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People can be on either side of the riot vs. protest debate, within a certain level of reasonable understanding. I can even understand (to a degree) the folks who are perfectly fine using pro-active force to clear streets because there have been days of riots and at some level the rubber meets the road. That isn't personally my belief, but I can see where others might believe that. Lots of governors and mayors have set bad curfew times, and haven't been perfectly clear in responsible ways to communicate to the protesters what is going to happen and when. Fine. But this shit yesterday is indefensible and beyond the pale, and people like Icono are just willful wrongheaded fascists reveling in shows of power and strength because they're sick people (his words, not mine). The protesters were peaceful. They were asked to move, despite it being nowhere near curfew, despite being peaceful, and when they didn't disperse they were gassed and peppered with concussion grenades. That's bullshit, it's a breach of the constitution. But what is really indefensible, and what even Icono and like minded folks can't gloss over, much less address with their "but but it was violent yesterday" prattling bullshit is that all of this was done so the President could could walk across the street for a photo op. And an insincere one at that. THE REASONS AND CHOICES THAT LED TO THIS EVENT MATTER. It wasn't dispersing a violent crowd. It wasn't to get to a trapped person in need of help. It was for a fucking picture. The motivation for the incident is 50x more heinous than the action itself, and the action is pretty fucking deplorable. I don't care what side of the political spectrum you tilt towards, the man gassed and forcibly removed demonstrators for a completely unnecessary photo op. That was his choice. He chose to do that to US citizens to sate whatever need he felt he had to walk across the street and take a picture at a church. He could have waited a day, and given more notice. He didn't even call the people at the church. If it was prayer he could have chosen a different venue. If it was some display, as president, there are thousands of other photo ops he could have constructed and executed on that didn't involve terrorizing his own citizens who are flexing their constitutional rights. So many other choices or opportunities, and he chose to attack his own citizens. That isn't leadership. And honestly, thats not what America needs. It needs common ground and respect and healing, and compromise, and that is the epitome of non compromise. That is brute force to get what you want. It's against everything that a democratic republic is supposed to be, and it just galvanizes folks on both sides into a negative collision course. This isn't how we should treat people, period, and the leader of our country providing an example of choosing to embrace violence as opposed to try and de-escalate is just keeping people in their own foxholes and helps fix nothing in this country. If two cars were blocking a street would you ram them with your car, because they're in your way, or would you find another route? If you rammed them, do you reasonably think you wouldn't be the one arrested? Would you treat your neighbor this way? I assume the answer is no, but if the answer is Yes, then I hope you never have a neighbor like you. We need to do better as people. We have to. And we need to look to ourselves to be the example because none of our political leaders are clearly setting one themselves. Just be nice to each other.67 points
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Yeah. Fuck you, you're a piece of shit. The president is OUR fucking employee. Our freedoms are the whole point of this fucking country, and having a leader in charge who tramples on it at his fucking whim to show strength, is literally the fucking opposite of what a democratic republic is supposed to be about. Him looking powerful is the mentality and acts of authoritarian dictatorships. It's china running tanks over their citizens, it's putin on a fucking horse bare chested. The point of his office is to protect our freedoms not HIM being able to look powerful. Fuck you, and fuck your backwards ass fascist view of life in the country and the value of human life in general. I wish you'd go back to mainlining meth and dicks because at least then the only person you were hurting was yourself and your ex wife. Ever since you adopted Jesus and Fascism your viewpoints have a much greater chance of hurting the other people in this country. My issue is all of it. My issue is his show of force, my issue is the motivation for his show of force, and my issue is what that says about his decision making and his value for US citizens and their constitutional and human rights. Things you wipe your fucking ass with, so I don't expect you to fucking understand. Meanwhile the irony of you wringing your fucking hands a few weeks ago about not being allowed to show up and go to church and your free right to assemble as a Christian is looking pretty fucking ironic right about now, not that you'd recognize the hypocrisy there. You were apoplectic about the restrictions being enacted then on your "freedoms" even though they were putting the lives of others at risk. I wonder how you'd have felt if a local constable had decided to break up a church gathering by tear gassing a congregation that was gathering against shelter in place orders. You'd have lost your fucking mind. But this? Yeah, doesn't even register to you because Freedom doesn't mean shit to you as a construct unless it's your personal preferences being stifled. The safety and lives of others so Trump can get a selfie though? Fuck those losers. /Icono.42 points
