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2 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Limp dick appeasement does nothing but embolden bad actors.  Were you in a coma in 2022?

I don’t really know what 2022 has to do with your disregard for soft power.  

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1 minute ago, LCHorn said:

I don’t really know what 2022 has to do with your disregard for soft power.  

Well you see in 2022 Joey Joe Joe put on a master class in “soft power” threatening to make Russia a “pariah state” if they invaded Ukraine.


 Or were you really in a coma then?

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49 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

There’s a very good article in The Atlantic today about Ukrainian advances in drone tech and how that underscores the vast new frontier in war fighting.  I’m sure there’s still a place for carrier groups but it’s not going to look like it did even a couple of years ago.  They are just way too expensive and vulnerable to act as a command asset in contested battle spaces.  

Yes drones are 100% the future of warfare, the things they have done to the Russian Navy alone would pretty much means we need to drop everything and start over in a way.

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7 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

One of the administration's chief advisors has openly claimed that there are "65 million illegals" in the US.  That is not true.  What is true is that there are 65 million HISPANICS in the US.  So, understand that this is an undeniable truth: to the current Regime, "hispanic" = "illegal."  And further understand that they have made it plain that anyone the Regime decides is "illegal" has no right to due process.  Due process only applies to Americans, not to illegals.

No due process for illegals + All hispanics are illegals = no due process for hispanics in the US.  The logical syllogism isn't a lengthy one, and it's pretty fucking direct and linear.  If you are hispanic in the US and you don't have a self-defense and/or exit plan, you're a fucking fool.

Fuck man….so well explained and so true.

This is exactly what is happening.

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2 hours ago, StassneyHorn said:

Before you know it midterm elections will be here, and if Dems are successful in the House all of the bitching and crying is done. If your kids aren’t teenagers now, they won’t remember most of this shit.

Or just go to Mexico. It’s easy. Go literally anywhere. Nobody is stopping you. Abandon any family you have and bang whores in SE Asia like every Aussie, Brit, and Russian with a passport.

Yeah man, my kid is about to graduate high school and all she knows is batshit crazy politics. Let that sink in.

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48 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Well you see in 2022 Joey Joe Joe put on a master class in “soft power” threatening to make Russia a “pariah state” if they invaded Ukraine.


 Or were you really in a coma then?

Maybe it has something to do with, oh you know, the backdoor phone calls to Putin and Netanyahu asking them not to cooperate so that he would be back in office. Or did you forget that part? You know how Reagan did.

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1 hour ago, linux said:

JFC soft power is getting your allies to play along, it has NOTHING to do with power to threaten Putin

And it worked, Russia is a pariah state. Trolly McTrollface knows that but prefers the new regime’s constant fluffing of Putin’s rotten hog. ‘Cause lib tears lol! Fuck Western European allies let’s go sit at the kids table with Kim Jong Dong and the fat fuck from Hungary.

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1 hour ago, linux said:

JFC soft power is getting your allies to play along, it has NOTHING to do with power to threaten Putin

And I thought MAGAts were opposed to expensive wars abroad?

But Trump sent weapons to Ukraine when Obama wouldn't, until Russia convinced MAGA that we shouldn't spend any money on Ukraine. Or that it was a "proxy war" or some other bad shit.

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Russia has never been more weakened, their military was expected to be powerful and not only was it exposed as a paper tiger that even Estonia could repel but their entire near infinite soviet stock of armor is completely gone.

Russia suffered the most humiliating hard military defeat possible, so much so that a mini NATO of Poland, Ukraine and the Baltics is more than powerful enough to repel any invasion from now to the foreseeable future, however they can probably still terrorize with glided bombs and drones, but that does not mean they can take any more territory. 

A simple analogy is that all the spearheads were dented and all they are left with are sticks 

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11 hours ago, Incredulity said:

“It worked”

holy shit.  You honestly believe that…amazing.

 

9 hours ago, linux said:

Russia has never been more weakened, their military was expected to be powerful and not only was it exposed as a paper tiger that even Estonia could repel but their entire near infinite soviet stock of armor is completely gone.

Russia suffered the most humiliating hard military defeat possible, so much so that a mini NATO of Poland, Ukraine and the Baltics is more than powerful enough to repel any invasion from now to the foreseeable future, however they can probably still terrorize with glided bombs and drones, but that does not mean they can take any more territory. 

