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On 9/13/2020 at 7:22 PM, 4th and 5 said:

hunted with a A5 sweet 16 that jams

I have a 12 and a 20.  It is tough to find ammo that the 12 will cycle without jams.  20 is a little more forgiving.  

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Got down to mex this past weekend. Fri weather was great. Sat heat rolled in and was brutal. Feeders and cameras out. Ranch is really green. Some roads were still muddy. Tanks full of water. Had a few camp deer checking us out while cooking. Cant wait for the season to kick off

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1 hour ago, CleverNickname said:

 

the blind looks like it was built like a brick shithouse. 

 

41 minutes ago, T’Boo Ted Marshall said:

 

I thought it was a kiln for people.

 

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Out at our lease for the first time this season. Headed to a tank, no birds. Came back out towards the front - hay crew had cut, and kicked up 80 birds in the field. Got set up, and while it was late for them to come to food, still got a couple. And importantly...we have a great spot and plan for tomorrow.

And the sunset, probably due to wildfire smoke, was kickass.

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Out at our lease for the first time this season. Headed to a tank, no birds.

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Elroy?

& Yeah, that totally Burnt Orange setting sun was amazeballs.

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Started the day with a teal hunt. My place doesn't get many teal during early season but I had work to do here so decided to put in a hunt before getting things done. Ended up with the only teal that came in.
Then went to spreading seed and using the drag in the deer food plot. Moved the blind for a better shooting lanes and concealment. Hoping this rain this week is just enough to get things growing. d6a3c7a23f4ab21ef9589e96fc8626d6.jpgb1b03bf1c620fcf2b5c26ec83d4c1cbe.jpg720e9e6a8eb5822344a0d381ffd31c6d.jpg43c626204a30755c86a267a6eb9f4d45.jpge00b3b1963e8e071061d972bbb45a5e6.jpge24b8b74ca3e24890bbe10d93c1fe797.jpg095dbf732e8ce40ccf597c678994e11c.jpg

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Put a big dent in the dove population this weekend down in Uvalde / La Pryor area.   Finished up the weekend with a CA wildfire haze assisted sunset.  

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On 9/16/2020 at 3:39 PM, Jerry Callo said:

I have a 12 and a 20.  It is tough to find ammo that the 12 will cycle without jams.  20 is a little more forgiving.  

You need to do some research on setting and lubing the friction rings on an Auto-5 if you are having jams.  Is that 12 a Light Field or Magnum?  Magnums won't cycle light field loads unless you remove one set of friction rings and swap out the spring for a light spring.  Lube it up pretty good and then you can shoot clays or dove loads with it.

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8 hours ago, Both Tacos said:

Those Russian boars can be some nasty creatures.

The sows with little one's will tear you apart if they are threatened. I know this for fact. 

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38 minutes ago, davidg said:

You need to do some research on setting and lubing the friction rings on an Auto-5 if you are having jams.  Is that 12 a Light Field or Magnum?  Magnums won't cycle light field loads unless you remove one set of friction rings and swap out the spring for a light spring.  Lube it up pretty good and then you can shoot clays or dove loads with it.

It's a Light 12.  I've been through the friction rings and springs.  I've had 3 or 4 gunsmiths look at it.  It has a Cutt's Compensator installed on the end of the barrel and I think it actually affects the recoil and ejection.  I prefer the 20g for dove anyway.  I just purchased a couple pumps that are keeping occupied at this point - letting the A5s take a break.

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MeatEater Season 9, Ep 5. What are your thoughts? I wonder how many of you have been in this situation. What did you do? Not looking to blast people's decisions. Just curious.

In this episode, Steven is in Colorado hunting elk with muzzle loader. He stalks an elk, rushes a shot which is maybe a little too far for the gun, and the shot hits the elk but it runs off. He searches for the elk for that night and the next day. He sees blood, but very of it. Unsure if the elk will live or die, he makes the decision that his tag is filled, even thought he doesn't have the elk or know for sure that it's going to die. He goes into detail of how the thought of injuring game and not confirming the kill will haunt him. But he does add that if the elk dies, it will nourish the environment by feeding bears, birds and other animals. Still he feels guilty for the error and quits the hunt.

My thoughts, he hunts for a living, meaning he hunts a shitton and has many opportunities to fill his freezer with game. In addition, I don't think he "paid" out of pocket for the cost of the hunt (travel, lodging, feed, tag, etc). He has the luxury of taking the high road knowing that he'll have other opportunities to or maybe already had filled his freezer. Plus he's hunted elk in Colorado numerous times.