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"Well son, I was still recovering from this disease from a chinese bat and was finishing a documentary about a pedophile who may or may not have killed himself and also waiting to hear back from the unemployment office... actually son, I don't want to talk about 2020 anymore."27 points
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If you don't want to mix politics and sports, quit playing the national anthem before sporting events.25 points
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“This is an awful man, waving a book he hasn’t read, in front of a church he doesn’t attend, invoking laws he doesn’t understand, against fellow Americans he sees as enemies, wielding a military he dodged serving, to protect power he gained via accepting foreign interference, exploiting fear and anger he loves to stoke, after failing to address a pandemic he was warned about, and building it all on a bed of constant lies and childish inanity.” -- Robert Hendrickson, Rector at St. Philip’s Episcopal Church in Tucson, Arizona19 points
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Seth Rogan is being very careful with his opinion. Very subtle, but I think he is with the protesters:19 points
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First off: I have not seen or heard ANY reporting of orders to disburse, including from the church's volunteers who were also shot at while administering water to flush out tear gas from protesters eyes. It was not curfew yet, and the protesters were demonstrating peacefully. The federal and military police had no justifiable reason to attack and forcefully remove the protesters from public property and space. Full stop. Never mind the reason for pushing the protesters out before the curfew: the president wanted to walk out at exactly 7:01 PM, citizens rights be damned. It's a complete disregard for their right to peaceful protest and demonstration, and subjecting the rights of citizens to the whims of the executive. That is a simple recitation of the facts. You are willfully misrepresenting the facts and distorting the truth to justify your love of violence against groups you dislike. Hope you're not wearing a brown shirt today19 points
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From the Rector of St John's Church in Georgetown who was gassed as she was helping render aid to protesters. Gini Gerbasi is with Julia Joyce Domenick . 12 hrs · Friends, I am ok, but I am, frankly shaken. I was at St. John's, Lafayette Square most of the afternoon, with fellow clergy and laypeople - and clergy from some other denominations too. We were passing out water and snacks, and helping the patio area at St. John's, Lafayette square to be a place of respite and peace. All was well - with a few little tense moments - until about 6:15 or so. By then, I had connected with the Black Lives Matter medic team, which was headed by an EMT. Those people were AMAZING. They had been on the patio all day, and thankfully had not had to use much of the eyewash they had made. Around 6:15 or 6:30, the police started really pushing protestors off of H Street (the street between the church and Lafayette Park, and ultimately, the White House. They started using tear gas and folks were running at us for eyewashes or water or wet paper towels. At this point, Julia, one of our seminarians for next year (who is a trauma nurse) and I looked at each other in disbelief. I was coughing, her eyes were watering, and we were trying to help people as the police - in full riot gear - drove people toward us. Julia and her classmates left and I stayed with the BLM folks trying to help people. Suddenly, around 6:30, there was more tear gas, more concussion grenades, and I think I saw someone hit by a rubber bullet - he was grasping his stomach and there was a mark on his shirt. The police in their riot gear were literally walking onto the St. John's, Lafayette Square patio with these metal shields, pushing people off the patio and driving them back. People were running at us as the police advanced toward us from the other side of the patio. We had to try to pick up what we could. The BLM medic folks were obviously well practiced. They picked up boxes and ran. I was so stunned I only got a few water bottles and my spray bottle of eyewash. We were literally DRIVEN OFF of the St. John's, Lafayette Square patio with tear gas and concussion grenades and police in full riot gear. We were pushed back 20 feet, and then eventually - with SO MANY concussion grenades - back to K street. By the time I got back to my car, around 7, I was getting texts from people saying that Trump was outside of St. John's, Lafayette Square. I literally COULD NOT believe it. WE WERE DRIVEN OFF OF THE PATIO AT ST. JOHN'S - a place of peace and respite and medical care throughout the day - SO THAT MAN COULD HAVE A PHOTO OPPORTUNITY IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH!!! PEOPLE WERE HURT SO THAT HE COULD POSE IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH WITH A BIBLE! HE WOULD HAVE HAD TO STEP OVER THE MEDICAL SUPPLIES WE LEFT BEHIND BECAUSE WE WERE BEING TEAR GASSED!!!! I am deeply shaken. I did not see any protestors throw anything until the tear gas and concussion grenades started, and then it was mostly water bottles. I am shaken, not so much by the taste of tear gas and the bit of a cough I still have, but by the fact that that show of force was for a PHOTO OPPORTUNITY. The patio of St. John's, Lafayette square had been HOLY GROUND today. A place of respite and laughter and water and granola bars and fruit snacks. But that man turned it into a BATTLE GROUND first, and a cheap political stunt second. I am DEEPLY OFFENDED on behalf of every protestor, every Christian, the people of St. John's, Lafayette square, every decent person there, and the BLM medics who stayed with just a single box of supplies and a backpack, even when I got too scared and had to leave. I am ok. But I am now a force to be reckoned with.18 points