A simple analogy is that all the spearheads were dented and all they are left with are sticks 

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But still fighting to take this tiny little country over 3 years later @Incredulity

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How much does politics/ political action impact the way you raise your kids?  I mean, it does present a plethora of opportunities to explore how not to act towards one another.  Having said that, I don't understand or possibly deliberately disagree with the guilt and shame some of you embrace.  We have multiple threads in this board discussing the opportunities our kids have had, and they are not gone because of the cheeto king or any of the other bad actors in Washington or Austin.

Just because something emanates from our politicians, whether it is racism, greed, hate, whatever..., fuck em.  The kids are looking at you first and handling dipshit behavior is part of that.  There's more than a handful of items where our "leaders" act a certain way, and our kids knew, that ain't how we fucking act/ conduct ourselves.

Are we supposed to be inspired by our politicians? Possibly, but I am not and have not been for most of my adult life.  Are there still basic principles that drive success?  You betcha, and the politicians don't control that shit either.  We can either sit around and feel sorry for ourselves and wait for hope to come from Washington...LMAO; or get off our asses and make something happen.  Lotsa folks appear to be scared of the color yellow.  Be better.  Convey an ounce of self confidence... or dwell in mamby-pamby land.  Your reaction to the bullshit has a bigger impact than the actual bullshit, IMHO.

 

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19 hours ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

 


Lastly, someone else mentioned tech as a career.  As someone in tech I'd be very cautious. AI has a lot of too much hype, but there is a reality of it as well.   And that reality is that the tech world is going to have a lot less jobs, especially entry level jobs.  Don't think they will be coming back.  No more than buggy drivers or elevator operators.  Just my opinion.  Hoping to survive the next 10-15 years in the field but I am not advising my kids to go into it.  

Agreed. Unless one excels in tech talent wise and actually enjoys it i advise something else. We have washed out many who chose it as a career because money but had zero talent for it. 

If your children are young enough enroll them in a foreign language immersive school. Being fluently bilingual opens many doors. Shit my broken spanish gets me projects i wouldnt normally qualify for.

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28 minutes ago, Iceman said:

How much does politics/ political action impact the way you raise your kids?  I mean, it does present a plethora of opportunities to explore how not to act towards one another.  Having said that, I don't understand or possibly deliberately disagree with the guilt and shame some of you embrace.  We have multiple threads in this board discussing the opportunities our kids have had, and they are not gone because of the cheeto king or any of the other bad actors in Washington or Austin.

Just because something emanates from our politicians, whether it is racism, greed, hate, whatever..., fuck em.  The kids are looking at you first and handling dipshit behavior is part of that.  There's more than a handful of items where our "leaders" act a certain way, and our kids knew, that ain't how we fucking act/ conduct ourselves.

Are we supposed to be inspired by our politicians? Possibly, but I am not and have not been for most of my adult life.  Are there still basic principles that drive success?  You betcha, and the politicians don't control that shit either.  We can either sit around and feel sorry for ourselves and wait for hope to come from Washington...LMAO; or get off our asses and make something happen.  Lotsa folks appear to be scared of the color yellow.  Be better.  Convey an ounce of self confidence... or dwell in mamby-pamby land.  Your reaction to the bullshit has a bigger impact than the actual bullshit, IMHO.

A couple things-

This board is an outlet. In war you might be scared but it doesn't stop you from fighting. 

People on this board are out here in these streets kicking ass and being successful. We are just venting about the day to day frustrations of our country's, and sometimes the world's, politics. Take me for example. My mom, like a lot of African Americans from her era, never owned a home. In a single generation we went from no home ownership to all of us owning our own home, with me owning a house where if you turn right out of my driveway and drive 1/8 a mile, turn left, drive another 1/8, and turn right, you will be looking at a 15k sq ft house. No one is folding up the tent. 

That said, this is a board of educated people. When you learn what you did to this country's indigenous. When you learn why we actually fight wars or the puppet regimes we've put in place around the globe to serve our own interest. When you learn the steps this country has taken to keep a thumb on the head of its people. When you know how the country has legislated itself to protect the elite. When you have the means to travel and hear how people outside this country feel about us. When you work in places that are multinational and your colleague sits down and has a beer with you and lets loose about his world view. When you are old enough to see the same things that didn't work 40 years ago tried again and again. When you studied enough to know history and have to sit by and watch people "touch the stove". 

