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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

My son is now 11 and these past 12 months in his select world (12U) and Little League (11U+12U), we've been around 6-7 kids with "little league arm" which is basically the pre-pubescent version of serious elbow problems. I don't get it. This isn't an overuse thing given all of the pitch count and rest rules for kids these days. 

I've heard it's a burgeoning epidemic in high school, even. In the 80's and 90's, it seemed like maybe a couple of guys a year would tear their UCLs and require TJ surgery. Now the Astros alone have like 5-6 guys going through the process. 

It’s throwing hard as possible for the pitches you can pitch. Too much games being played and not enough arm conditioning and just practice. 

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1 hour ago, Fug said:

Derek Thompson did a good podcast on Achilles injuries and prevention in the NBA. A large part was due to premature specialization in sports and overuse.

My friend says hims.com can help.  Wait, I read that wrong.

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21 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

As the doctor said, just playing nonstop all year causes issues. Plus while there are pitch count rules they are routinely not enforced and the kids playing in multiple organizations and multiple sanctioning bodies (e.g., playing LL and PG) certainly don't always keep one organization updated on what they threw for the other one. 

The counts in Little League are strictly enforced these days. The same is true for select tournaments. I get the skipping back and forth, so if parents are idiots, I guess that's a factor. I know I don't let my kid pitch more than once a week unless the first appearance was minimal, but he's almost always a starter so that isn't often. 

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I know when I played high school my arm would deteriorate towards end of year. Main reasons. Usually pitched 1 once maybe 2 times a week. Starter so decent number innings. 
 

Besides the pitching lots of infield practice from shortstop and 3rd lots of throws to 1st. Most kids don’t know when to dial it back so lots of arm use during the year if only doing 1 sport. 

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40 minutes ago, Vito Andolini said:

Johnathan Gray was never the same after carrying the ball 8 million times at Aledo.

Is 350/season a lot? 

 

/s

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26 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

The counts in Little League are strictly enforced these days. The same is true for select tournaments. I get the skipping back and forth, so if parents are idiots, I guess that's a factor. I know I don't let my kid pitch more than once a week unless the first appearance was minimal, but he's almost always a starter so that isn't often. 

Part of issue is also letting kids throw curve balls much to young. It is one thing at 10 to throw 75 fast balls and maybe a basic off speed. Make 50 of them curves and other "harder on the elbow" pitches and you can have issues emerge earlier

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5 minutes ago, BrazilHorn said:

Part of issue is also letting kids throw curve balls much to young. It is one thing at 10 to throw 75 fast balls and maybe a basic off speed. Make 50 of them curves and other "harder on the elbow" pitches and you can have issues emerge earlier

I remember being the first kid to learn to throw a curveball in my age group. Buckling knees, kids ducking out of the box… good times. By the time I got to high school my elbow would crunch and pop all the time at the beginning of the season. My dad was a fucking idiot looking back on it now. 

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40 minutes ago, Texasborn91 said:

I remember being the first kid to learn to throw a curveball in my age group. Buckling knees, kids ducking out of the box… good times. By the time I got to high school my elbow would crunch and pop all the time at the beginning of the season. My dad was a fucking idiot looking back on it now. 

Happened a lot when I played sports too but it was usually the ladies in the stands watching 

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3 hours ago, kevwun said:

There's an explosion of TJ injuries in baseball too.  I think athletes are pushing past what the body can withstand.

 

3 hours ago, closetojumping said:

My son is now 11 and these past 12 months in his select world (12U) and Little League (11U+12U), we've been around 6-7 kids with "little league arm" which is basically the pre-pubescent version of serious elbow problems. I don't get it. This isn't an overuse thing given all of the pitch count and rest rules for kids these days. 

I've heard it's a burgeoning epidemic in high school, even. In the 80's and 90's, it seemed like maybe a couple of guys a year would tear their UCLs and require TJ surgery. Now the Astros alone have like 5-6 guys going through the process. 

 

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

It’s throwing hard as possible for the pitches you can pitch. Too much games being played and not enough arm conditioning and just practice. 

 

1 hour ago, Shaddie said:

I know when I played high school my arm would deteriorate towards end of year. Main reasons. Usually pitched 1 once maybe 2 times a week. Starter so decent number innings. 
 

Besides the pitching lots of infield practice from shortstop and 3rd lots of throws to 1st. Most kids don’t know when to dial it back so lots of arm use during the year if only doing 1 sport. 

 

1 hour ago, BrazilHorn said:

Part of issue is also letting kids throw curve balls much to young. It is one thing at 10 to throw 75 fast balls and maybe a basic off speed. Make 50 of them curves and other "harder on the elbow" pitches and you can have issues emerge earlier

I think y'all hit most of the big reasons. I would also add the ability to measure and focus on spin rare is increasing elbow problems as well. Not to mention private lessons and such that aren't accounted for in pitch count limits.

 

*person who pitched too much and had bone spurs shaved down freshman year of HS and TJ sophomore year in college. 