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Obama: passes the first criminal justice reform in modern history aimed at demilitarizing the police and reducing sentencing disparity by race. Trump: Rolls those reforms back and literally tells cops to rough people up. "But how can we know which side is responsible for police brutality?!?! We just have to accept that we can never know!"16 points
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To be clear, we live in a country where, in order to take a selfie, using a Bible as a prop, the regime used violent force not just to drive citizens from the public square, but TO DRIVE CLERGY OFF OF THEIR OWN CHURCH PROPERTY, SO THE REGIME LEADER COULD USE THE CHURCH AS A PROP: The rector of the church, driven from church property......for a fake selfie. Of a man who trod unwelcome onto church property, holding a sacred text as if it were a brand being promoted on Instragram, who didn't bother to say a single word of prayer or spiritual significance for anyone, much less the nation he purportedly leads. It is the new shittiest moment in regime history. I'm confident it will be eclipsed by another one within 48 hours.16 points
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Corona Virus watching the Riots.15 points
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A powerful painting created by our very own [mention=528]Thujone[/mention]14 points
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Yes, right-wing America's tolerance of a black man kneeling on a football field tells us exactly how willing they are to compromise. Shut the fuck up, EMAW.14 points
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Negged for strawman arguing during a serious disruption of the republic. Conflating a massive general demonstration with accompanying looting has been a consistent tactic of those on the wrong side of this issue. On the simplest level, nodding in satisfaction as you get a chance to avoid the main issue is a form intellectual dishonesty. We're not choosing between whatever you think Antifa is and white supremacists. Only a scoundrel would boil down the issue to that. Do you mean to do so? If so, abandon your bogey man and open your eyes. Further, I would not say all looting, particularly at the beginning, was mere opportunism. It flowed from righteous anger ignited in people who have been told over and over again that even their lives are not valued. You gonna take my life? I'm gonna take this merchandise. (Interestingly, after the LA riots and looting, a lot of things were returned.) These organized assaults on businesses are criminal. I'll presume to take up Brisket's point about the police and much of government creating a state of lawlessness by themselves breaking the law in the most extreme of ways: public summary punishment that amounts to execution of a suspect by the police in broad daylight. Where is the law? Where is protection under the law? Hello, chaos. Hello faux pearl clutchers exclaiming, "Oh my, there's looting! Such thuggery! Those people were just waiting for their chance to steal!" Then let's break out the AKs and kill some more of those people. Stop villainizing the victims.14 points
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I agree with you more than I don't, for sure. Your communication style is just histrionic and obnoxious, is all. Be an adult and have conversations with other adults instead of flailing about like you are 17 all the time. It's really distracting in all these threads where real discussion is needed and is happening, in my opinion, hence the eye roll.13 points
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He looks weak because he is weak. Trump has no respect for the office he holds, so why should you respect the officeholder? If he had done something productive, that served any interest other than his own in front of St. John's church, this might be justifiable. He didn't address the nation, he took a fucking selfie.13 points
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There's a place I will stop into on the way to deer lease and pick up some inexpensive jewelry bedazzlements, baubles and beads for my bride if I feel like I need to brighten her day when I get back to Houston. Call it a bribe or paying my penance. It works. Sometimes. So, back during deer season, I stop and pick up a necklace I think she might like to add to her bountiful collection. When I get home, I stride in and proudly present it to her. She doesn't like it and says "oh, I'd rather have a bracelet." No good deed goes unpunished. The next weekend I'm passing through again on way back to the deer lease and stop in to trade the necklace for a bracelet she saw on their web-site. I get the bracelet, go shoot Bambi, get home and present the bracelet. It doesn't fit; too big. I take the bracelet that is too big back to trade it in the very next weekend on the way to shoot more Bambis and they don't have a smaller-sized bracelet because it is a one-size-fits-all proposition. Store credit only. No bracelet for baby doll. End of story you think? Oh, no, my friend. The next weekend I go back to kill even more Bambis and I get a text. "Can you get the bracelet again? My mom wants one." So I get the same danged bracelet again but I ship it to MIL in NC per instructions. Two weeks later the bracelet comes in mail from MIL in NC to Houston....it doesn't fit, too big. Now CV-19 hits and the little shop where I buy this junk is closed up tight as a tick. I'm still going back to deer lease just to hang around and kill Jim Beam because deer season is over. So, I'm stuck with the bracelet until the joint opens back up after Gov. Hotwheels gives the all clear. Finally, Gov. Hotwheels signs off on the all skate order and the place opens back up so I can take the cotton picking bracelet back. Just this past Friday I'm on the way to the deer lease to do some shredding, mowing and kill Evan Williams and I stop to return the dang MIL version of the bracelet for store credit. Done? Nope. I'm sitting in my office this morning and she calls and asks if I'm going back to deer lease again this weekend. Of course, I am; I've got to kill George Dickel. Now it seems her younger sister wants that bracelet and can I stop and pick it up for her. Holy moley. Wow.13 points
