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1 hour ago, berlinerbaer said:

Medicare for You

America First Healthcare 

 

“Healthcare AF”

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49 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

They were also shocked that the group was unanimous that the Democratic party had allowed housing and healthcare costs to destroy their prospects of attaining the American dream. 

Well this is fairly shocking to me too. 

37 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

My friend.  Follow me over to the football board.....

Yeah I tried that last weekend. No thanks. 

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7 minutes ago, kevwun said:

I don't think Fetterman was a pretend Democrat like Sinema.  The stroke clearly changed his brain chemistry.  He's not the same person he was before it.

He was way more pro-Israel than your average Dem even before the stroke. Better than Dr. Oz and superficially more progressive than Conor Lamb. It sucks what happened, but there's no doubt he was the best available option at the time especially when it came to confirming Biden judges

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Posted
52 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

America First Healthcare 

 

“Healthcare AF”

If you think something like that isn't being cooked up, you haven't been paying attention.

First, it will exist entirely outside of the government.  No Congressional action, anything like that.

INSTEAD, it will be a creation entirely of "the Trump organization," because they really, really care about Americans.  And it will work GREAT.

At delivering dollars from the pockets of poor/working class Americans into the pockets of the Trump family.  At delivering actual healthcare?  Yeah.....not so much.

The American people exist for one reason: to gratify and enrich Donald Trump.  That's it.  That's the sum total of purpose for our entire nation.  We will get policy "solutions" that are consistent with that purpose.

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5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

If you think something like that isn't being cooked up, you haven't been paying attention.

First, it will exist entirely outside of the government.  No Congressional action, anything like that.

INSTEAD, it will be a creation entirely of "the Trump organization," because they really, really care about Americans.  And it will work GREAT.

At delivering dollars from the pockets of poor/working class Americans into the pockets of the Trump family.  At delivering actual healthcare?  Yeah.....not so much.

The American people exist for one reason: to gratify and enrich Donald Trump.  That's it.  That's the sum total of purpose for our entire nation.  We will get policy "solutions" that are consistent with that purpose.

Already stockpiling ivermectin and working on branded hydration packets and a home tallow rendering / birthing kit

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

Anyone involved in Democratic politics who is shocked that young people are worried about the cost of living should be thrown into a fucking volcano. That's not some obscure ideological issue that the kids these days are fixated on. 

Well, these were Democrat political professionals. What were you expecting?

1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

Except it wasn’t 

It was, but the nice thing about reality is that you can think whatever you want and it will still be true.

1 hour ago, G650 said:

 

I really want to know what fucking planet these people live on that they were shocked by any of this. I mean, I know it's true, I just can't conceive of how it's possible they have insulated themselves that completely. 

Frontline Narrator: But they had insulated themselves that completely.

The follow up from the prospective candidate was predictably inane: “so what’s the answer, guys? Do you think capitalism has let you down?”

1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

America First Healthcare 

 

“Healthcare AF”

Honestly not bad.

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Posted
20 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

It was, but the nice thing about reality is that you can think whatever you want and it will still be true

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Conclusion

 

While support for change in healthcare policy rose between 2000 and 2009, most Americans’ opinions likely crystallized prior to 2009. Since 2009, the public’s level of support for government provision of healthcare rarely crested the 50 percent mark, usually hovering in the 40 percent range. 

Pleasantly surprised pubmed is still up

 

I mean the name alone didn’t kill it but I don’t think it helped. Respectfully. 

Posted (edited)
21 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Pleasantly surprised pubmed is still up

 

I mean the name alone didn’t kill it but I don’t think it helped. Respectfully. 

The name was the best part. It was an instant hit and almost sunk Clinton in 2016, and a lot of otherwise apolitical working class people who wound up voting for Trump wanted it. 
anyway- a large majorities of independents and Democrats want  everyone to have coverage, want their coverage to cost them less, and understand that the government will be involved.  That’s all most people hear when they hear the words Medicare for All. 
 

 Democrats, being morons, took that fact and decided to get wound around the axle about precisely what policy that meant annd fight amongst themselves  instead of focusing on outcomes during campaigns. That’s a recipe for lost support. 
 

Incidentally that’s why I think Elizabeth Warren is so toxic - all her wonky, complicated “I’ve got a plan for that” specificity is the shit that kills democrats, not great brands like Medicare for All.

 

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7 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

The name was the best part. It was an instant hit and almost sunk Clinton in 2016, and a lot of otherwise apolitical working class people who wound up voting for Trump wanted it. 
anyway- a large majorities of independents and Democrats want  everyone to have coverage, want their coverage to cost them less, and understand that the government will be involved.  That’s all most people hear when they hear the words Medicare for All. 
 

 Democrats, being morons, took that fact and decided to get wound around the axle about precisely what policy that meant annd fight amongst themselves  instead of focusing on outcomes during campaigns. That’s a recipe for lost support. 
 

Incidentally that’s why I think Elizabeth Warren is so toxic - all her wonky, complicated “I’ve got a plan for that” specificity is the shit that kills democrats, not great brands like Medicare for All.

 

What's funny is her plans were generally clearer and simpler and easier-sold than most other Dem candidates' plans generally are.  Compare her plans to 2020 Kamala's tax credit for opening a small business in a disadvantaged community or whatever that one was. It's just that Warren was the optimized version of that shit and it still didn't sell to anyone but nerdy libs. Maybe a billionaire businessman Dem could steal her plans and people would buy them better, but that'd be because of the billionaire businessman thing, not the detailed plans. 

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3 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

What's funny is her plans were generally clearer and simpler and easier-sold than most other Dem candidates' plans generally are.  Compare her plans to 2020 Kamala's tax credit for opening a small business in a disadvantaged community or whatever that one was. It's just that Warren was the optimized version of that shit and it still didn't sell to anyone but nerdy libs. Maybe a billionaire businessman Dem could steal her plans and people would buy them better, but that'd be because of the billionaire businessman thing, not the detailed plans. 

Detailed plans are for nerdy libs.  

You need to speak fluent "simple and stupid."  Bonus for using words like "tremendous," and "amazing," and "the likes of which no one's ever seen."

You think I'm spouting bitter hyperbole and shit.  I'm not.  Promise people a path to free candy for life and shit, because that's what works.  "I will guarantee every American a job!"  That's what you promise when your actual policy plan is job training programs, tax incentives to businesses based on hiring, and any number of other wonky measures.  "When I'm president, you'll get paid thousands to open a business!"  Don't talk tax credits and ROI and shit.  Open a business?  You get money!

We live in the dumbest fucking time imaginable.  Embrace it or perish.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

We live in the dumbest fucking time imaginable.  Embrace it or perish.

Freeze the Rent

Make Buses Fast and Free

Deliver Universal Childcare

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