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Against my better judgment and several beers deep, I have taken you up on this, potentially ending my streak of totally worthless posts. I have done 3 and 7 day averages only on the Worldometer data. 

Daughter’s home. A little PTSD, we’re picking up Whataburger to help.

Just try and imagine GreenspointTexas being the person to intubate you as you fight for your life against COVID-19. You’re laying there gasping for air while he chastises you for all the things you li

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27 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Haha. Florida just kicks all kind of ass.

And yet, DeSantis is still getting killed by the media because he...vaccinated seniors first?

The MSM is an absolute joke.  One can make a very strong argument that Florida and DeSantis handled the pandemic better than any state and governor when you take into account health outcomes, educational outcomes, economic outcomes, and vaccination rates.

If the celebrities and media had any intellectual honesty they would force Cuomo to give the Emmy they gave him last year to Desantis.

Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican, ignored federal guidelines and prioritized getting senior citizens — one of Florida’s most potent voting blocs — vaccinated first.

 

DeSantis said that his "seniors first strategy" zeroes in on retirement communities that are willing to help organize vaccination events and that Manatee County has trailed other parts of the state in getting needles into the arms of residents ages 65 and older.

The governor said the state had set up similar sites at the Kings Point community in Palm Beach County, Sun City Center in Hillsborough County, and The Villages retirement community northwest of Orlando.

“If Manatee County doesn’t like us doing this, we are totally fine with putting this in counties that want it,” he said.

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7 hours ago, Enchubben said:

Tell your wife thank you. What she is doing is helping beyond comprehension. As a parent of a special needs toddler, missing school, therapy or social interaction outside of the home this past year can has had such a drastic impact on their development. Those kids are also confused and scared I’m sure. 

I don’t think you meant the comment about parents dropping their kids off in a derogatory manner, but I doubt many of those parents like dropping their kids off. You do have to weigh their development of life skills and normalcy at an early age over comfort for them to have a chance at a normal life. At the most severe phases of this Covid shit I would have continued in person therapy for my daughter given the chance. This really fucked a lot of kids and parents and continues to do so.

I don't disagree and didn't mean to imply that there isn't a vital need for the services. My wife's anger and frustration is more directed at the school district for what she rightly perceives as total abandonment of her and her staff. The district spent months planning and then re-planning the opening of the other classrooms right down to the inches measured between desks. Unions involved. Meetings galore. For her program, they gave her a box of masks and said "good luck."

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I've been pretty good about following the guidance and doing what I believe to be the right thing through all of this, but if we get to the holidays this Fall and we're still wearing masks I just may lose my shit.


We won’t. I like the strong signs we are seeing that we are coming out of this. A 77% drop in cases despite only a small fraction of the population having been vaccinated, plus we just came out of the holidays, signals a tipping point. Just one idiot’s opinion of course.

And anecdotal, but my neighbor who works at one of the biggest hospitals in Atlanta says he’s seen a sharp decline in cases. ICU cases are flatter, but he says they almost all have a complication that (sadly) puts them in the “something would have gotten them sooner or later” bucket.
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I'm mostly "meh" about the Plague flakeout, but I haven't had the flu yet this year. Compares to the 2-3 times I get it every year. When we all have the Cure, I might keep wearing the mask in the winter.


You get the flu 2-3 times per year? I don’t think I’ve had it 2-3 times in my life. That sucks man.
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8 hours ago, Enchubben said:

Tell your wife thank you. What she is doing is helping beyond comprehension. As a parent of a special needs toddler, missing school, therapy or social interaction outside of the home this past year can has had such a drastic impact on their development. Those kids are also confused and scared I’m sure. 

I don’t think you meant the comment about parents dropping their kids off in a derogatory manner, but I doubt many of those parents like dropping their kids off. You do have to weigh their development of life skills and normalcy at an early age over comfort for them to have a chance at a normal life. At the most severe phases of this Covid shit I would have continued in person therapy for my daughter given the chance. This really fucked a lot of kids and parents and continues to do so.