If you were from out of state and paid thousands for the opportunity to take a elk in Colorado and you shot an elk but couldn't find it, would you keep hunting? What if it's your first and maybe last elk trip to Colorado?

Just interested in the discussion around the ethics of hunting.

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Forgot to add that I don't hunt. By choice and by opportunity, probably the second reason dictating the first reason. But if this happened on my first and maybe only elk trip in Colorado, most likely I will continue hunting, provided that it's legal.

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27 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

MeatEater Season 9, Ep 5. What are your thoughts? I wonder how many of you have been in this situation. What did you do? Not looking to blast people's decisions. Just curious.

In this episode, Steven is in Colorado hunting elk with muzzle loader. He stalks an elk, rushes a shot which is maybe a little too far for the gun, and the shot hits the elk but it runs off. He searches for the elk for that night and the next day. He sees blood, but very of it. Unsure if the elk will live or die, he makes the decision that his tag is filled, even thought he doesn't have the elk or know for sure that it's going to die. He goes into detail of how the thought of injuring game and not confirming the kill will haunt him. But he does add that if the elk dies, it will nourish the environment by feeding bears, birds and other animals. Still he feels guilty for the error and quits the hunt.

My thoughts, he hunts for a living, meaning he hunts a shitton and has many opportunities to fill his freezer with game. In addition, I don't think he "paid" out of pocket for the cost of the hunt (travel, lodging, feed, tag, etc). He has the luxury of taking the high road knowing that he'll have other opportunities to or maybe already had filled his freezer. Plus he's hunted elk in Colorado numerous times.

If you were from out of state and paid thousands for the opportunity to take a elk in Colorado and you shot an elk but couldn't find it, would you keep hunting? What if it's your first and maybe last elk trip to Colorado?

Just interested in the discussion around the ethics of hunting.

I'm not coming off that mountain until I find that animal.  Period.  I'm tagging it upon discovery.  Geo-tagging the location with watch.  Salvaging what I can.  Taking the rack, and alerting the game warden of what happened (as often leaving an up-processed carcass is a big no-no.  

If I absolutely can't find the animal - I'm so sick and disgusted I'm done.  

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Let me also expound on the question from a conservation standpoint:  the tags are for the animals, not us. 

The US leads the world by a very significant margin in terms of effective game management.  The # of tags are determined by biologists who make the determination based upon a myriad of factors as to how to best protect the animals and habitat.  I would be so utterly disgusted with myself that I'd mope until time eternal.  That's my heart.  This is from my head - the conservation angle.  There are no better stewards for wild animals than hunters.  We have the obligation and responsibility to take this very seriously and understand the "WHY" behind limits and regulations.   

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11 hours ago, Both Tacos said:

Those Russian boars can be some nasty creatures.

Those John Deere's like you have in the pics above are very handy.

I use ours almost every day to mow, dig, and move things around.

And yes those boars are nasty.

The buzzards don't even touch them for several days.

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8 minutes ago, hookemATL said:

Looks like my balls the first time I tried to manscape. 

Ugly stinky fuckers.

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I'm not coming off that mountain until I find that animal.  Period.  I'm tagging it upon discovery.  Geo-tagging the location with watch.  Salvaging what I can.  Taking the rack, and alerting the game warden of what happened (as often leaving an up-processed carcass is a big no-no.  

If I absolutely can't find the animal - I'm so sick and disgusted I'm done.  

This. A few years ago, shot a nice 8-point...not realizing my scope had been jarred, so my heart shot hit him in the rear knee. He went down hard, thought he would stay down. Then he got up and ran off.

 

Heavy rainstorm hit. As it started to let up, I went tracking him (all tracks and blood washed away). So, I just worked the direction, and walked in a grid. 500 yards later, he gets up out of some brush and runs again...no shot. But I could see where he headed. Another 300 yards, tracked him till we got to rock, so no tracks. Kept the rifle at a low ready. 50 yards away, he gets up and runs again, gave me a shot (and yes, I compensated to the left), and I dropped him. I was going to track him till I either got him, or ran out of property without trespassing.

 

It was raining the whole time. By the time I was done, I was soaked to the skin, had water in my boots and mud up to my ears.

 

I hunt long and hard for downed birds, too.

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