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8 minutes ago, Helobious said:

I didn’t know that but it looks like you’re right. Jesus nobody lives in WY. I doubt an outdoor game attended by 1500 people is going to cause some massive outbreak in the state however.

Massive outbreak is already happening all over the state, relatively speaking. And we are inviting hundreds from the hottest spot to visit our town this weekend, watch a football game, eat at out restaurants, and sleep at our hotels. While we are running out of hospital beds and the governor is on tv begging people to act more responsibility (because if he starts with any heavy handed mandates he won’t get re-elected).

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9 minutes ago, Helobious said:

I didn’t know that but it looks like you’re right. Jesus nobody lives in WY. I doubt an outdoor game attended by 1500 people is going to cause some massive outbreak in the state however.

A gathering of 1500 people in Wyoming is literally like a gathering of 100-200k in Texas or California.  Outside or not, it's not a fucking good idea.  

Nobody lives in South Dakota either, their 200,000 person gathering does not appear to have been terribly kind to their hospital system.  

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The sentient thumb running the state in which I live, steadfastly refuses to mandate masks but basically said we are going to back to the spring lockdown protocol except for allowing high school sports in front of immediately family once we hit 25% of hospital beds filled with Covid patients. We are at 20% today, and at the current pace will hit that around next Thursday. The anti-mask people in Omaha at least called off their plan to all show up at HyVee mask free to shop. The chancellor of UNL also is begging people not to have football watch parties. (One could argue Scott Frost has been doing that with his coaching, but here we are) 

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27 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Yeah, just looking at the geography of WY...you're right...most fans will be staying somewhere nearby after the game.  Which means meals, gatherings, etc.  Kinda like my wife told my in-laws in NW Kansas, "Look around you...there are no more hospital beds in your middle of nowhere.  And although you're good savers and have means...your hospital groups aren't.  You'll be the last small towns in the continental U.S. to get the vaccine."  And every weekend, they tell her some other random high school volleyball match or third cousin's confirmation they just had to attend.  

Socializing, in whatever form from New York to small town Wyoming, is part of the human experience.  I get it.  But what the fuck...if on its best day...my local hospital can barely treat 10 older people with typical octogenarian shit...I'm not gonna tempt the fates and go get Covid-19 to boot.  What the fuck is society's fascination with being around other people?  I spent 43 years being around people constantly.  God willing, I'll spend the next 43 years being around people constantly.  What the fuck is the big deal about 10 months off in the middle?  I want my mom to see her granddaughters as much as anything in the world.  But travel for her right now would probably kill her, so I wait.  Everybody else besides her is younger and healthier so they can fucking wait too.  Get to the back of the line and do your fucking part.  

As the county seat, and semi-retirement home for lots of doctors and surgeons, we have a nice little hospital that can handle many non-emergent needs in house, and normal emergencies. But the place has something like 50 beds and 3 ICU beds. So it’s not like it will take a huge crunch before local facilities are tapped out- and it’s not like Billings or SLC are in a position to take the overrun. 

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4 minutes ago, Royalfan5 said:

The sentient thumb running the state in which I live, steadfastly refuses to mandate masks but basically said we are going to back to the spring lockdown protocol except for allowing high school sports in front of immediately family once we hit 25% of hospital beds filled with Covid patients. We are at 20% today, and at the current pace will hit that around next Thursday. The anti-mask people in Omaha at least called off their plan to all show up at HyVee mask free to shop. The chancellor of UNL also is begging people not to have football watch parties. (One could argue Scott Frost has been doing that with his coaching, but here we are) 

First off-pos rep on Sentient Thumb.  Which is also the name of my Hoobastank tribute band.  