We went through that journey with my oldest son and fortunately made it out the other side. I can’t imagine how much it must hurt to watch your toddler kind of plateau while all of this is going on. Good luck to you. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, Foosters said:

I don't disagree and didn't mean to imply that there isn't a vital need for the services. My wife's anger and frustration is more directed at the school district for what she rightly perceives as total abandonment of her and her staff. The district spent months planning and then re-planning the opening of the other classrooms right down to the inches measured between desks. Unions involved. Meetings galore. For her program, they gave her a box of masks and said "good luck."

Well that’s total bullshit. Unfortunately those kids and their teachers are sometimes an afterthought when they should be a priority. It’s a shame. 

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If someone spent an entire year crying about how disingenuous and harmful the media is then constantly spammed this thread with clickbait outrage-trap tweets highlighting things like what one dumbass irrelevant principal in some city thinks about Covid, what would that make them? A hypocrite? Intellectually dishonest? Partisan hack? A giant whiny blubbering vagina?

Asking for a friend.

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1 hour ago, BradInATX said:

If someone spent an entire year crying about how disingenuous and harmful the media is then constantly spammed this thread with clickbait outrage-trap tweets highlighting things like what one dumbass irrelevant principal in some city thinks about Covid, what would that make them? A hypocrite? Intellectually dishonest? Partisan hack? A giant whiny blubbering vagina?

Asking for a friend.

So the media isn't wrong? I mean sure you may not be wrong about the tweets, but does seem that media has bias as well.

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1 hour ago, BradInATX said:

If someone spent an entire year crying about how disingenuous and harmful the media is then constantly spammed this thread with clickbait outrage-trap tweets highlighting things like what one dumbass irrelevant principal in some city thinks about Covid, what would that make them? A hypocrite? Intellectually dishonest? Partisan hack? A giant whiny blubbering vagina?

Asking for a friend.

I’m always caught off guard when I realize there’s people out there that don’t think the media is shit. 

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I’m always caught off guard when I realize there’s people out there that don’t think the media is shit. 

I'm on record many times on this board stating that there's a lot of irresponsible journalism. I've called it out frequently on #bothsides.

But I also don't turn around and post idiotic clickbait tweets and fake news. Because I'm not a hypocrite. The poster in question has posted blatant hyper partisan fake news multiple times and run away when called on it. He also constantly posts dumb clickbait nonsense meant to trigger the outrage-addicted male Karens of the world.

It's pitiful. He's the whiniest little bitch on this entire board.
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But not the whiniest little bitch on this thread at the moment. 


Dumb.

This entire thread has turned into the same 5 posters crying because their state subsidized babysitters won't watch their children for them fast enough for their liking. It's an awful circle jerk of emotional crybabies who are angry about the hardship of being forced to be around their children for extended periods of time.

We should just rename the thread to "a bunch of whiny chumps complaining about liberal teachers" because there is zero useful information or discussion about Covid here.

The minute said group of 5 posters confirmed that they're offended by moving teachers to the essential workers group but still demand that the teachers put themselves in a building with thousands of other people was the minute it became obvious that this is purely a partisan issue for you and them. Education = liberals and liberals are bad. Pathetic childish stupidity.
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19 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

 


We won’t. I like the strong signs we are seeing that we are coming out of this. A 77% drop in cases despite only a small fraction of the population having been vaccinated, plus we just came out of the holidays, signals a tipping point. Just one idiot’s opinion of course.

And anecdotal, but my neighbor who works at one of the biggest hospitals in Atlanta says he’s seen a sharp decline in cases. ICU cases are flatter, but he says they almost all have a complication that (sadly) puts them in the “something would have gotten them sooner or later” bucket.

 

Something will get all of us sooner or later

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It's an awful circle jerk of emotional crybabies who are angry about the hardship of being forced to be around their children for extended periods of time.
 

 

In their defense that does sound awful.

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Dumb.

This entire thread has turned into the same 5 posters crying because their state subsidized babysitters won't watch their children for them fast enough for their liking. It's an awful circle jerk of emotional crybabies who are angry about the hardship of being forced to be around their children for extended periods of time.

