmore of Sports Center hosts.  Back when Sports Center was a big deal, he was a big deal.

This commercial back in the day always got me:

 

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31 minutes ago, UncleSonny said:

Small sample size, but Arch didn't target TEs a ton in his action last season. Zero completion to a TE against UTSA, two combined catches for 15 yards between Gunner and Davis against ULM, and then Gunner did have 5 catches against MSU, but only had 23 yards on them. 

Could be game plans or just a coincidence, but it does go against the traditional narrative of a young QB relying on his TE as a safety blanket. 

 

I feel like the gameplan is never set around the TE in Sarkisian's offense, but the position is often the safety valve. Accordingly, there are games where the role isn't really needed in the passing game. UTSA and La Monroe felt like two of those games. 

21 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

2025 Freshman Class | What to Expect (Thursday AM) - CJ Vogel

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Predictions and Expectations for the 2025 Freshman Class

The No. 1 ranked class in the country is a little over five weeks away from the start of their careers in Austin, Texas. With an expectation that this class will provide some juice to help assist the Longhorns over the hump and into the National Championship game in 2025, I wanted to run down my current expectations for their first season as Longhorns.

25 new faces, there will be plenty of contributors here in the fall.

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#8 QB KJ Lacey – Redshirt

All in all, a redshirt year will be the plan for Lacey in 2025. Texas has been fortunate enough to redshirt its last three quarterbacks – Maalik Murphy, Arch Manning and Trey Owens. A year ago, Owens saw 27 total snaps, split between UTSA and ULM. That would be a dream scenario for Lacey in 2025.

 

#24 RB Rickey Stewart – Redshirt
#31 RB James Simon – Rotational Piece

The Texas running backs room has plenty of bodies, but finding guys who can separate themselves from the pack will be key in fall camp. Based off of the returns from the spring, James Simon certainly has a case for early contributions. A redshirt year for Rickey Stewart is most likely the plan, a great opportunity to build some armor and prepare for 2026.

 

#2 WR Jaime Ffrench – Rotational Piece/Redshirt Candidate
#7 WR Kaliq Lockett – Rotational Piece
#11 WR Michael Terry III – Redshirt Candidate
#17 WR Daylan McCutcheon – Key Contributor

Handicapping the wide receiver position is quite difficult. A year ago, only six receivers saw more than 30 snaps, and that includes one that quit midseason. Texas has four receivers now in the "circle of trust" and it appears to me that Daylan McCutcheon is the closest of the group to scratching the rotation full time. Next of the bunch is Kaliq Lockett who has really turned it on in the summer. My gut tells me Ffrench won't redshirt, but I still am bearish on just how much we will see of him in 2025. Basically, will he break the four game threshold? That's TBD. The same applies for Michael Terry III, for now.

 

#81 TE Nick Townsend – Special Teams Ace / Rotational Piece
#85 TE Emaree Winston – Redshirt Candidate

Texas has been very cautious with its tight ends under Steve Sarkisian. Remember, neither Ja'Tavion Sanders, nor Gunnar Helm, saw meaningful time as true freshmen. Could that change for Nick Townsend, a jumbo athlete OTF has raved about? It sure could, but originally in a special teams role in my eyes. I believe the 12 personnel package to begin the year will be Endries/Washington, but Townsend's physicality will raise the level of the room instantly.

 

#59 OL Devin Coleman – Redshirt
#71 OT Nick Brooks – Key Contributor
#76 OL Jackson Christian – Redshirt
#78 OL Jordan Coleman – Redshirt

As we have discussed over the last two years, the Longhorn offensive line is in a spot of luxury where true freshmen are not needed to see the field before they are truly ready. Again, it is a luxury. I am expecting the Coleman brothers and Christian to redshirt this fall. However, Nick Brooks at the moment is in that OT3 position and could even make a run for play time with a strong fall camp. If a tackle goes down, it would be Brooks to see the field first off the sideline.