But is that really their rationale?  That high school sports played in front of immediate family is still okay?  If your immediate family is up in the stands, who gives a shit about household contact?  You're down on the field/court with people you don't live with and they're up int he stands with people they don't live with.  How does the fact you live under the same roof with some people up in row 17 protect you while you're between the baselines with 9 other kids you're not related to?   This is the outstanding logic I expect from Aggies or Qanon people, not normal public health officials.  I'm starting to think stupid people of one particular socio-political ilk think that because you're with certain people at night under one roof, that if you travel with them to another place to be around a bunch of other people who are not under that same roof at night...that somehow your inter-family pandemic powers will somehow keep you safe while you're around those other people.  How else do you explain this batshit craziness?  

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22 minutes ago, Royalfan5 said:

I’m pretty sure the high school rule is just to try and give cover to finishing the playoffs 

When South Austin's mom ruled my high school, she gave me cover to finish in her playoff.  

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4 hours ago, Bevo said:

An mRNA vaccine would be unlikely to cause these sorts of issues. The only way this could happen is if the protein that the mRNA makes (spike protein) has an analogous segment to some protein that humans naturally make. If that occurs, the person would make antibodies to some human protein. It is possible, but would have probably been picked up through scientific searches or through the clinical trials.

This. I am comfortable with the risk benefit at this point. If there was a large effect size acute issue it would have already been flushed out. What’s left are relatively rare acute adverse events and longer term stuff. Cancer initiation or promotion for example won’t be picked up in the time frames that we have been working with. 
 

You give 300mm people anything and you are going to throw off some signals. I hope that the media controls themselves. I am not sure what we will do with our kids atm, but I’m lining up day 1 I get the call as long as I am getting an mRNA based vax. I do have concerns since these are novel mechanisms of action, but on the balance I am ready to roll the dice. 

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1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Little known fact, Cody is slowly getting on the radar of rich people that aren’t rich enough for Jackson. Kanye looked here because of the difference in politics, but multimillionaires are moving here that can’t get in Jackson what the billionaires have. 

Yeah, I think one of the problems with Wyoming and Montana is that rich people  from NY and California regularly fly back and forth between states. Then they go to restaurants and see the locals casual and act cavalier themselves.

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2 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Little known fact, Cody is slowly getting on the radar of rich people that aren’t rich enough for Jackson. Kanye looked here because of the difference in politics, but multimillionaires are moving here that can’t get in Jackson what the billionaires have. 

Don’t know if this is entirely true. Last year a three acre plot with Teton views could be had for just north of $1mm. Doesn’t seem quite at billionaire level yet. There is a minimum square footage requirements so construction is probably a minimum of $3mm on top of that. 
 

Another 40 acre plot with Teton views was $7mm. The price seems low because it currently cannot be subdivided. 
 

Also quick PSA. JAC will be closed from April to June in 2022 for runway construction. Surly 1% will need to land their jets elsewhere. 
 

edit: this is your $1mm view. 

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4 minutes ago, Telegraph_it said:

Don’t know if this is entirely true. Last year a three acre plot with Teton views could be had for just north of $1mm. Doesn’t seem quite at billionaire level yet. There is a minimum square footage requirements so construction is probably a minimum of $3mm on top of that. 
 

Another 40 acre plot with Teton views was $7mm. The price seems low because it currently cannot be subdivided. 
 

Also quick PSA. JAC will be closed from April to June in 2022 for runway construction. Surly 1% will need to land their jets elsewhere. 
 

edit. This is your $1mm view. 
 

Grasshoppers take note. This is how you humble brag.

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39 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Oregon just locked down for 2 weeks. 4 weeks for Multnomah County(Portland)

 

Entire West Coast issues 14 day quarantine upon arrival from other state or country.

Recommended right?  We were headed to Cali to stay in a house on the beach for a couple of weeks but I think that just went down the shitter.

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41 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Oregon just locked down for 2 weeks. 4 weeks for Multnomah County(Portland)

 

Entire West Coast issues 14 day quarantine upon arrival from other state or country.

Colorado needs to do that same.  We hit 6400 cases today and the growth is ramping up extremely fast.  Yesterday was our first day above 5k.  There ain't gonna be a ski season if we don't get this shit under control ASAP.

