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On 7/9/2025 at 12:44 PM, The Original Greaser Bob said:

I had no idea Brisket looked Jewish.

Not that there is anything wrong with looking Jewish.

Like a Jewish Al Gore.

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On 7/8/2025 at 1:38 PM, Pancho said:

Sounds like Talarico is going on Rogan 

Good for him. I was worried he was going to try to a jump to a higher office too soon, but with the attention he got this session I think it's time for him to take a shot. I just don't know where. Would be fun to watch him scold Danny Goeb like a school teacher with scripture and a preacher's cadence, but I don't know if that might be biting off too much. Is Lloyd Doggett planning to die in office? He's 78, would be 80 at his next swearing in. 

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I'm worried Talarico is not mean enough. Good orators aren't gonna get the job done.

Correct. He appeals to people with intelligence and human decency.
In other words, the most irrelevant constituency of the current era. He might as well appeal to left-handed Slovenian pearl merchants.
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I'm about 20 minutes into the Rogan/Talarico interview.  Impossible not to like Talarico.

Question:  I'm also about 20 minutes into the first Rogan interview I've ever listened to, and I have to admit that while he doesn't commit any cardinal errors, I'm pretty much surprised by  his interviewing technique.  I was expecting something in between a Marc Maron let's be buddies and a Peter Attia I'm smarter than you approach.   He's kind of sounds like a UNT radio and television communications intern.

What is the superpower that got him to having the biggest podcast that anyone's every heard of?

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1 hour ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

I'm about 20 minutes into the Rogan/Talarico interview.  Impossible not to like Talarico.

Question:  I'm also about 20 minutes into the first Rogan interview I've ever listened to, and I have to admit that while he doesn't commit any cardinal errors, I'm pretty much surprised by  his interviewing technique.  I was expecting something in between a Marc Maron let's be buddies and a Peter Attia I'm smarter than you approach.   He's kind of sounds like a UNT radio and television communications intern.

What is the superpower that got him to having the biggest podcast that anyone's every heard of?

His podcast was a combination of mma discussion, comedians, and interesting experts interspersed with absurd conspiracy theorists. It was at times pretty entertaining. 

His opinions on pretty much everything except weed and standup comedy seem to be extremely malleable. He takes on the opinions of his guests. Early in the 2016 Dem primary he was an Andrew yang supporter and then Bernie. How he went from that to endorsing Trump is pretty crazy.

Something related that I’ve spent some time thinking about is: how did the young male YouTube space become so right leaning in the run up to the 2024 election. 

I saw so many previously apolitical channels, across a wide spectrum, start espousing right wing talking points. And I found myself wondering what caused that shift and how much did it influence the election. Were they captured by the right wing propaganda machine? Did they sense that was what their audience wanted to hear? Was it a collective group think? Did it stem from a collective rejection of Covid policies they saw as government control? Were they all already right leaning and now just talking about it because it was an election cycle? Was it just YouTube’s algorithm feeding me right leaning political content?

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16 minutes ago, heso said:

His podcast was a combination of mma discussion, comedians, and interesting experts interspersed with absurd conspiracy theorists. It was at times pretty entertaining. 

His opinions on pretty much everything except weed and standup comedy seem to be extremely malleable. He takes on the opinions of his guests. Early in the 2016 Dem primary he was an Andrew yang supporter and then Bernie. How he went from that to endorsing Trump is pretty crazy.

Something related that I’ve spent some time thinking about is: how did the young male YouTube space become so right leaning in the run up to the 2024 election. 

I saw so many previously apolitical channels, across a wide spectrum, start espousing right wing talking points. And I found myself wondering what caused that shift and how much did it influence the election. Were they captured by the right wing propaganda machine? Did they sense that was what their audience wanted to hear? Was it a collective group think? Did it stem from a collective rejection of Covid policies they saw as government control? Were they all already right leaning and now just talking about it because it was an election cycle? Was it just YouTube’s algorithm feeding me right leaning political content?

 

Those are all interesting questions, and I think you're right to consider them. Also, remember that a lot of those folks on YouTube are basically whores for attention and only making fractions of a penny per view, so for most, it's probably not a super lucrative gig. One thing we do know, for sure, is that the Kremlin paid some influencers.

Now, I'm not saying that Russia paid others, but we kind of have to assume that it's not out of the question. Nor is it unthinkable that other countries or organizations (PACs, rich fuckers...dark money in general) might have been doing the same thing, and, in general, we know conservatives have been targeting ALL of social media since the 2016 election, at least (Cambridge Analytica's Facebook stuff).

I guess what I'm saying is that the seemingly organic turn toward the dark side by young influencers might not have so organic after all. Or, on the other hand, maybe they all went crazy during Covid. Tough to say.

 

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1 hour ago, bolverk said:

 

Those are all interesting questions, and I think you're right to consider them. Also, remember that a lot of those folks on YouTube are basically whores for attention and only making fractions of a penny per view, so for most, it's probably not a super lucrative gig. One thing we do know, for sure, is that the Kremlin paid some influencers.

Now, I'm not saying that Russia paid others, but we kind of have to assume that it's not out of the question. Nor is it unthinkable that other countries or organizations (PACs, rich fuckers...dark money in general) might have been doing the same thing, and, in general, we know conservatives have been targeting ALL of social media since the 2016 election, at least (Cambridge Analytica's Facebook stuff).

I guess what I'm saying is that the seemingly organic turn toward the dark side by young influencers might not have so organic after all. Or, on the other hand, maybe they all went crazy during Covid. Tough to say.

 


I meant to add “were they bought by the right wing and/or right wing friendly propagandists?” and then forgot it. 