 

#33 DL Myron Charles – Rotational Piece
#90 DL Josiah Sharma – Rotational Piece

A year ago Alex January played in 13 games, while Melvin Hills did not suit for a game. Similarly to the OL, Texas doesn't need to play its freshmen in the trenches. Texas likes both of its interior guys quite a bit, and while they added a stable of portal transfers in the offseason, there should be enough opportunity to get both pieces on the field to break the redshirt. This holds especially true if the plan is to not take 4-5 in the portal again in 2026.

 

#15 EDGE Justus Terry – Solid Contributor
#40 EDGE Lance Jackson – Solid Contributor
#46 EDGE Smith Orogbo – Redshirt

If the Texas EDGE room wasn't as deep as it currently was, I would have both Lance Jackson and Justus Terry in the conversation to be immediate impact guys. However, fighting over snaps from Simmons-Vasek-Burke-Umeozulu plus Spence/Moore and possibly Hill won't be available right away. There will be plenty of snaps for Terry and Jackson in 2025. For Smith Orogbo, this is a great chance to rehab his knee, and add to his frame – Orogbo stands currently at 222 pounds per the Texas roster.

 

#30 LB Bo Barnes – Special Teams Contributor/Rotational Piece
#37 LB Jonathan Cunningham – Redshirt

Again, Texas is rather deep at linebacker. Ty'Anthony Smith a year ago saw 185 snaps on special forces and 98 snaps on defense, numbers I believe will be duplicated by Barnes in year one. Barnes is just too big, and too fast to leave sidelined for special forces. As for Cunningham, I could certainly see him being a special teams piece as well. However, at 6–2.5, 195, I would like to see some additional armor added to his frame, and believe he would be suited for a traditional redshirt year.

 

#11 CB Kade Phillips – Solid Contributor
#25 CB Caleb Chester – Redshirt
#29 CB Graceson Littleton – Rotational Piece

The names of Kade Phillips and Graceson Littleton have frequently popped up in conversations with team sources throughout the spring and summer. At the very least, the two will see time in special forces. A year ago, Kobe Black saw 110 snaps in nine games, will that many snaps be available this fall? I believe that will be determined by the margin of victories for the Longhorns. But both are first off the bench candidates given their quick ascent.

 

#9 DB Jonah Williams – Solid Contributor
#13 DB Zelus Hicks – Redshirt

I have no doubt you will see Zelus Hicks on the field in 2025, but do question if he breaks the four game regular season barrier. For now, that is my hold up. As for Jonah Williams, even after no spring session, he will be a rotational piece. Williams has added to his frame a good five pounds since the conclusion of the baseball season and will be fighting for time on the field with Jordon Johnson-Rubell and Xavier Filsaime in the S4 converation. At the end of the day, Williams might just be your most valuable special teams piece as well.

 

Lockett, Ffrench, and Michael Terry are all getting paid handsomely. If they're that far behind McCutcheon, that's portends a grim return.

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5 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

This is a total nothingburger. The picks are their own and the Falcons. Unless Stafford is hurt all year and the Rams tank for the #1 pick, they would have to give up way more than those two firsts to move to #1 overall to get Arch.
 

If Arch plays so well that he declares after this year, the team with the #1 overall pick probably wouldn’t be willing to trade out anyways. 

 

5 minutes ago, Not a Sock said:

The problem with that is, is whatever poverty ass franchise gets the #1 pick needs to have the good sense to take the Rams picks and trade down. If Arch is a sure fire 1-1 pick I just don’t think any potential franchise getting the #1 pick will be smart enough to take the offer and will just pick Arch for the hype and media buzz.

Do either of you have any idea of how Elway ended up at Denver or how Eli MANNING ended up in New York?

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19 minutes ago, Not a Sock said:

Arch’s best hope is to get a similar situation that Joe Burrow got with Cincinnati, going to a poverty franchise but not the complete embarrassment that is the browns or Jets.

cincinnati is an ohio dumpster fire of an organization.  they are absolutely an embarrassment.  burrow got fucked when they drafted him. 