When you know all that, you need a place to let off a little steam, and thank the lord for this place. 

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This isn't really political, but as for living in the US in the future, I'm trying to prepare my kids to be agile.  To not expect a 40 year career in a single industry.  They might need 8 five year careers.  I'm also steering them away from my field (computer science) as there are about to be a glut of workers for a contracting number of jobs that likely won't be returning, and generally educating them in how to recognize fields that will be similarly impacted by AI-augmented productivity.

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8 minutes ago, Goredho said:

This isn't really political, but as for living in the US in the future, I'm trying to prepare my kids to be agile.  To not expect a 40 year career in a single industry.  They might need 8 five year careers.  I'm also steering them away from my field (computer science) as there are about to be a glut of workers for a contracting number of jobs that likely won't be returning, and generally educating them in how to recognize fields that will be similarly impacted by AI-augmented productivity.

Teach them to be mobile and how to leverage moves to their benefit. If you wait to have a family you can do well for yourself taking advantage of opportunities others cannot. 

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12 hours ago, linux said:

Russia has never been more weakened, their military was expected to be powerful and not only was it exposed as a paper tiger that even Estonia could repel but their entire near infinite soviet stock of armor is completely gone.

Russia suffered the most humiliating hard military defeat possible, so much so that a mini NATO of Poland, Ukraine and the Baltics is more than powerful enough to repel any invasion from now to the foreseeable future, however they can probably still terrorize with glided bombs and drones, but that does not mean they can take any more territory. 

A simple analogy is that all the spearheads were dented and all they are left with are sticks 

 

2 hours ago, Thatguy said:

 

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But still fighting to take this tiny little country over 3 years later @Incredulity

LOL, I wasn’t even talking about military effectiveness, I was talking specifically about success in making Russia a pariah state. I’m not following this all that close but even I know that NATO agreements are why we have not activated the US military in this war. Russia would be in reconstruction right now if we and our allies (former allies I should say) had engaged militarily. But he’s a Fox News sheep who also thinks NATO is bad because King Orange said so. Like I said he prefers we sit at the kids table with Nork and Orban.

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57 minutes ago, Goredho said:

This isn't really political, but as for living in the US in the future, I'm trying to prepare my kids to be agile.  To not expect a 40 year career in a single industry.  They might need 8 five year careers.  I'm also steering them away from my field (computer science) as there are about to be a glut of workers for a contracting number of jobs that likely won't be returning, and generally educating them in how to recognize fields that will be similarly impacted by AI-augmented productivity.

 

47 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Teach them to be mobile and how to leverage moves to their benefit. If you wait to have a family you can do well for yourself taking advantage of opportunities others cannot. 

And this.  We've had a lot of conversations about "keep your eye out for the next opportunity, and be brave and pivot to it."  The AI revolution is truly unnerving, across the board.  Hard to predict exactly what will be there long-term, and what will not.  That's universal, not isolated to the US.

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I hope that pregnancy bug from same sex relationships doesn't evolve...

Evidently now we're just making up shit to be scared of, to achieve a fuller spectrum of apocalypse.

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That bothered you @royiv, LOL?

I was just complementing Brisket's ability to cross the streams of fear on multiple fronts.  Somehow pregnancy is a communicable disease now.

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first thing you do is make yourself mobile. at their age, their values will come from you and how you live your life and your values will dictate so much of who they become relative to their relationship with the US as a country.  how do you make yourself mobile?  well, for me it's first mexican residency, which in turn gets my kids automatic residency.  You'd likely want to visit often, but there are no actual residency requirements outside of the financial means requirements which are low for temporary and a bit higher for permanent. Costa Rica is another popular one but I find Costa Rica to be too remote, too under developed, great for a vacation, hard to make a permanent life there though.

from there it's a second passport. Mexico is one but it's like the US, tests, language proficiency, etc. there are several pathways to the EU, from Malta just paying cash for citizenship to the golden visas of Portugal and others.  Malta is instant (once approved) citizenship for cash, the others are a 10 year process started with investment and residency first.  Rules change periodically but I suspect US expats will always have a route in some form or fashion.  the Caribbean island nations also have passports for sale (instant once approved).  Be aware the instant passports are not cheap, they are usually well over $100,000 like $150,000 or something. But if you absolutely need one, it's a small price to pay to have global freedom.

with Mexican residency, a US passport and a second passport in the EU or in the Caribbean then you can travel pretty much anywhere and if the passport is the EU (or if you have EU nation-state residency from a golden visa program) then you can reside anywhere in the EU.

