The US Capitol has been Breached [News]

[Captainant 27250]

Lulz twitter has finally had enough fucking around

 

 

[Guest Lobo]

18 minutes ago, Hate said:

The difference is that there is nobody arguing with your dumb ass.  There is nobody here that has condoned what happened today. 

I don't think anybody on Surly condoned what happened there today, but let's do the math...there have to be millions of Trump supporters who condoned what happened today.  For every one that stormed the Capitol, there had to be 10 or 100 folks at home seeing them as their surrogates.  Sorry, but just the way insurrections work.  You don't actually send everybody.  You send placeholders. 

[Guest Lobo]

Just now, Captainant said:

Lulz twitter has finally had enough fucking around

 

 

Jesus, do they realize what they've just done?  Tonight, when the rioting gets turned up to 11...people will call on him---AS THEY DID TODAY---to tweet to his supporters to stand down.  But he won't be able to, giving him perfect coverage for what they do next.  Good Lord, it's impossible y'all are this stupid.

[Michael Knight 12852]

21 minutes ago, Hate said:

The difference is that there is nobody arguing with your dumb ass.  There is nobody here that has condoned what happened today. 

There are plenty who enabled it.

[Captainant 27250]

Just now, Lobo said:

Jesus, do they realize what they've just done?  Tonight, when the rioting gets turned up to 11...people will call on him---AS THEY DID TODAY---to tweet to his supporters to stand down.  But he won't be able to, giving him perfect coverage for what they do next.  Good Lord, it's impossible y'all are this stupid.

It's not like POTUS has an entire news apparatus and capacity to schedule a speech to be broadcast at pretty much anytime, or anything. 

Fuck twitter, the terrorists all moved to parler anyways

[Michael Knight 12852]

5 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Jesus, do they realize what they've just done?  Tonight, when the rioting gets turned up to 11...people will call on him---AS THEY DID TODAY---to tweet to his supporters to stand down.  But he won't be able to, giving him perfect coverage for what they do next.  Good Lord, it's impossible y'all are this stupid.

maybe he could tweet from the official potus account. they did it because instead of telling them to stand down hes inciting them

Edited January 7, 2021 by Michael Knight

[Hate 20095]

6 minutes ago, Lobo said:

I don't think anybody on Surly condoned what happened there today, but let's do the math...there have to be millions of Trump supporters who condoned what happened today.  For every one that stormed the Capitol, there had to be 10 or 100 folks at home seeing them as their surrogates.  Sorry, but just the way insurrections work.  You don't actually send everybody.  You send placeholders. 

Right, but captaintaint was asking about white Trump supporters here on Surly. 

[Guest Lobo]

Just now, Michael Knight said:

maybe he could tweet from offical potus account. they did it because instead of telling them to stand down hes inciting them

I know he's inciting them.  But there were multiple calls from sitting GOP Reps, Senators, former Presidents, and a host of media personalities telling him to tweet to them to stand down.  If he no longer has that ability tonight, that's plausible deniability to let them run amok.  People will demand leadership from him tomorrow but he'll have easy coverage, "I was shut out of Twitter, so I couldn't tell them to stop their midnight mayhem."  Twitter just gave him the easiest out in history.  It's not like they're all bringing TV's with CNN out with them to Riots Part II.  

[Captainant 27250]

Just now, Hate said:

Right, but captaintaint was asking about white Trump supporters here on Surly. 

I didn't say here on surly, I was reflecting on how the police seem to have remembered their use of force training now that their opposition is white trump supporters. Y'all were very excited to see curfew call during the BLM riots, just disappointed that force has not been used uniformly and to the standard set (and thoroughly documented) in June.

I wonder what the difference is for the police this time. 

[Wally Fairway 5507]

Elect a clown
get a circus
don't act surprised 

[clapclapclap 9000]

8 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

There are plenty who enabled it.

 

[atomheartbevo 89304]

Hope this is one of the few who were arrested.  That's a seriously ballsy and batshit crazy move to bring zipties.

[Hate 20095]

40 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Remarkable how all of these WHITE TRUMP rioters haven't faced a lick of repercussions for violating the curfew after trespassing a federal property. Most of the folks who've been negging me in this thread were VERY enthusiastic about boots on black necks during the BLM protests and riots. It's surprising to see them cool so much on property damage after assaulting the Capitol, last time we were clocking a few pages an hour. 