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8 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

I like the idea of getting concerned about Arch Manning's NFL career before he's ever taken a snap as the long term starter at Texas. 

To me, Sarkisian said it best. When asked about whether Manning would declare for the draft after this year, or stay in college an additional season like his uncles, Sarkisian replied, "I hope this season makes it a really tough decision."

I think he’s going to play the next two years, but I do find it intriguing that an NFL GM has a mole inside our football team.

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49 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I feel like the gameplan is never set around the TE in Sarkisian's offense, but the position is often the safety valve. Accordingly, there are games where the role isn't really needed in the passing game. UTSA and La Monroe felt like two of those games. 

Lockett, Ffrench, and Michael Terry are all getting paid handsomely. If they're that far behind McCutcheon, that's portends a grim return.

I can think of another fine young talented receiver that went to Lucas Lovejoy as well.  Parker McStud.

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27 minutes ago, Redneck Mutha said:

Fuck Jerry Jones.

True and correct, but I will note that the grandson talked up Overshown to Jerrah and helped get DMO drafted at a good spot. Plus DMO is a lifelong Cowboys fan, so Paxton Anderson helped him achieve that dream. The sins of the father should not yada yada yada. 

19 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

I can think of another fine young talented receiver that went to Lucas Lovejoy as well.  Parker McStud.

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2 hours ago, UncleSonny said:

Small sample size, but Arch didn't target TEs a ton in his action last season. Zero completion to a TE against UTSA, two combined catches for 15 yards between Gunner and Davis against ULM, and then Gunner did have 5 catches against MSU, but only had 23 yards on them. 

Could be game plans or just a coincidence, but it does go against the traditional narrative of a young QB relying on his TE as a safety blanket. 

 

Not sure what this offense will look like, but I expect it to look more aggressive and explosive this year. I think we will see more of the field being used in the passing game. Quinn was pretty conservative in his decision making. Arch seems to have a little more gunslinger to him. I still expect a lot of the screen game, but a lot more PA shots down the field. That might cut back on TE catches. I do worry about TE blocking. It hasnt been strong the last couple years and I am not sure anyone on the roster is an upgrade in that department currently

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55 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

I can think of another fine young talented receiver that went to Lucas Lovejoy as well.  Parker McStud.

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OSU is going to have no idea what to do when we roll out the Chattahoochee package.

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Honest question: which has a higher likelihood of happening - a) Jaggy McJaggerson catches a TD against Ohio State or b) he doesn’t see the field except when he’s spotted carrying Wingo’s equipment for pregame warm-ups?

A TD. We have a top 4 currently and that beautiful son of a bitch is one of them. Do you think one of the freshmen will pass him up in the next month, to the point where he doesn’t even play in the opener?
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7 minutes ago, Red Five said:


A TD. We have a top 4 currently and that beautiful son of a bitch is one of them. Do you think one of the freshmen will pass him up in the next month, to the point where he doesn’t even play in the opener?

Daylan McCutcheon for the win!

Also, you doubt the emergence of Aaron Butler at your own peril, sir. 

As I think about this team in comparison to the rest of the CFB landscape heading into the 2025 season, I continue to struggle with the idea that this is a title contending team while being forced to play Alan Jackson's illegitimate son in the regular rotation at WR. What the fuck is going on here?

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44 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Honest question: which has a higher likelihood of happening - a) Jaggy McJaggerson catches a TD against Ohio State or b) he doesn’t see the field except when he’s spotted carrying Wingo’s equipment for pregame warm-ups?

 

Got a line for that? No idea what to hedge with a line. 

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Daylan McCutcheon for the win!
Also, you doubt the emergence of Aaron Butler at your own peril, sir. 
As I think about this team in comparison to the rest of the CFB landscape heading into the 2025 season, I continue to struggle with the idea that this is a title contending team while being forced to play Alan Jackson's illegitimate son in the regular rotation at WR. What the fuck is going on here?

I will be actively rooting against every other skill player on the team because they take touches away from PL.
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5 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

For no definable reason, every time I see this guy’s name I think Entrails, not Endries. Entrails has got to be the worst nickname in sports history. 

