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Posted (edited)
10 hours ago, Brisketexan said:


Dudes were Mexican. Thats proof enough.




Yes, I know they were Venezuelan. Thats the joke.

Unfortunately, if you are from south of the border, you are Mexican until proven otherwise, which is not an entirely unreasonable suspicion, given that most of our Latino population is of Mexican origin. The greater problem with all of this is that we are doling out death sentences to foreign nationals in international waters for suspected non-death penalty eligible crimes without any due process or declaration of war. Given that our civil rights our supposed to be endowed by the creator and not just available to Americans, this just might be a gross violation of them. 

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1 hour ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

Unfortunately, if you are from south of the border, you are Mexican until proven otherwise, which is not an entirely unreasonable suspicion, given that most of our Latino population is of Mexican origin. The greater problem with all of this is that we are doling out death sentences to foreign nationals in international waters for suspected non-death penalty eligible crimes without any due process or declaration of war. Given that our civil rights our supposed to be endowed by the creator and not just available to Americans, this just might be a gross violation of them. 

If you need a distraction, start killing people.

 

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1 hour ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

The greater problem with all of this is that we are doling out death sentences to foreign nationals in international waters for suspected non-death penalty eligible crimes without any due process or declaration of war. 

Not only executing foreign nationals for offenses that would not be punishable by death if arrested, tried, and convicted, but ALSO bragging about it on social media. They made whole ass movies about doing shit like this covertly and covering it up to avoid blow back. And now we just,... we just tweet out evidence of our fuckery!? 

The Overton window has been ripped off it's hinges, smeared with shit, and thrown into the burning dumpster of history. 

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14 minutes ago, The Royal We said:

Not only executing foreign nationals for offenses that would not be punishable by death if arrested, tried, and convicted, but ALSO bragging about it on social media. They made whole ass movies about doing shit like this covertly and covering it up to avoid blow back. And now we just,... we just tweet out evidence of our fuckery!? 

The Overton window has been ripped off it's hinges, smeared with shit, and thrown into the burning dumpster of history. 

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Posted
48 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

If you need a distraction, start killing people.

 

Yep, it’s been happening for years and years.

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/venezuela-fighter-jets-navy-ship-trump-maduro/

Two armed Venezuelan F-16 fighter jets flew over the USS Jason Dunham on Thursday, according to multiple Defense Department officials who described the action as a "show of force." 

The Dunham, an Aegis guided-missile destroyer, is among a flotilla of U.S. warships dispatched to the region in recent weeks that the Pentagon says have been deployed to target criminal organizations and narco-terrorism.

 

 

Edit: that's a real FAFO to fuck with an Aegis DDG flying an F16, but it could be a flashpoint for other dumb shit to kick off

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23 minutes ago, Captainant said:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/venezuela-fighter-jets-navy-ship-trump-maduro/

Two armed Venezuelan F-16 fighter jets flew over the USS Jason Dunham on Thursday, according to multiple Defense Department officials who described the action as a "show of force." 

The Dunham, an Aegis guided-missile destroyer, is among a flotilla of U.S. warships dispatched to the region in recent weeks that the Pentagon says have been deployed to target criminal organizations and narco-terrorism.

We should start a pool on how many Venezuelans we kill in the next week.

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Ghost of NMAS said:

They’ll probably sign a mutual defense treaty with China and we’ll end up with Chinese bases in our backyard

Could anybody blame them if we start killing them to distract from other stuff?

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20 hours ago, Captainant said:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/venezuela-fighter-jets-navy-ship-trump-maduro/

Two armed Venezuelan F-16 fighter jets flew over the USS Jason Dunham on Thursday, according to multiple Defense Department officials who described the action as a "show of force." 

The Dunham, an Aegis guided-missile destroyer, is among a flotilla of U.S. warships dispatched to the region in recent weeks that the Pentagon says have been deployed to target criminal organizations and narco-terrorism.

 

 

Edit: that's a real FAFO to fuck with an Aegis DDG flying an F16, but it could be a flashpoint for other dumb shit to kick off

next their Mig 21's are coming. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

They are using the 2001 AUMF as cover for this shit. Are we ever gonna fn learn. 

Not defending the Congressional abdication here, but not even SCOTUS could uphold that.

the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.

Posted
47 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Not defending the Congressional abdication here, but not even SCOTUS could uphold that

You must be new here. 

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Not defending the Congressional abdication here, but not even SCOTUS could uphold that.

the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.

*laughs in drone strikes*

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On 9/7/2025 at 8:37 AM, Armybrat said:

Fuck Maduro and his criminal band of commie thugs.

I'm ok with blasting Venezuelan drug runners.

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Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, Laguna said:

I'm ok with blasting Venezuelan drug runners.

Cool.

Please provide the proof that the boat blasted was drug runners.  And that everyone on board was Venezuelan.

Just executing the fuck out of people without an actual adjudication that they are committing a crime is....a problem for societies that have this thing called "the Rule of Law."  These are not combatants, attacking or conducting preparations for an attack on the US.  They are - even if the accusation is true - just criminals transporting drugs.

Do we get to blast any suspected "drug dealers" in US waters?  On US streets?  When RFK Jr. was dealing drugs in college, would it have been okay to have hit him with a Hellfire missile?  What about that guy who someone just accuses of dealing drugs, but really, the accusation is a lie?

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6 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Cool.

Please provide the proof that the boat blasted was drug runners.  And that everyone on board was Venezuelan.