.... I wonder what's different this time.... 

 

2 minutes ago, Captainant said:

I didn't say here on surly, I was reflecting on how the police seem to have remembered their use of force training now that their opposition is white trump supporters. Y'all were very excited to see curfew call during the BLM riots, just disappointed that force has not been used uniformly and to the standard set (and thoroughly documented) in June.

I wonder what the difference is for the police this time. 

So were the police clocking a few pages per hour on Surly during the riots this summer? 

[Guest Lobo]

1 minute ago, clapclapclap said:

 

"Tacit support of stupid leads to more stupid."

-Fr. Michael Judge, O.P.  

[clapclapclap 9000]

Senators now being escorted from their secure area, presumably heading back to work.

[hornbri 1348]

13 minutes ago, Captainant said:

I didn't say here on surly, I was reflecting on how the police seem to have remembered their use of force training now that their opposition is white trump supporters. Y'all were very excited to see curfew call during the BLM riots, just disappointed that force has not been used uniformly and to the standard set (and thoroughly documented) in June.

I wonder what the difference is for the police this time. 

Bullshit

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 Most of the folks who've been negging me in this thread were VERY enthusiastic about boots on black necks during the BLM protests and riots. It's surprising to see them cool so much on property damage after assaulting the Capitol, last time we were clocking a few pages an hour. "

 

[atomheartbevo 89304]

If you want to know what the rioters are thinking, they are happy to tell you.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CJt7vI9H2RH/?igshid=llyjq428q9pn

 

[DDD Dad 14144]

Tragedy is reserved for heroes?  If my mother was shot today I assure you it would be a tragedy. That our capitol building was stormed, regardless of the reason or persons is tragic.  That a bystander was shot by insurrectionists is tragic.   C'mon man.

Not a student of the classics, apparently.

[Guest Lobo]

Just in time for the second wave.  Let's fucking do this 'Murica!  

So after the vote, after people are even more riled up, after this certification is all made official, after Trump can't tweet for his supporters to stand down 'cause he's blocked, the grand strategy is to have the Senators and Congressmen file out of the Capitol under cover of darkness, one-by-one, with skeletal security to make their way back to their D.C. residences which the locations are now known to the rioting terrorists from earlier today?  And we now know the security apparatus is stretched beyond thin, we already saw it today.  So it's maybe 1 national guardsmen or DC Metro cop for every 2 Congressman?  Oh yeah, this is a can't miss strategy.  Why don't you have them come out of the capitol in alphabetical order while you're at it with a map of where they're headed?  

Where do they think is going?  It wasn't about selfies on the Senate floor.  There's a bigger game afoot.  

[Hanrahan 1306]

I don't think anybody on Surly condoned what happened there today, but let's do the math...there have to be millions of Trump supporters who condoned what happened today.  For every one that stormed the Capitol, there had to be 10 or 100 folks at home seeing them as their surrogates.  Sorry, but just the way insurrections work.  You don't actually send everybody.  You send placeholders. 

Lol wut??? When you make your move in a coup you go hard to the paint. Because there’s a response coming if you don’t score some points. Placeholders? Jesus.

[Captainant 27250]

8 minutes ago, hornbri said:

Bullshit

 

Reading comprehension, how does it work??

Police behavior against white trump rioters is significantly less violent than against BLM rioters. 

During the BLM riots, the denizens of DT gleefully reposted andy ngo and jack proboscis posts of BLM folks getting brutalized for trespassing and damaging property and violating curfew

Similar factors minus race, wildly different police behavior, and notably muted response here. 

I'm not singling out white trump supporters here, I'm singling out people who don't give the same level of give-a-fuck when it's people who talk like them

Edited January 7, 2021 by Captainant

[Newdoc 3429]

This thread has gone exactly as expected. Y’all get points for consistency.

[ztejas 43189]

8 minutes ago, Newdoc said:

This thread has gone exactly as expected. Y’all get points for consistency.

"The rules don't apply to me because I'm right"

[hornbri 1348]

14 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Reading comprehension, how does it work??