Jack "Entrails" Endries earned his nickname for the way he would virtually disembowel opposing defenders with his power and strength. And literally that one time.

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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

Honest question: which has a higher likelihood of happening - a) Jaggy McJaggerson catches a TD against Ohio State or b) he doesn’t see the field except when he’s spotted carrying Wingo’s equipment for pregame warm-ups?

He's scoring the winning tuddy bruh

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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

As I think about this team in comparison to the rest of the CFB landscape heading into the 2025 season, I continue to struggle with the idea that this is a title contending team while being forced to play Alan Jackson's illegitimate son in the regular rotation at WR. What the fuck is going on here?

I mean, perhaps he's better at football than we're assuming? 

Cards on the table, I'm high on Parker Livingstone for the vibes and memes rather than anything football related, but are we just taking it for granted that he's not very good? It's his second year in the program, the reports from camp are good. At 6'4" he's our tallest scholarship WR. I don't think he's WR1 or anything but I wouldn't be shocked if they had a role for him to play. 

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34 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

I mean, perhaps he's better at football than we're assuming? 

Cards on the table, I'm high on Parker Livingstone for the vibes and memes rather than anything football related, but are we just taking it for granted that he's not very good? It's his second year in the program, the reports from camp are good. At 6'4" he's our tallest scholarship WR. I don't think he's WR1 or anything but I wouldn't be shocked if they had a role for him to play. 

I'll break the schtick again for a post and say that I don't disagree, but that's not really all that fun to do on this one.

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5 hours ago, SL Xpress said:

*(this is an obvious, "gird one's loins" type of situation)*

That's Dad's phrase. Posted as PhxHorn on GoBig12/360 and Hornsfans. Man it's fun to see people using some of his phrases after all these years as part of the Longhorn lexicon. What a dude. Thanks @MuellerHorn.

Even better, I don't believe I was ever on a message board with your dad. So, I picked it up from someone else, which makes the language cascade even greater for him. 

Either way, I have heard from others that he was a great poster.

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54 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

Even better, I don't believe I was ever on a message board with your dad. So, I picked it up from someone else, which makes the language cascade even greater for him. 

Either way, I have heard from others that he was a great poster.

38 Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,

Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?

Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.

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31 minutes ago, Horndog said:

38 Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,

Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?

Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.

Yep, Job 38: 1-3 (specifically, the KJV). I don't believe we're attributing the quote to PhxHorn; just the perpetuation here. This isn't something people really say, otherwise.

However, to be fair, that quote is still attributed to "his Father."

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55 minutes ago, SL Xpress said:

Dad was a lay preacher for his local church of christ. He made biblical references with regularity. Especially the old testament kind. Lots of jawbone of an ass references, too. 

That’s great. That’s about as rural, small town Texas as it gets right there. 
 

I hope you didn’t get your disdain for brevity from your dad, or his poor congregation never would’ve beat the baptists to lunch. They might not have even made it to dinner. 

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40 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

That’s great. That’s about as rural, small town Texas as it gets right there. 
 

I hope you didn’t get your disdain for brevity from your dad, or his poor congregation never would’ve beat the baptists to lunch. They might not have even made it to dinner. 

Amen, brother. We had a tradition in our church: Old Brother So-And-So would start prayin' and after a while, we'd start prayin' that he'd stop prayin'.

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9 hours ago, closetojumping said:

Honest question: which has a higher likelihood of happening - a) Jaggy McJaggerson catches a TD against Ohio State or b) he doesn’t see the field except when he’s spotted carrying Wingo’s equipment for pregame warm-ups?

Not only will he catch a TD. It’ll be on a fade route just to piss you off 

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18 hours ago, BornOrange said:

I think he’s going to play the next two years, but I do find it intriguing that an NFL GM has a mole inside our football team.

I’m leaning two years unless it’s a perfect situation. 

Per Charles Robinson, Rams view Arch as a Josh Allen level prospect 

 

March for Arch

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