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6 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

Of course it's halfassed horseshit.

I have no idea what the reality of enforcement will be.  I did hear a replay  of Kate Brown’s announcement and it was an extremely parsed and caveated announcement.

So feel free to fist yourself.

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46 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

Can someone drive over to the Cedar Park HEB and slap this bitch for me?  She's probably still there crying.

 

Get the fuck out of HEB you "Shed the Mask"-wearing t-shirt fuckhead.

Yeah, wear a "Shed the Mask" t-shirt and then act surprised when people get pissed at you in the middle of a fucking pandemic.

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5 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Over 180,000 cases today (another record), up from 170k yesterday and 160k the day before that, and 140k the day before that, and 135k the day before that

Why would we test more this week for something that we wouldn't hear about anymore starting last week?  What kinda fucking timeline is this?  

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My dad is on day 13 in the hospital thanks to Covid. He'll be there another few weeks getting OT and PT because he got so weak but is slowly getting better. 

That being said, I need to stay home moreso because I'll end up in jail for assault if I see a cunt like that in public. 

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https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/people-plan-attend-holiday-gatherings-despite-rising-covid-19-cases-survey-202344244.html

The survey, which polled more than 2,000 people on their holiday plans, found that 40 percent intend to be part of a holiday gathering with more than 10 people. A third of the study participants also say they don’t plan to ask guests to wear a mask.

 

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10 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

A brief list of fun facts that are relevant to me:

1) tomorrow in Cody, there will be a state championship football game between Cody and Jackson. 
2) because it’s the state championship, a further exception to the crowd gathering order from 1000 to 1500 was asked for and granted. 
3) Jackson Hole is in Teton county. 
4) Teton county is going remote school as of Monday because the covid outbreak in the area is so severe. 
5) the governor had a 45 minute press conference this morning begging us to be responsible, and saying our hospitals are almost full and there’s no capacity in neighboring states to help us. 
6) it’s about a 5 hour drive between Cody and Jackson so I assume most fans that travel here for the game will be staying at least one night at a hotel or with friends and relatives  

 

Go Broncs!  Fuck Cody!

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10 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

A brief list of fun facts that are relevant to me:

1) tomorrow in Cody, there will be a state championship football game between Cody and Jackson. 
2) because it’s the state championship, a further exception to the crowd gathering order from 1000 to 1500 was asked for and granted. 
3) Jackson Hole is in Teton county. 
4) Teton county is going remote school as of Monday because the covid outbreak in the area is so severe. 
5) the governor had a 45 minute press conference this morning begging us to be responsible, and saying our hospitals are almost full and there’s no capacity in neighboring states to help us. 
6) it’s about a 5 hour drive between Cody and Jackson so I assume most fans that travel here for the game will be staying at least one night at a hotel or with friends and relatives  

 

Go Broncs!  Fuck Cody!

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4 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Get the fuck out of HEB you "Shed the Mask"-wearing t-shirt fuckhead.

Yeah, wear a "Shed the Mask" t-shirt and then act surprised when people get pissed at you in the middle of a fucking pandemic.

Not really an advocate for violence, but these folks really should be culled from Earth (or the human gene pool at bare minimum).

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On 11/13/2020 at 9:46 AM, Liquor and Poker said:

Maybe at 23 you just roll the dice since your buddy's GF had it and was asymptomatic. 

 

Don’t forget the long haulers. We have no idea if being asymptomatic today means you get glass lung effect or other long term bs. Not saying there will be but the fact is we just don’t know any long term effects on people just bc one was “asymptomatic”

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My dad is on day 13 in the hospital thanks to Covid. He'll be there another few weeks getting OT and PT because he got so weak but is slowly getting better. 
That being said, I need to stay home moreso because I'll end up in jail for assault if I see a cunt like that in public. 

Thoughts and prayers (seriously and not surly sarcastic) for your dad.
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