We should just rename the thread to "a bunch of whiny chumps complaining about liberal teachers" because there is zero useful information or discussion about Covid here.

The minute said group of 5 posters confirmed that they're offended by moving teachers to the essential workers group but still demand that the teachers put themselves in a building with thousands of other people was the minute it became obvious that this is purely a partisan issue for you and them. Education = liberals and liberals are bad. Pathetic childish stupidity.

Your bit about lecturing us how terrible this thread is is as nauseating as our leaders telling us we need to get our kids back to school.
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Your bit about teaching us how terrible this thread is as nauseating as our leaders telling us we need to get our kids back to school.

I mean I'm not expecting any of the aforementioned Triggered Five to react to my post positively. You guys can figure out who you are. It's not difficult.

The disdain for the teachers is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourselves if you haven't forgotten what shame is.
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If you think the entire school discussion can be boiled down to subsidized day care and and parents sick of being around their children, you clearly don’t understand the issue from the perspective of a parent of school aged children. There are many facets and perspectives involved. But Brad has the motivations all figured out.

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10 minutes ago, BradInATX said:


I mean I get it, I had a toddler at home for 5 months. The lengths I went to to keep him entertained while I worked were pretty extreme. I never did find a small human-sized hamster wheel.

Ah, I see. This is just you projecting. 

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Ah, I see. This is just you projecting. 
Quite the opposite. I managed to go that entire time without needing to come on the internet and cry about day care not reopening until they felt comfortable with it. Being a man and handling tough times without complaining or needing to constantly blame and lash out is not for everyone though.
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26 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

If you think the entire school discussion can be boiled down to subsidized day care and and parents sick of being around their children, you clearly don’t understand the issue from the perspective of a parent of school aged children.

 

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I mean I'm not expecting any of the aforementioned Triggered Five to react to my post positively. You guys can figure out who you are. It's not difficult.

The disdain for the teachers is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourselves if you haven't forgotten what shame is.

Yea it’s sucks teachers are getting represented by quack unions by which they get shat on by the public. I’d wager most actual teachers would rather do in person for all than double duty of in person and online.


Oh and officer Brad- Will you please patrol the CR covid thread? There seems to be some fly by clickbait tweet about Desantis distributing the vaccine to favored zip codes. It’s a weird article. I’d like it fact checked and your stamp of approval. I know you’re busy with patrol so please take a look when you have time.
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Yea it’s sucks teachers are getting represented by quack unions by which they get shat on by the public. I’d wager most actual teachers would rather do in person for all than double duty of in person and online.


Oh and officer Brad- Will you please patrol the CR covid thread? There seems to be some fly by clickbait tweet about Desantis distributing the vaccine to favored zip codes. It’s a weird article. I’d like it fact checked and your stamp of approval. I know you’re busy with patrol so please take a look when you have time.

I've rarely gone to the CR since the election. But I'll check it out and police as needed.
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59 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

 


Dumb.

This entire thread has turned into the same 5 posters crying because their state subsidized babysitters won't watch their children for them fast enough for their liking. It's an awful circle jerk of emotional crybabies who are angry about the hardship of being forced to be around their children for extended periods of time.

We should just rename the thread to "a bunch of whiny chumps complaining about liberal teachers" because there is zero useful information or discussion about Covid here.

The minute said group of 5 posters confirmed that they're offended by moving teachers to the essential workers group but still demand that the teachers put themselves in a building with thousands of other people was the minute it became obvious that this is purely a partisan issue for you and them. Education = liberals and liberals are bad. Pathetic childish stupidity.

 

First things first, my state subsidized babysitters have been in service since August, so that’s not why I post about it. 
 

You may not believe me, but I really just feel terrible for these kids around the country that are being held hostage for unscientific, political reasons. It’s a detriment to our whole country, not just the regions where this nonsense is happening. It’s the most significant inadequacy left in our Covid response. That’s why I post about it in this thread. 
 

I already explained why I don’t think teachers should be at the front of the line or need vacations as prerequisite for opening. There’s millions of seniors unvaccinated. 

