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13 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:

I hope Jeanie stays on in some capacity. All I can say is thank you to Dr. Buss for having bought the team with a little help from the worst owner in pro sports history in Donald Sterling. 

Apparently she will stay on as Governor of the team.

24 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

Man, talk about a franchise I would never sell...

$10 billion would give me a reason to consider it.

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2 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Apparently she will stay on as Governor of the team.

$10 billion would give me a reason to consider it.

I know Jeanie isn't liquid billionaire rich but I have to imagine her lifestyle won't materially change, even with all that money.

It will be worth more in 10 years.  A lot more.

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7 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Apparently she will stay on as Governor of the team.

$10 billion would give me a reason to consider it.

Just saw this.  Weird trust setup by Jerry seems to be driving the sale. Same reason the Broncos got sold - family infighting.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19104767/lakers-owner-jeanie-buss-shares-details-decision-family-franchise

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5 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

Just saw this.  Weird trust setup by Jerry seems to be driving the sale. Same reason the Broncos got sold - family infighting.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19104767/lakers-owner-jeanie-buss-shares-details-decision-family-franchise

I think most Lakers fans knew this day would come. As Bruin noted I am glad she will stay on as the governor of the team. She’s always been the one most like her father. 

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4 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:

I think most Lakers fans knew this day would come. As Bruin noted I am glad she will stay on as the governor of the team. She’s always been the one most like her father. 

Why would you be happy if she is staying with the team in any capacity? I guess for sentimentality reasons, I'm fine with her in a ceremonial role. She's been a very bad owner. 

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8 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:

I think most Lakers fans knew this day would come. As Bruin noted I am glad she will stay on as the governor of the team. She’s always been the one most like her father. 

Given what Walter and Guggenheim have done for the Dodgers, I'm all for this.  Hire a basketball version of Andrew Friedman, and let's go!

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6 minutes ago, Jimmy Two Times said:

Why would you be happy if she is staying with the team in any capacity? I guess for sentimentality reasons, I'm fine with her in a ceremonial role. She's been a very bad owner. 

She had to get control from her moron brother and work from there. I don’t have any gripes with her. Dr. Buss should’ve left the entire team solely to her. 

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3 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Given what Walter and Guggenheim have done for the Dodgers, I'm all for this.  Hire a basketball version of Andrew Friedman, and let's go!

This should be fun to be honest. Go buy us a center. 

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2 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:

She had to get control from her moron brother and work from there. I don’t have any gripes with her. Dr. Buss should’ve left the entire team solely to her. 

She's been atrocious and gets a boost in perception because her brother was worse and the LA media (looking at you Ramona Shelburne) coddle her. The Lakers have been underfunded in all of the non-salary cap markets: assistant coach pay, strength and conditioning, player perks, personnel (the Lakers have one of the smallest data & analytics departments). On top of that, she involved Kurt and Linda Rambis and Phil Jackson in actual personnel decisions. Remember the Magic Johnson debacle? She ran the Lakers like it was a family-owned deli and stumbled ass backwards into Lebron, AD and now Luka through no fault of her own. Hopefully Pelinka goes next. 

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10 minutes ago, Jimmy Two Times said:

She's been atrocious and gets a boost in perception because her brother was worse and the LA media (looking at you Ramona Shelburne) coddle her. The Lakers have been underfunded in all of the non-salary cap markets: assistant coach pay, strength and conditioning, player perks, personnel (the Lakers have one of the smallest data & analytics departments). On top of that, she involved Kurt and Linda Rambis and Phil Jackson in actual personnel decisions. Remember the Magic Johnson debacle? She ran the Lakers like it was a family-owned deli and stumbled ass backwards into Lebron, AD and now Luka through no fault of her own. Hopefully Pelinka goes next. 

I just don’t have any gripes with her. Not nostalgia or any other reason for lack of complaints. Things change and I’m glad she is staying on in an official capacity. 

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50 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Apparently she will stay on as Governor of the team.

 

37 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:

I think most Lakers fans knew this day would come. As Bruin noted I am glad she will stay on as the governor of the team. She’s always been the one most like her father. 