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3 hours ago, closetojumping said:

My son is now 11 and these past 12 months in his select world (12U) and Little League (11U+12U), we've been around 6-7 kids with "little league arm" which is basically the pre-pubescent version of serious elbow problems. I don't get it. This isn't an overuse thing given all of the pitch count and rest rules for kids these days. 

I've heard it's a burgeoning epidemic in high school, even. In the 80's and 90's, it seemed like maybe a couple of guys a year would tear their UCLs and require TJ surgery. Now the Astros alone have like 5-6 guys going through the process. 

Ortho surgeons in DFW will agree they operate on more kids for baseball issues than ever before

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55 minutes ago, HuttNuts said:

 

 

 

 

I think y'all hit most of the big reasons. I would also add the ability to measure and focus on spin rare is increasing elbow problems as well. Not to mention private lessons and such that aren't accounted for in pitch count limits.

 

*person who pitched too much and had bone spurs shaved down freshman year of HS and TJ sophomore year in college. 

Also why the fuck are parents making their kids focus on exit velo when hitting? Especially wander the age of 13. 

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On 8/6/2025 at 3:48 PM, SydneyCarton said:

10k apiece new and sold for 500 dollars. 

If he could afford $500, I'm sure BO&W would buy one in a heartbeat just to sniff that leather bench. 

Shit, I might get one of those to keep my golf stuff in.

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Alex Dunlap with some practice notes from today 

Spoiler

In catching up with some sources about football practice on Thursday, here is a grab-bag of nuggets from campus:

* It was another full-pads practice Thursday and there was a lot of time dedicated to team periods ahead of this weekend's first scrimmage on Saturday. I'd imagine they either won't have practice on Friday or at most just have a walk-through.

* Ryan Wingo, as expected, was back at practice on Thursday.

* Jelani McDonald was mentioned as a standout, he's still playing with the first-team defense at safety opposite Michael Taaffe while Derek Williams (who may still be somewhat on the mend in his return) is working back in with the twos.

* One person made mention of Christian Clark's use in the receiving game and said that he sometimes lines up outside as a receiver, it's not only dump-offs out of the backfield.

* On the whole, the defense looks very good and they are hard to move the football on. The defense apparently had some nice big-moment stops today including a TFL from Michael Taaffe on a run blitz. "It wasn't an easy time running on them today."

* In all, some close to the team think that it's a great opportunity for a relatively young offensive unit to get to go against what is looking like it could be one of the nation's best defenses every day in practice. It's hard to argue with the logic.

* The offensive line reportedly hasn't exactly been dominant against the Texas defensive front in team periods, but the group is reportedly gelling and coming along. I don't get the sense that there is any worry, but the defensive line has been stacking some good days. One positive that was mentioned is that freshman recently elevated backup Nic Brooks has looked good during inside run drills and a guy who is "moving bodies."

* Freshman S Jonah Williams is apparently still at least being held back to some degree per one person because of his lingering hamstring injury. He also said that Zelus Hicks is a little banged up but didn't seem at all worried about it.

* With a lot of team work on Thursday, a bunch of guys who you might not expect reportedly got mixed in for work when it was good on good (ones versus ones): Lance Jackson got to work in at DE, while someone else said that one three-WR set out there with Arch Manning included Parker Livingstone, Deandre Moore and freshman Kaliq Lockett. Alex January also got some work with the first team on defense.

* Maraad Watson and Travis Shaw were reportedly the first starters in Thursday's team period on the interior DL. That sounds like a pretty gnarly duo to me. A nice counterbalance of traits and play styles between those two.

* In all, it feels like there are a lot of ways that the defensive line can go personnel-wise with the depth acquired over the offseason. It feels like Watson, Brevard, Shaw and maybe Hero Kanu are coming on as contenders to be the front-line guys, but the calculus appears to be using these guys situationally based on their varying skill-sets for specific matchups as well as to keep them fresh. It certainly is starting to seem like Texas will have its most evenly distributed allocation of interior DL snaps we've seen since Sark's staff got to Texas.

* Trey Moore basically has his own position on the Texas defense that is different from the other two starting LBs. I get the feeling that we aren't going to see him going in as a second-team inside LB when Hill or Lefau are off the field. His play continues to be praised as a key outside linebacker with the starters.

* As for the scrimmage this weekend, many players' families and friends will be allowed to be in attendance and come into town to visit, and see how things are going with the team and their relatives. One person said not to expect any state secrets at the Saturday scrimmage, however, knowing that people will likely talk to friends about what they saw. "It'll be vanilla," one person said. Personally, I'd give my left pinky to attend even the most vanilla of Texas scrimmages.

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

Happened a lot when I played sports too but it was usually the ladies in the stands watching 

Big girls, huh?

I have a saying: if her ankles looks like they’ll hold 250, they WILL hold 250!

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I have a feeling that white t-shirt might be pretty good looking, it's just a weird pic. Blondie looks like literally every suburban mom in the state. I'd bet a dollar that she drives a Tahoe and has a bedazzled phone case.

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