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Speaking of popular Russian YouTubers, Konstantin/Inside Russia has pumped out a lot of good content after he left Russia.

There were some pretty nasty comments in one of his latest (below) over his comment about "where do Ukrainian children go when they disappear", but they were removed.  Russian trolls/bots.

Anyways, one interesting thing he talks about in this video and others (but man he can talk for a while, so these are long videos, because he chats with his fans, etc.)  is that since the main invasion last year, the Russian middle-class has all but disappeared, either because sanctions gutted a lot of the industries/jobs that feed the middle-class, and because the 700,000 men that bailed on Russia last fall were the ones who had jobs and skills that had allowed them to save up and be ready to leave the country if they were going to be drafted.  Or the middle class has effectively been silence.  The poorest would not have had the means to quickly pull money and get to the border (or on an airplane) somehow and get out.  The richest don't have to worry, which means it was the middle class that left.  At the same time, the remaining members have a lot to lose, and with Putin's new laws, etc., they have to keep their mouths shut and eyes down and avoid being mobilzed.

700,000 (and probably higher by a few hundred thousand by now) out of 140 million people may not seem like a lot, but if your middle class was already 6 months into being gutted by sanctions over Ukraine, and then you had this mass exodus, it's going to leave a mark.

Edit: He's mentioned in other videos that if you're poor in Russia, there is very little about your life that is affected by the outside world, unlike the middle class (who get pushed down into the lower class) when decent jobs go away.  As he said elsewhere, if you're poor in rural Russia, you're using an outhouse even though it's 2022.  You would have been conscripted at some point for the mandatory year anyways.

 

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2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Speaking of popular Russian YouTubers, Konstantin/Inside Russia has pumped out a lot of good content after he left Russia.

There were some pretty nasty comments in one of his latest (below) over his comment about "where do Ukrainian children go when they disappear", but they were removed.  Russian trolls/bots.

Anyways, one interesting thing he talks about in this video (but man he can talk for a while, so these are long videos, because he chats with his fans, etc.)  is that since the main invasion last year, the Russian middle-class has all but disappeared, either because sanctions gutted a lot of the industries/jobs that feed the middle-class, and because the 700,000 men that bailed on Russia last fall were the ones who had jobs and skills that had allowed them to save up and be ready to leave the country if they were going to be drafted. The poorest would not have had the means to quickly pull money and get to the border (or on an airplane) somehow and get out.  The richest don't have to worry, which means it was the middle class that left.

700,000 (and probably higher by a few hundred thousand by now) out of 140 million people may not seem like a lot, but if your middle class was already 6 months into being gutted by sanctions over Ukraine, and then you had this mass exodus, it's going to leave a mark.

 

You know the other thing we tend to think of is that the middle class is everywhere here in the US.  This just isn't true there, there are basically 3 cities the sort of approximate a western city, with a metro population between the 3 of being maybe 40 million.   Those are the only places in Russia where a middle class does exist.  So lose roughly 10% of that, combined with then their families, you are looking at a loss of population of about 10% of those areas, and an absolute destruction of whatever middle class there was.  

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

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Here's one of the bikini ones.  Around 25 minutes you can see how cold it is - her breath gives away the temperature - fucking insane.

 

That’s been posted on this board, I think. Some things are easy to remember. Funny though I don’t remember the rest of the video. Was there another Russian girl in a bikini in winter video?

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3 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Sorry Anchorman GIF by reactionseditor

Here's one of the bikini ones.  Around 25 minutes you can see how cold it is - her breath gives away the temperature - fucking insane.

 

This girl from Siberia has popped up in my YouTube feed. I look forward to her future mail order bride profile appearing.

 

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Sorry if this has already been covered. The thread moves quickly and the amount of links borks me at times. 
 
What are the suspected focal points of the impending counteroffensive? Surely not Bakhmut?

I think the expected goal will be to cross the Dnipro and drive to the Sea of Azov. Maybe towards Melitopol or Mariupol. If they can achieve this, it cuts off the Russkies in Crimea.
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35 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

 

what's the real impact of not being there for grain production?  it's not like the world can do without russian wheat.  it'll still get made and sold just as much.  just not a US company doing it.

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unless no wheat in fact gets grown now.  ukraine, any thoughts on that?

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From the "hindsight is 20/20" department:

IIRC at the time Ukraine was still pretty strongly aligned with Russia and one less nuclear state on their side was a good thing. 

So I understand why he may feel some regret but it was just a totally different world back then. Nobody could predict what was coming - his counterpart in Russia was Yeltsin and Putin hadn't even taken over yet.

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1 hour ago, Mantis Toboggan, MD said:


I think the expected goal will be to cross the Dnipro and drive to the Sea of Azov. Maybe towards Melitopol or Mariupol. If they can achieve this, it cuts off the Russkies in Crimea.

Crossing the Dnipro would be a pretty tall order. Attacking down the Orkiiv, Tokmak, and Melitopol line seems likely.

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