How’d that Mark Cuban thing work out?

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1 minute ago, Chewbacca said:

Second apron is a real motherfucker. 

Probably contributed to the sale. I am not a fan teams being penalized monetarily for trying to keep winning. We’ll see how much the new guy wants to pay in luxury taxes to win. 

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LOL at the thought of anyone thinking this is a bad thing for the Lakers franchise. Walter owns the largest portion of the Dodgers, who are not shy with their payroll. Meanwhile the Buss family has been running the Lakers like they were headed to the poor house. Adios, Buss family. 

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1 hour ago, Sbbruin said:

Given what Walter and Guggenheim have done for the Dodgers, I'm all for this.  Hire a basketball version of Andrew Friedman, and let's go!

And ship LeBron out .

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1 hour ago, Underdog said:

Married to Jay Mohr… Jay. Mohr. 

If the team suddenly hires a consultant named Bob Sugar that's a 🚩.

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Dammit - just saw the meme above - you just beat me to it, but oh well.
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1 hour ago, UpperWestside said:

Probably contributed to the sale. I am not a fan teams being penalized monetarily for trying to keep winning. We’ll see how much the new guy wants to pay in luxury taxes to win. 

It's not just the luxury tax that makes it such a motherfucker.  It completely ties your hands in what you can do.

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1 minute ago, Chewbacca said:

It's not just the luxury tax that makes it such a motherfucker.  It completely ties your hands in what you can do.

I find none of the rules helpful to teams being able to stay together. I would rather see a team like Denver be able to go add pieces and try to win instead of having to stay under a tax threshold. The next CBA the players negotiate needs to entirely do away with this. Either spend wisely to field a winner or be bad.

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4 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:

I find none of the rules helpful to teams being able to stay together. I would rather see a team like Denver be able to go add pieces and try to win instead of having to stay under a tax threshold. The next CBA the players negotiate needs to entirely do away with this. Either spend wisely to field a winner or be bad.

Yep.  Dynasties in the NBA are done under this CBA.  You cannot keep teams together anymore.  Celtics are gonna look a lot different next season. OKC is probably next on the clock when they have to pay everyone.

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47 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

Yep.  Dynasties in the NBA are done under this CBA.  You cannot keep teams together anymore.  Celtics are gonna look a lot different next season. OKC is probably next on the clock when they have to pay everyone.

Gotta have some type of exemption for re-signing a home grown guy to the max. Jokic, Wemby, Tatum, Booker, etc. staying around shouldn’t hurt their respective franchises long term by tying them close to the second apron.  
 

Even guys like SGA and Haliburton who didn’t necessarily start their career where they are now but got there early enough probably shouldn’t count, or count as much. 

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8 minutes ago, Hate said:

Holy shit. I had no idea. I thought she was still with Phil Jackson. 

Nobody loves Phil Jackson more than Phil Jackson. He’s with the right person.

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Posted
4 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

The GOAT of falling upwards.

1.  Got fat

2.  Married Jennie Buss

3.  Buss sells Lakers for $10B

In that order.

Jay Mohr living the dream. They each have separate condos in the same building on different floors. Best life ever.

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9 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

I find none of the rules helpful to teams being able to stay together. I would rather see a team like Denver be able to go add pieces and try to win instead of having to stay under a tax threshold. The next CBA the players negotiate needs to entirely do away with this. Either spend wisely to field a winner or be bad.

Shocking news: Fan of LA/NY team with huge financial advantages favors ending salary caps so the Lakers, Knicks, Rams, Giants, and Jets can spend like the Dodgers, Yankees, and Mets. “Either spend wisely…” doesn’t apply if there’s no cap and your team has nearly unlimited money (see: Yankees).

9 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

Yep.  Dynasties in the NBA are done under this CBA.  You cannot keep teams together anymore.  Celtics are gonna look a lot different next season. OKC is probably next on the clock when they have to pay everyone.

8 hours ago, MrX said:

Gotta have some type of exemption for re-signing a home grown guy to the max. Jokic, Wemby, Tatum, Booker, etc. staying around shouldn’t hurt their respective franchises long term by tying them close to the second apron.  
 