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8 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:


Yea it’s sucks teachers are getting represented by quack unions by which they get shat on by the public. I’d wager most actual teachers would rather do in person for all than double duty of in person and online.


Oh and officer Brad- Will you please patrol the CR covid thread? There seems to be some fly by clickbait tweet about Desantis distributing the vaccine to favored zip codes. It’s a weird article. I’d like it fact checked and your stamp of approval. I know you’re busy with patrol so please take a look when you have time.

I mean, CBS news is an actual journalistic outlet and the reporting is well sourced. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-governor-ron-desantis-covid-19-vaccine-distribution/

Not exactly a low effort tweet or op-ed from a financial paper

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First things first, my state subsidized babysitters have been in service since August, so that’s not why I post about it. 
 
You may not believe me, but I really just feel terrible for these kids around the country that are being held hostage for unscientific, political reasons. It’s a detriment to our whole country, not just the regions where this nonsense is happening. It’s the most significant inadequacy left in our Covid response. That’s why I post about it in this thread. 
 
I already explained why I don’t think teachers should be at the front of the line or need vacations as prerequisite for opening. There’s millions of seniors unvaccinated. 

We aren't forcing millions of seniors to go and share the same air as 3,000+ other human beings either.

To be fair, you're one of the few on this thread that I actually believe would personally go into a building with a mask and thousands of other people. You're already certainly around many Covid+ people at work. I know for a fact a lot of folks who are going full Karen and demanding unvaccinated teachers expose themselves would, under no circumstances, walk into a building with 3000 teenagers, mask or no mask.

I do still find it hypocritical of you. I've seen you on some of the other threads and you're a dude that seems to be fine with police having tanks and military gear despite there being no evidence that they need it. You want them protected still. And yet teachers are beneath your concern. Why?
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3 minutes ago, BradInATX said:


We aren't forcing millions of seniors to go and share the same air as 3,000+ other human beings either.

To be fair, you're one of the few on this thread that I actually believe would personally go into a building with a mask and thousands of other people. You're already certainly around many Covid+ people at work. I know for a fact a lot of folks who are going full Karen and demanding unvaccinated teachers expose themselves would, under no circumstances, walk into a building with 3000 teenagers, mask or no mask.

I do still find it hypocritical of you. I've seen you on some of the other threads and you're a dude that seems to be fine with police having tanks and military gear despite there being no evidence that they need it. You want them protected still. And yet teachers are beneath your concern. Why?

You have me confused with somebody else. I’m against militarized police. 💯 

Teachers aren’t beneath my concern. I just don’t put them above millions of other people working indoors since this started. They’ll be around humans less likely to have it or give it to them. It’s really that simple. 
 

10 minutes ago, Captainant said:

I mean, CBS news is an actual journalistic outlet and the reporting is well sourced. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-governor-ron-desantis-covid-19-vaccine-distribution/

Not exactly a low effort tweet or op-ed from a financial paper

Local governor gets groups of most vulnerable people vaccinated. 
 

I haven’t followed vaccine rollout in Florida, but I feel comfortable saying that mainstream media will skew anything about Florida or DeSantis in a negative light going forward. I quite literally throw their interpretation of anything out the window. It’s really unfortunate. 
 

 

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Local governor gets groups of most vulnerable people vaccinated. 
 
I haven’t followed vaccine rollout in Florida, but I feel comfortable saying that mainstream media will skew anything about Florida or DeSantis in a negative light going forward. I quite literally throw their interpretation of anything out the window. It’s really unfortunate. 
 
 
Quote doesn't work right on Tapa, trying to quote your reply to me.

Fair on police.

You're sending mixed messages on vaccines. If you're saying that everyone who has elevated public exposure due to work should get priority then I agree fully. Sack and I talked about the same thing. I think all of them should go 1A. Police, teachers, emergency responders, essential retail, military, etc.