That should be a 3-5 year plan but by the 5th year you should have options that allow you to go when you want - i.e. have at least one residency visa outside the US.

from there, it's travel, even if modest it doesn't matter, open their eyes to the world.  from there, it's looking at colleges in other countries like the EU. I can't get my kids to think about anything but UT but they are also near adulthood so we can reason with them regarding when to leave, especially if i can convince my ex to allow mexican residency "just because we can" right now.

foreign languages, focusing on emerging and dominant fields are all great, but it starts with you building YOUR framework for mobility and then your values for that mobility will nearly automatically pass on to your kids.

as for the criticisms for posting - fuck that noise - this shit is horrible. the amount of grief, fear, angst, anger, frustration, sadness, depression, fatigue, lethargy that the decline and the HATE causes is sometimes too much to bear. I'm sitting on our own applications for Mexican residency and haven't sent them to our facilitator for all of those emotional reasons and I have a clear and present danger in front of me that should have me sprinting to the goal.  so post away and fuck the rest.

but again, focus on YOUR mobility and your kids will have it ingrained in them by the time it matters (plus it's a lot cheaper to drag them along as minors than it is for them to have to qualify on their own as adults later).

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33 minutes ago, Iceman said:

I hope that pregnancy bug from same sex relationships doesn't evolve...

Evidently now we're just making up shit to be scared of, to achieve a fuller spectrum of apocalypse.

Yeah....nobody in a same-sex relationship has ever been pregnant.  WTF?  There's this thing called "science" - it allows for such things.  Happens all the time, in fact.

It is an undeniable truth that it is more dangerous to be pregnant in Texas than in a jurisdiction that allows the full spectrum of care for women.  You don't have to worry about that.  Yippee for you.

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1 hour ago, Iceman said:

I hope that pregnancy bug from same sex relationships doesn't evolve...

Evidently now we're just making up shit to be scared of, to achieve a fuller spectrum of apocalypse.

 

1 hour ago, Iceman said:

That bothered you @royiv, LOL?

I was just complementing Brisket's ability to cross the streams of fear on multiple fronts.  Somehow pregnancy is a communicable disease now.

 

1 hour ago, Iceman said:

 

Get the fuck out of here you ignorant fucking cunt. Jesus christ you just get dumber every day. It's actually impressive at this point.

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1 hour ago, Iceman said:

I hope that pregnancy bug from same sex relationships doesn't evolve...

Evidently now we're just making up shit to be scared of, to achieve a fuller spectrum of apocalypse.

You can't possibly be this fucking stupid.  

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3 hours ago, Goredho said:

I'm also steering them away from my field (computer science)

I gave my oldest this advice. Don’t do CS. Study CE or EE instead. As of a couple years ago, a lot of really smart kids with otherwise savvy parents were still flocking to CS programs. And typically, they’re paying full freight to go to a less prestigious school than they could have attended had they chosen a less competitive major. All to learn a skill that AI can already do better, cheaper, and faster. 

CS is probably the current most competitive major from an admissions standpoint. The GPAs and SAT scores required to get into a decent program are astounding. In the coming years, many of our best and brightest young minds will graduate with a boatload of debt and very few job prospects. 

This AI shit really snuck up on us. 

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Also, the software engineering space sucks and has been getting worse every year. Long hours, increasingly worse pay, bad management, etc. And it's nearly impossible to get your foot in the door without help.

I'm glad I left that space to focus on other things.

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5 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

I gave my oldest this advice. Don’t do CS. Study CE or EE instead. As of a couple years ago, a lot of really smart kids with otherwise savvy parents were still flocking to CS programs. And typically, they’re paying full freight to go to a less prestigious school than they could have attended had they chosen a less competitive major. All to learn a skill that AI can already do better, cheaper, and faster. 

CS is probably the current most competitive major from an admissions standpoint. The GPAs and SAT scores required to get into a decent program are astounding. In the coming years, many of our best and brightest young minds will graduate with a boatload of debt and very few job prospects. 