Just executing the fuck out of people without an actual adjudication that they are committing a crime is....a problem for societies that have this thing called "the Rule of Law."  These are not combatants, attacking or conducting preparations for an attack on the US.  They are - even if the accusation is true - just criminals transporting drugs.

Do we get to blast any suspected "drug dealers" in US waters?  On US streets?  When RFK Jr. was dealing drugs in college, would it have been okay to have hit him with a Hellfire missile?  What about that guy who someone just accuses of dealing drugs, but really, the accusation is a lie?

You're asking these questions in an attempt to highlight the absurdity of the logical extreme.

The answer to all of your questions from our resident libertarians and constitutionalists is "yes."

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4 minutes ago, Foosters said:

You're asking these questions in an attempt to highlight the absurdity of the logical extreme.

The answer to all of your questions from our resident libertarians and constitutionalists is "yes."

Perfectly correct.

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Posted
24 minutes ago, jdhorn92 said:

They don't call it a War on Drugs for nothing.

That’s a “war” that’s been waged since the 70s.  

Sounds like we aren’t fighting a war, but instead feeding a military-industrial complex and a law enforcement and prison industry.

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Posted
8 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Just executing the fuck out of people without an actual adjudication that they are committing a crime is....a problem for societies that have this thing called "the Rule of Law."  These are not combatants, attacking or conducting preparations for an attack on the US.  They are - even if the accusation is true - just criminals transporting drugs.

Let’s call it what it really is - a good old fashioned distraction for the American yokels.

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Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

That’s a “war” that’s been waged since the 70s.  

Sounds like we aren’t fighting a war, but instead feeding a military-industrial complex and a law enforcement and prison industry.

Oh, don't forget....finding a back door that allows us to re-institute Jim Crow and Juan Crow!  Brown people in a boat with drugs, maybe, who knows, we didn't exactly search it?  Blow em the fuck up!  Black dude with weed?  Hoodlum!  Toss him in jail for a decade!  White kid with weed?  Well, he's a good kid, from a good family, no point in ruining his life over a youthful indiscretion.

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20 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

That’s a “war” that’s been waged since the 70s.  

Sounds like we aren’t fighting a war, but instead feeding a military-industrial complex and a law enforcement and prison industry.

Yes we have. DEA teams embedded with Colombian Police. Raids in Guatemala. The difference is we did not make it a major policy announcement. 

Usually we used their police and military. But we trained and equipped them. Embedded advisors, provided intel, etc. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Cross Posting. 

What to know today

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/live-blog/trump-vance-charlie-kirk-live-updates-rcna230852

Epstein files ain't going to keep on knocking themselves out of the news cycle, are they?

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Cross Posting. 

What to know today

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/live-blog/trump-vance-charlie-kirk-live-updates-rcna230852

And you know, given that we have the world's most powerful navy and intelligence monitoring services, it seems like a better use of our assets would be...oh I don't know, see where these dudes stop, who they meet up with, where the final stop is (if it's even in the US), try to trace things back to the source nation(s) and basically using that to build up a holistic picture of drug smuggling.  Something that we've done many times in the past, and in the Middle East/North Africa with terrorists.

Because this did nothing to actually address drug smuggling - this *maybe* took a tiny amount of drugs off the streets, but it didn't, oh I don't know, deal with the originating organizations that grew it and shipped it, and it didn't deal with the network of distribution within the US mainland and/or the points between the Caribbean and the US or the Pacific and the US.  And it didn't deal with the end users who are funding this.  But it made somebody feel powerful, so I guess that's what matters.

 

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U.S. preparing options for strikes on drug targets inside Venezuela: sources – NBC New York

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U.S. military officials are drawing up options to target drug traffickers inside Venezuela, and strikes within that country’s borders could potentially begin in a matter of weeks, four sources told NBC News. Those sources are two U.S. officials familiar with the planning and two other sources familiar with the discussions. They spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the plans publicly.

Striking inside Venezuela would be another escalation in the Trump administration’s military campaign against alleged drug targets and its stance toward Venezuela’s government.

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Strikes inside Venezuela could happen in the next several weeks, but the president has not approved anything yet, the four people said. Two of them and an additional official familiar with the discussions said that the United States’ recent military escalation is in part a result of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro not doing enough, in the administration’s view, to stop the flow of illegal drugs out of his country.

The plans being discussed primarily focus on drone strikes against drug trafficking groups’ members and leadership, as well as targeting drug labs, the four sources said.

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Asked for comment, the White House referred NBC News to this previous statement from the president: “We’ll see what happens. Venezuela is sending us their gang members, their drug dealers and drugs. It’s not acceptable.” The Pentagon declined to comment.

Some Trump administration officials are disappointed that the United States’ military escalation does not appear to have weakened Maduro’s grip on power or prompted any significant response, the official familiar with the discussions said. The White House has faced more pushback on the strikes against the drug boats than it anticipated, prompting the administration to think carefully about next steps, the official familiar with the discussions said.

Lot of Venezuelans are gonna die until people stop taking an interest in the Epstein files.

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Posted
1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Maduro will declare war.  It will be a futile and stupid gesture, but it will get a lot of people killed.

That's what trump wants the most - an enemy to be a wartime president against

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Posted
1 hour ago, Captainant said:

That's what trump wants the most - an enemy to be a wartime president against

1234.  He and Pete are pretending the DoD is called the Department of War for a reason whether it’s the streets of D.C. or Venezuela. And he’s not going to pick a tough enemy.  

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