You called out that the posters on this thread for negging you and then said you were "surprised to see them cool so much on property damage after assaulting the Capitol, last time we were clocking a few pages an hour." There is no way you meant the police were "clocking a few pages a hour". 

If you want the Trumpeters to own their own words you need to own your words as well. 

[Captainant 27250]

All but confirmed the Qanon and red hat insurrectionists got preferential treatment from the police. 

 

[ztejas 43189]

45 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

 

There are a lot of differences. The BLM shit had more merit to it. It was met with greater resistance for whatever reason - on both sides. I don't know the count of dead protestors AND COPS from BLM but it was a fuckton higher than just what happened today. Same goes for property damage. Some people condoned what happened then just as some people are condoning what is happening today (although I'm seeing less people excited about today's events - again, due to their merit). The same "they had it coming to them" comments are being made when people are injured or injury is wished upon them. 

This tweet points something funny out about human nature - that we are implicitly biased and can't treat situations objectively when it comes to politics - especially on the extreme ends. Even "moderates" or never Trumpers have their own set of biases. 

You really want to place blame here? Place it at the feet of the insane environment for information and discourse that has resulted from unchecked social media use and a poor understanding of what that stuff does to us. Zuckerberg and Dorsey are not your saviors. They have captained and championed platforms that alter our minds and perspectives and create hate, insecurity, depression, anger and disinformation. Talk about "reaping what you sow". 

America could stand to put it's fucking phones down and treat each other decently. Our worst enemy is ourselves. Seriously. We are imploding from the inside. There is no Al Qaeda or Axis of Evil or homegrown Soviet conspiracy out to get us. The other side is not "out to get you". We are doing this to ourselves. Stuff like today's events is a symptom. It's not about being right it's about doing the right thing.

[washparkhorn 9931]

50 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

If you want to know what the rioters are thinking, they are happy to tell you.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CJt7vI9H2RH/?igshid=llyjq428q9pn

 

Trump supporter who was refused entry to the Capitol (mace and physically barred) says: "We are storming the Capitol. This is a revolution." 

[clapclapclap 9000]

Claimed leak from the White House HVAC office? (they have knowledge of the vents):

 

[bolverk 29261]

1 hour ago, clapclapclap said:

 

Today wasn't a reflection of BLM - it was a follow up to an even earlier act of "protest." I don't know who that twatter is, but he forgot (or is trying to deflect from) these same types of crazies stormed the Michigan capitol before the BLM protests following exhortations to OPEN MICHIGAN?

[Guest Lobo]

1 minute ago, clapclapclap said:

Claimed leak from the White House HVAC office? (they have knowledge of the vents):

 

T'Boo Ted Marshall just bought an HVAC company in Texas...coincidence?...I think not.  

Wasn't the D.C. HVAC office the subject of the Olympus Has Fallen/DieHard mashup where John McClane & Gerard Butler battle the Maga idiots' efforts to put non-EPA certified coolant in a duct that could ignite Trump's hair and makeup?  But in the end, they decide that Democracy is more important?  

[atomheartbevo 89304]

If you don't want to see a woman get shot, skip this.  It shows her trying to get into the Speaker's Lobby, which was a secured area, and Pence may have been in there, and people are saying it was Secret Service and not Capitol Police who shot, but there's a shit ton of law enforcement there so who knows.

About 40 seconds in or so, you can see her trying to get into the lobby.

Spoiler

 

 

Edited January 7, 2021 by atomheartbevo

[clapclapclap 9000]

 

[Guest Lobo]

Well, her family can take solace that there'll be an ice machine down the hall at Mar-a-Lago named after her.  In exchange for a $10,000 donation of course.  

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Lobo said:

I know he's inciting them.  But there were multiple calls from sitting GOP Reps, Senators, former Presidents, and a host of media personalities telling him to tweet to them to stand down.  If he no longer has that ability tonight, that's plausible deniability to let them run amok.  People will demand leadership from him tomorrow but he'll have easy coverage, "I was shut out of Twitter, so I couldn't tell them to stop their midnight mayhem."  Twitter just gave him the easiest out in history.  It's not like they're all bringing TV's with CNN out with them to Riots Part II.  