Even guys like SGA and Haliburton who didn’t necessarily start their career where they are now but got there early enough probably shouldn’t count, or count as much. 

The NBA lets you resign your players even if you’re over the cap if you’re willing to eat luxury taxes? If you build a “dynasty” level team, you can keep it together like the Warriors did (until they decided not to resign Klay). The 90s Bulls could’ve hung on a couple more seasons but Jerry Reinsdorf decided he was done shelling out. This current system already favors big market teams that are able and may be willing to pay the taxes if they can assemble a great roster. OKC had 3 young future HOF players on their team and blew it up because they knew couldn’t afford to keep them. Also, small market NBA teams have a disadvantage keeping/attracting free agents when they all seem to want to play in LA, NY, or Miami. If you gave those teams unlimited cap room, very few stars would ever remain with their original franchises because they’d all be joining super teams in those cities. If I was an LA/NY fan, I’d also want rules that hugely favored my teams. 
 

If you really wanted more opportunity to keep and grow dynasties while having parity and fairness to small market teams, the non-star majority of NBAPA should band together like the non-QBs/stars of NFLPA have to get more equity instead of the top 5% taking over half the money. NBA could increase salary cap/revenue sharing so players in total get paid more, but reduce the max and supermax levels so one or two players don’t make 80%+ of a team’s payroll. If LeBron and Luka were individually capped at a peasant’s wage of $25 or $30m/year, the Lakers could afford a third or fourth “max” player and have year to year flexibility in free agency. 

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22 minutes ago, Murfdogg21 said:

Shocking news: Fan of LA/NY team with huge financial advantages favors ending salary caps so the Lakers, Knicks, Rams, Giants, and Jets can spend like the Dodgers, Yankees, and Mets. “Either spend wisely…” doesn’t apply if there’s no cap and your team has nearly unlimited money (see: Yankees).

 

I support the Yankees solely because it's my mom's team. I grew up a fan of Oakland because my favorite player played for them. I am ALWAYS in favor of teams spending. I hope the Dodgers keep spending money. I hope every team that can will spend money on players. I think Jerry Jones is a moron, but I do think the Cowboys should be able to spend whatever they want on their team. There should not be a cap in any sport. There should only be a floor. If you aren't willing to pay to get players too bad. 

Denver should be building a mini-dynasty. Instead the cap screws that up for them. OKC is about to have their team gutted because of the cap. It's dumb and the players have a terrible CBA in basketball. 

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11 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:

I support the Yankees solely because it's my mom's team. I grew up a fan of Oakland because my favorite player played for them. I am ALWAYS in favor of teams spending. I hope the Dodgers keep spending money. I hope every team that can will spend money on players. I think Jerry Jones is a moron, but I do think the Cowboys should be able to spend whatever they want on their team. There should not be a cap in any sport. There should only be a floor. If you aren't willing to pay to get players too bad. 

Denver should be building a mini-dynasty. Instead the cap screws that up for them. OKC is about to have their team gutted because of the cap. It's dumb and the players have a terrible CBA in basketball. 

Do you not acknowledge that teams like the Lakers, Dodgers, and Yankees make significantly more money in merchandise sales, tickets, advertising and marketing rights, and local tv contracts than small market teams like OKC? They will always have more money. They can spend more, misspend some, and still be more profitable than many teams. In a capless world, OKC could not afford to resign all their players who are getting competing offers from the other 29 uncapped teams, especially those with the deepest pockets like the Lakers and Knicks. 
 

The cap keeps the biggest markets somewhat in check and makes it possible to have a OKC-Pacers finals. If you are advocating for the players deserving a bigger share, they should increase the cap (which they do every year). An uncapped NBA would have all the tier 1 allstars on the Lakers, Knicks, and Heat, tier 2 allstars on the Bulls, Nets, Clippers, maybe Celtics, and 20+ teams hoping their draftees and low tier free agents can compete until said draftees bolt for their own mega contract in LA or NY.

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