But you keep harping on olds who are not forced to expose themselves. So your messaging is confusing.
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22 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

You may not believe me, but I really just feel terrible for these kids around the country that are being held hostage for unscientific, political reasons. It’s a detriment to our whole country, not just the regions where this nonsense is happening. It’s the most significant inadequacy left in our Covid response. That’s why I post about it in this thread. 

At some point we are going to have sufficient long term data to examine the extent and consequences of educational disruption for tens of millions of American children.  We'll be able to do comparisons across regions with different policy approaches, and we will be able to examine the consequences among families that took different approaches within specific policy regions (i.e. home vs in school). We will see the real impacts, and we will see amplified disparities in education. I think that a lot of people will regret the rigid approach taken by some school districts, compared to the more flexible approaches with strong safety protocols taken by others.

This year is basically in the books. Will be interesting to see how it plays out over the summer as we gear up for fall.

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I mean, CBS news is an actual journalistic outlet and the reporting is well sourced. 
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-governor-ron-desantis-covid-19-vaccine-distribution/
Not exactly a low effort tweet or op-ed from a financial paper

Read the article, then the headline and explain to me how they correlate with one another


Edit: I had to read it 2 times to actually see the point of an article. So a republican heavy area got their vaccines. And?
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1 hour ago, BradInATX said:

Quote doesn't work right on Tapa, trying to quote your reply to me.

Fair on police.

You're sending mixed messages on vaccines. If you're saying that everyone who has elevated public exposure due to work should get priority then I agree fully. Sack and I talked about the same thing. I think all of them should go 1A. Police, teachers, emergency responders, essential retail, military, etc.

But you keep harping on olds who are not forced to expose themselves. So your messaging is confusing.

In GR world seniors, starting with say 75 and up would get priority along with their caretakers at facilities and other first responders. Then maybe go down to 65 and include our massive obese population. I look at it mostly from the standpoint of how to most reduce morbidity and mortality due to the virus. 
 

I would also exclude people who have had confirmed cases from receiving the vaccine. 

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In GR world seniors, starting with say 75 and up would get priority along with their caretakers at facilities and other first responders. Then maybe go down to 65 and include our massive obese population. I look at it mostly from the standpoint of how to most reduce morbidity and mortality due to the virus. 
 
I would also exclude people who have had confirmed cases from receiving the vaccine. 
Eh. It's funny how the olds become important when we're pushing an anti-teacher agenda but for the past year lots of you have hand waved off the significance of Covid because it mostly kills olds.

They're only important when it's expedient to a political agenda is what it looks like.

If you want to force teachers into high contact situations then vaccinate them. If you don't want to vaccinate them then you can spend another month or so with your kids until the teachers are protected. You want to have your cake and eat it too.

Our frontline workers deserve better.
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39 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

Eh. It's funny how the olds become important when we're pushing an anti-teacher agenda but for the past year lots of you have hand waved off the significance of Covid because it mostly kills olds.

They're only important when it's expedient to a political agenda is what it looks like.

If you want to force teachers into high contact situations then vaccinate them. If you don't want to vaccinate them then you can spend another month or so with your kids until the teachers are protected. You want to have your cake and eat it too.

Our frontline workers deserve better.

It’s just a nuanced argument, I guess. 
 

Covid and lockdowns- it disproportionately affects old people so they should stay home as much as possible, BUT blanket restrictions on the entire population including young adults don’t make sense. Protect the vulnerable, let everyone else live as normally as possible. 
 

Vaccines- who will they help the most? Old people and obese people. Give them the vaccine first. Protect the most vulnerable. 

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It’s just a nuanced argument, I guess. 
 
Covid and lockdowns- it disproportionately affects old people so they should stay home as much as possible, BUT blanket restrictions on the entire population including young adults don’t make sense. Protect the vulnerable, let everyone else live as normally as possible. 
 
Vaccines- who will they help the most? Old people and obese people. Give them the vaccine first. Protect the most vulnerable. 

Fair. I think I'd prefer that folks like you respect the working class a little more. We can agree to disagree. You're still my boy. You too, anny, even if you're a fuckhead like a third of the time on here (queue spiderman.gif)
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