Trump is forbidden from making an announcement to news outlets?  

he doesn't need Twitter.  he could make a meaningful statement through the media.   He will not.

 

It is impossible for him, not because he is incapable, but that he is absolutely unwilling.  He is getting what he wants( but not another term)

Edited January 7, 2021 by slorch

[Guest Lobo]

1 minute ago, slorch said:

Trump is forbidden from making an announcement to news outlets?  

he doesn't need Twitter.  he could make a meaningful statement through the media.   He will not.

 

It is impossible for him.

Exactly.  If he couldn't be troubled earlier today to tweet something, he's sure as shit not gonna call together a press conference.  I mean, he gave that half-ass Rose Garden chat which went nowhere fast.  Twitter was the only viable way for him to realistically reach his crew tonight.  But that's gone now.  

Speaking of all that...where the fuck is Kayleigh tonight?  

[austingirl 2180]

10 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Exactly.  If he couldn't be troubled earlier today to tweet something, he's sure as shit not gonna call together a press conference.  I mean, he gave that half-ass Rose Garden chat which went nowhere fast.  Twitter was the only viable way for him to realistically reach his crew tonight.  But that's gone now.  

Speaking of all that...where the fuck is Kayleigh tonight?  

Earlier she was on Twitter saying Trump had authorized the National Guard. I believe the sec of defense has since confirmed that Pence authorized the Guard, not Trump. 

 

[bolverk 29261]

Photos from today's attack on the Capitol.

spoilering to avoid longcat

Spoiler

 

 

 

[Guest Lobo]

Mad Max 5 looks weird so far. 

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Photos from today's attack on the Capitol.

spoilering to avoid longcat

 

Wolverines? or landing at Normandy?

 

WTF are these morons thinking?

[washparkhorn 9931]

2 minutes ago, slorch said:

WTF are these morons thinking?

What makes anyone think aggy playing soldier is capable of rational thought? 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, washparkhorn said:

What makes anyone think aggy playing soldier is capable of rational thought? 

These guys make me want to believe aggy is not the lowest form of life.

 

Gotdam...

[clapclapclap 9000]

 

Now ABC:

and Fox:

 

Resignation and 25th talk may be to set up impeachment.  25th isn't as simple as some think.

Edited January 7, 2021 by clapclapclap

[Guest Lobo]

So your pitcher is down by 46 runs in the 9th inning?  He's the got bases loaded, is down to the current batter 3-0, he's thrown 237 pitches, appears mentally insane, and has also shouted multiple racial slurs at the myriad 'baserunners of color'.  And now the GOP bench coach is considering a mound visit?  How patriotic! 

[Incredulity 11440]

2 minutes ago, Lobo said:

So your pitcher is down by 46 runs in the 9th inning?  He's the got bases loaded, is down to the current batter 3-0, he's thrown 237 pitches, appears mentally insane, and has also shouted multiple racial slurs at the myriad 'baserunners of color'.  And now the GOP bench coach is considering a mound visit?  How patriotic! 

It’s quite amazing the will you have to be the color commentator of nearly every thread.

[drt 637]

Per current reports only 13 arrests so far. 

[Herbie Hancock 7296]

You say amazing I say annoyingly unhinged and moderately deranged. We can agree to disagree.

[Guest Lobo]

3 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

It’s quite amazing the will you have to be the color commentator of nearly every thread.

I'm active on three threads today, but you have the hyperbolic bitchiness of a post-menopausal woman or President, your choice.  I thought my analogy to baseball and the cuntiness of Trump was decent.  Not my best work.  You're still my favorite cunt on here in more ways than one though slugger!  

[MNLonghornFUKM 8795]

Wolverines? or landing at Normandy?
 
WTF are these morons thinking?

I’m sure the nazis would’ve been terrified seeing a guy in a kanye hat and cheetah vest scaling the bunkers

[Herbie Hancock 7296]

I’m sure the nazis would’ve been terrified seeing a guy in a kanye hat and cheetah vest scaling the bunkers

The nazis had pieces of flair they made the Jews wear

[immortal13 4059]

3 hours ago, Captainant said:

Lulz twitter has finally had enough fucking around

 

 

Yay censorship. Awesome