This AI shit really snuck up on us. 

yeah AI is going to eviscerate jobs where the answer is complex but either right or wrong (and CS is often exactly that).  though I had chatgpt 4.0 paid version run some easy date calculations so I could figure out a notice deadline and it fucked up a simple calculation of 120 months from a month certain. I posted the screen shot on the AI thread in DT. fucking nuts. we gonna need AI to check AI.

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12 minutes ago, troph said:

yeah AI is going to eviscerate jobs where the answer is complex but either right or wrong (and CS is often exactly that).  

This is exactly right, if the problem is complex but deterministic, AI will do it well.

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my kid's (niece) future plan/opportunity is absolutely 'gone because of bad actors in Washington'... she spent six years including killing it in college and multiple internships planning a career with the NPS/USFS/BLM. six weeks post-graduation her entire life plan was blown up.

it was pretty fucking traumatic piled on top of the covid impacts during these same critical years. 

yes, she also learned resiliency and agility and had the experience and connections to pivot to something else (private farming)...but that was like a fourth of her life just poof. it fucking sucks and is a direct result of the bullshit being perpetuated by Trump and P2025 henchmen.

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16 hours ago, Incredulity said:

“It worked”

holy shit.  You honestly believe that…amazing.

Reposting so all can laugh at.

The baby dick that is the Russian military was exposed by Ukraine after Biden said go ahead, do it. Prigozhin, whose name literally translates to vodka and cigarettes, could have named himself President at any moment in 2023.

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Also, the single best tip for your kids is to forget retirement accounts. 
Invest in assets that can pay you 5k a month in dividends. You can live mostly anywhere on that once you achieve that.

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3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Actual policies and laws emanate from our politicians.  Here's just a few, statewide and national, that affect my kids:

- my daughter can no longer get the full spectrum of medical care she may need in Texas if she gets pregnant.  A bad pregnancy is much more likely to kill her now.

- she wouldn't want to raise kids and educate them in Texas anyway; by the time any kid she could have tomorrow ends up in school, public education in this state will be on its last legs, as is the openly stated intention of the Tim Dunn crowd.  Glad your kids have already made it through our schools.  The next generation won't have that luxury.

- she is in a same-sex relationship.  She is demonstrably less safe in Texas than elsewhere.  And if she ends up in a same-sex marriage, is likely not to have legal rights as a married person in Texas.

- she is applying to graduate schools.  Entire programs are being terminated with little notice as our government revokes their funding (we have a friend who was accepted into a program, then got a letter terminating that because funding was removed).  My son will be in this boat in a year or two as well.

- the academic freedom of schools to which she would apply in the US is being sharply curtailed more every day by the administration.

- one of the regime's chief advisors has equated all 65 million hispanics in the US (that's my family) as "illegals."  And the Regime has openly stated that anyone they deem illegal is not entitled to any due process.  So, the fact that my family's last name subjects us to the risk of being grabbed by a fed with a grudge, and we end up on a plane to El Salvador, is a risk that you don't have to worry about.   Cool.  We do.

- job prospects for new college grads have plummeted in just the past few months as the Regime has injected unprecedented economic uncertainty into the mix.

- we have decided to become a full-on oligarchy instead of a functioning democracy.  In terms of long-term economic prospects and personal freedom, that never, ever bodes well.

- they cannot count on the protection of the rule of law if they engage in any activity or thought that the Regime doesn't like.  At the very least, "you can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride."

Can keep going....for a long, long time.  I will comment on how it always seems to be white men of economic means who say shit like "things haven't changed, what are you worried about?  I'm doing fine?"  Or "why get bent out of shape over some mean tweets?"  It's a fuckload more than "mean tweets."  If you are a member of ANY of the "out groups whom the law binds, but does not protect," this state and country are not good, and are getting worse at breakneck speed.  And here's the punchline....in a fascist regime, EVERYONE eventually ends up in that class.  Even the favored classes fall out of favor as an ethos that is built on constantly having enemies continues to search for new enemies.

No place on earth is perfect.  This country is bad, and is getting much worse, at a rate of acceleration that surprises even me.  Glad you don't have to worry about yourself.  Those of us with disfavored last names and such don't have that luxury.

I am glad you took the time to type this out. So many times I starting typing out posts like this but don't want to be the guy always responding to this topic. It's funny how many people used to tell you to back off the ledge. Now they are praising you for being correct. There are still a few holdovers, but keep on pressing the line. You've been dead on thus far. I appreciate you!