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He looked like an ape who had found a shiny object holding that bible. He was simultaneously intrigued and bewildered by this object. What mysteries does it hold? But his mind was too feeble to dig any deeper.11 points
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Sack absolutely destroys the bishop. "I wouldn't bang her; she looks like a dude." "She supported a Dem against Ted Cruz." The capper: "I don't think she supports Trump!" You've become Donald Trump: Dismissive (afraid) of women & seeing the world totally in terms of partisan loyalty. It's also telling that you think a moment in our history where there is righteous public, massive unrest; woefully unchecked plague (I know, I know, anything under 2m dead is a yuge success); and a collapsed economy to race in and wave your Trump flag. Great job. Your loyalty will be noted in the bunker where your name will be at the top of the Patriot List given to President Trump as his staff prepares the proscription lists. Fear not, American Patriot! Socialism will never soil our women folk, nor shall the bootstrap-phobic poor escape the yoke! I'm actually saddened that I can no longer avoid finding support for Trump despicable, but the issue has gone way beyond simple disagreement.11 points
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Looks like the defender may have launched and led with the crown of his skull. Suspended for the rest of the riot and the first half of the next riot.10 points
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Awful horrible bad shit is happening in the USA right now, if you are afraid of your fucking feelings getting hurt this isn't the website for you.10 points
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Until 2016, I was a lifelong Republican. In 2016, I couldn’t vote for either Trump or Clinton and so I threw away my vote on Gary Johnson. All of my concerns about a Trump Presidency have been realized and I’ve been extremely embarrassed by the Senate Republicans who enable his madness. In 2018, I voted for Beto and Lizzie Fletcher in Houston but stuck with several other Republicans (Abbott and Judge Emmett). After the mishandling of Covid-19 and the protests, I will simplify my vote and vote straight D. I’ve also decided I want to see the D’s in charge of the Federal Gov’t for the next several years. In that regard, I am going to throw dollars at promising D Senate candidates. As of now, I have Kelly, Hickenlooper, Gideon, Jones, Cunningham on my list. Who else should be on the list (Bollier from Kansas)? I will also donate to Hegar or West depending on who wins the primary. I guess I’m a George Will Republican. They need to be punished for abandoning their responsibility to the Republic.9 points
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Cloak tards got tired of sucking each other off in their echo chamber so they came over here. Fuck them.9 points
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Trump is far worse than W as head of government. He is probably setting an unbreakable record. There will never be a worse President than him even though there will eventually be a President who presides over our dissolution. Whoever that President may be, he/she will be better than Trump. In Idiocracy, Camacho rolled out the red carpet for the smartest man in the world. Trump would have had him killed.9 points
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There was a black dude on a horse in Minneapolis and I laughed when I heard a black girl from the crowd yell "you go, Django!"9 points
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Immigrant + small business owners... decades of hard work, learning a new culture, trying to make a better life for your family in a foreign country. Respect the hell out of them.9 points
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His wanton and blatant abuse of the office has lost him any right of respect. He uses it to stroke his own ego, nothing more, nothing less. He's incapable of anything else. No decision is considered as to how it might benefit the people, only how it might benefit himself and his reelection. He views division as a weapon to be used to froth up his base. He is the single most destructive force in this nation right now, and it is not even close.8 points
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Nothing is early in this election. People have made up their minds. Trump has consistently been losing to Biden in head to heads for 18 months. Never Trumpers and Dems are voting for Biden. Trumpkins and most life long GOPers are voting for Trump. If there is an "undecided" group of voters, the majority will not end up voting for Trump IMO. COVID and the current protesting didn't have to be bad optics for Dotard. He actually could have gained more voters and favorability just by being the most basic level of competent and compassionate during these difficult times. He chose to be combative and cruel instead. He's done. Let's do our part to make it a blowout.8 points
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Yep. The premise that any American news network is presenting the news without first applying a heavy slant one way or the other is ludicrous at best.8 points
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