I expect it’s probably a combination of all of them. 

It was really bizarre. It started out as one that stuck out as “oh, I didn’t see him as having those views”. And then it kept happening to a point that there was obviously some level of coordination, be it algorithmic or on the content generation. 

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4 hours ago, bolverk said:

Or, on the other hand, maybe they all went crazy during Covid. Tough to say.

I really think this is being discounted. I blame the overall breakdown of humanity and the understanding that we have set up a society that relies upon the cooperation of individuals and communities. I legitimately think this is where people fail. Selfishness. And I am not immune, but I think Trump supporters, especially young ones, are completely broken in this sense. They have never learned that we do better as a species when we work together. It has always been 1x1 for them. 
 

So when Covid occurred and they were asked to just hang out for a few months so we could take care of the greater good?  Ho boy, that brought out the insanity. 

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51 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Ho boy, that brought out the insanity

To your point, we’ve witnessed a 50 year run of culture and technology progress one might describe as “anti-social”.

I like the blame social media for a lot of today’s problems, but the patient was already on life support. 

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Thanks for the insight on Rogan.  At 20 minutes, he hadn't even woken up, but at the half hour mark he started engaging, and I see the appeal of the long form interview.   

Ultimately, Rogan was agreeable, but he threw out some really broad and silly generalizations.  I think Talarico may be too good and kind of this political world.  I was a bit disappointed that he didn't push back on a few issues.  He just seemed to accept Rogan's statements that cancel culture should be blamed exclusively on the left and that the Dems are anti-patriotism and anti-male.  But maybe that's just Rogan being engaging and Talarico trying to set an example so more left-wing folks go on the show.  To that extent, Talarico was fantastic.

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51 minutes ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

 I was a bit disappointed that he didn't push back on a few issues.  He just seemed to accept Rogan's statements that cancel culture should be blamed exclusively on the left and that the Dems are anti-patriotism and anti-male.  But maybe that's just Rogan being engaging and Talarico trying to set an example so more left-wing folks go on the show.  To that extent, Talarico was fantastic.

That's just being a democrat in today's media culture. I stg none barring Jasmine Crockett and a couple of others push back on the bullshit and I don't understand why not. 

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36 minutes ago, safe sex said:

That's just being a democrat in today's media culture. I stg none barring Jasmine Crockett and a couple of others push back on the bullshit and I don't understand why not. 

He really did seem to have lots of leeway to say "I gotta push back on your there buddy".  

No candidate is perfect, but Talarico's Christianity - which is the kind of Christianity that seems antithetical to MAGA -- is going to frustrate Dems.  

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1 minute ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

He really did seem to have lots of leeway to say "I gotta push back on your there buddy".  

No candidate is perfect, but Talarico's Christianity - which is the kind of Christianity that seems antithetical to MAGA -- is going to frustrate Dems.  

Why would it frustrate Dems?

He's a gateway type between the churchy true believers and the ballot box. So many centrist both-sider types(like my in-laws who probably are too chickenshit to confess to me that they voted for Trump) need someone like Talarico to show them they can vote Democrat without having a crisis of identity over it. 

I'm an atheist but I have no qualms with elected officials being religious as long as they keep their religion separate from the job of governing and don't use religion as a basis for attacking human rights or undermining the role of government in bettering our lives. Talarico's message is inclusionary and that is essential.

I am fine with him playing that role while other leftist messengers bring the fiery heat against the fascist Republicans.

 

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Why would it frustrate Dems?
He's a gateway type between the churchy true believers and the ballot box. So many centrist both-sider types(like my in-laws who probably are too chickenshit to confess to me that they voted for Trump) need someone like Talarico to show them they can vote Democrat without having a crisis of identity over it. 
I'm an atheist but I have no qualms with elected officials being religious as long as they keep their religion separate from the job of governing and don't use religion as a basis for attacking human rights or undermining the role of government in bettering our lives. Talarico's message is inclusionary and that is essential.
I am fine with him playing that role while other leftist messengers bring the fiery heat against the fascist Republicans.
 

Your in-laws are shitheels who are beyond redemption and would vote for Satan himself because there’s a rumor of a trans kid playing middle school volleyball in Oregon. Stop imagining things are any other way.
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1 hour ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

Thanks for the insight on Rogan.  At 20 minutes, he hadn't even woken up, but at the half hour mark he started engaging, and I see the appeal of the long form interview.   

Ultimately, Rogan was agreeable, but he threw out some really broad and silly generalizations.  I think Talarico may be too good and kind of this political world.  I was a bit disappointed that he didn't push back on a few issues.  He just seemed to accept Rogan's statements that cancel culture should be blamed exclusively on the left and that the Dems are anti-patriotism and anti-male.  But maybe that's just Rogan being engaging and Talarico trying to set an example so more left-wing folks go on the show.  To that extent, Talarico was fantastic.

I haven’t seen it but if he is letting falsehoods slide that is unacceptable. I have started politely but firmly saying no when my patients bring up lies at their visits. I don’t argue I just say things like that is objectively false. If you would like me to explain why I’m happy to. If not let’s move on to something else. Started doing it during Covid when patients would say it’s a hoax. I would say let’s over to the hospital and I’ll give you a tour. No takers

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27 minutes ago, The Original Greaser Bob said:

He really did seem to have lots of leeway to say "I gotta push back on your there buddy".  

No candidate is perfect, but Talarico's Christianity - which is the kind of Christianity that seems antithetical to MAGA -- is going to frustrate Dems.  

He needs to know when to be like the Jesus that whipped the money changers out of the Temple

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I like James… hope he gets even more comfortable communicating on various media platforms. 

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