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2 hours ago, Iceman said:

That bothered you @royiv, LOL?

I was just complementing Brisket's ability to cross the streams of fear on multiple fronts.  Somehow pregnancy is a communicable disease now.

God damn you are one tone deaf dipshit.

Also ive mentioned before that low voltage cabling is high paying amd always in demand.

That and many other vocations wont/cant be replaced by AI. Replaced by robots? Yes but thats a ways off. I hope.

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2 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

God damn you are one tone deaf dipshit.

All the crying blends together. You're right about that.

 

The funny part is that my kids are in the sweet spot of this conversation. They must be quivering at the impending doom.

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50 minutes ago, troph said:

though I had chatgpt 4.0 paid version run some easy date calculations so I could figure out a notice deadline and it fucked up a simple calculation of 120 months from a month certain.

One of the ironies of the LLM type generative AI is it sucks at calculating. It’s just not built to crunch numbers, even though it runs on the most powerful calculators ever built. 

LLMs are really good at predicting the appropriate next syntax element. Which is why it’s great at writing paragraphs that read like a human wrote them. It generates the right form of content. But it’s not necessarily great at generating accurate content because it’s designed to give you want you want rather than what’s objectively correct.

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4 minutes ago, Iceman said:

All the crying blends together. You're right about that.

 

The funny part is that my kids are in the sweet spot of this conversation. They must be quivering at the impending doom.

If they inherited your IQ they are totally fucked.

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32 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Reposting so all can laugh at.

The baby dick that is the Russian military was exposed by Ukraine after Biden said go ahead, do it. Prigozhin, whose name literally translates to vodka and cigarettes, could have named himself President at any moment in 2023.

The topic was soft power dipshit.  Try to keep up.

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1 hour ago, Brian Fantana said:

Long hours, increasingly worse pay, bad management, etc. And it's nearly impossible to get your foot in the door without help.

 

You just described the American labor force and job market in general.

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1 hour ago, troph said:

 we gonna need AI to check AI.

Don't mean to further derail the thread, but I know there are people that have jobs involving putting together agentic AI workflows, and yes part of them is having AI agents that check other AI agents.  It's happening right now.  Also, this isn't just going to affect the tech industry.  They are making strides in medical diagnoses for example.  A lot of big corporate pushes teledoc stuff already (I imagine its cheaper for them).  One doesn't have to squint too much to see where that's heading.

Related to the point of the thread I know what NOT to tell my kids to major in, but have no clue otherwise.  The future of the next 10 years is pretty damn murky.  I like the agile ideas posted in this thread but I'm not leading by example at the moment.  Son has an interest in biology/zoology currently.  I used to think scientist sounded like a good deal.  But look what we're doing to science and research (AI or not) these days....

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Just now, Macanudo said:

You just described the American labor force and job market in general.

Yeah, I'm just saying the software engineering space has been like that for quite a few years and just getting worse recently.

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14 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

because it’s designed to give you want you want rather than what’s objectively correct.

So, wait.....generative AI performs the way that most wives want their husbands to perform?

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2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

So, wait.....generative AI performs the way that most wives want their husbands to perform?

Yes.  Gen AI is a Mr Wonderful doll for directors and executives.

MR_WONDERFUL_doll_pic.JPG

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1 minute ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

I used to think scientist sounded like a good deal.  But look what we're doing to science and research (AI or not) these days....

It's still a good idea.  Just not here.

Remember the days of.....just a few months ago....when many of the brighter minds from all over the world would come and study in the US because we had great scientific research and research-based university programs?  Well, flip the script.  European, Canadian, Australian, Asian, etc. universities have quickly turned their eyes to the US and bright students with potential from the US.  In fact, many of the professors leading the programs your kid might have joined here in the US have left or are in the process of leaving for some of those universities.  Yesterday, you could study biology under Professor Smartypants from Harvard.  Now, you can study biology from Professor Smartypants, who is now teaching at the Sorbonne.

Our loss will be the world's gain.  And that's part of being agile for your kids.  Follow the research and funding if they want to study science.  Odds are increasingly high that their path will take them somewhere other than the US.  Unless, of course, your kid wants to be a government-funded drone working for 1/10th of the market rate for Elon Musk or some other oligarch who has wrangled government-funded research programs to do his business's work for him.

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