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Posted
8 hours ago, scottsins said:

Have we just totally glossed over the ban of all sales of THC vape products that went into effect? Delta-8, THC-A, hemp derived Delta-9, etc?

I knew nothing about it until yesterday.

Vaping is terrible for your lungs dude

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3 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

What is weird to me is that on the same day that vapes were banned, the Texas Compassionate Use Program actually had some limitations removed and allowed for a) more THC b) more reasons for approval like PTSD and anxiety and c) the use of Vapes and Vape products (versus just gummies and tinctures).

I wonder if the play is to try and get everyone to sign up and pay for it that way and they eventually allow flower through TCUP:

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For many Texans, vape products are a preferred method for using medical cannabis. You may have heard about new legislation—Senate Bill 2024—and wondered what this new law means for your access to the products you rely on.

This new legislation, which takes effect on September 1, 2025, primarily targets the broader hemp market and aims to crack down on certain e-cigarette and vape products in Texas. The good news for Texas Cannabis Clinic patients is that the law specifically does not affect devices and liquids used with prescription medical devices. Since your medical cannabis products are prescribed through the Texas Compassionate Use Program, you can rest assured that your access to these products remains protected.

The bill’s focus is on unregulated vape products containing a variety of substances, particularly those manufactured in or marketed as being from countries deemed “foreign adversaries.” It also bans products with designs or packaging that appeal to children, such as candy flavors or shapes that mimic non-vape items. Penalties for non-compliance have been increased to a Class A misdemeanor.

We want to make sure you have all the information you need to feel confident and secure in your treatment plan. If you have questions about your specific medication or treatment options, we encourage you to schedule a telehealth appointment with one of our doctors at Texas Cannabis Clinic.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)

Q: Does SB 2024 ban all vapes in Texas? A: No, the bill does not ban all vaping products. It specifically targets vape products that are not part of the medical program, are manufactured in or marketed from China, contain intoxicating substances other than nicotine, or have packaging that appeals to children.

Q: Does SB 2024 affect my prescribed medical cannabis vapes? A: No, if your medical cannabis products are prescribed under the Texas Compassionate Use Program (TCUP), they are exempt from this law. Your access to your prescribed medication remains protected.

 

 

Posted
28 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Vaping is terrible for your lungs dude

But still a choice he, as an adult, should be able to make for himself. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Ragde said:

But still a choice he, as an adult, should be able to make for himself. 

If the government doesn’t hav eth right to regulate what you do or do not put into your body, doesn’t that mean that any drug regulations would be considered null and void?  As per the signed and notarized contract between a person and god?

Posted
30 minutes ago, Ragde said:

But still a choice he, as an adult, should be able to make for himself. 

So in your opinion, we should be able to buy asbestos sandwiches?

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Posted
1 minute ago, Sawbonz said:

So in your opinion, we should be able to buy asbestos sandwiches?

In your opinion, should alcohol be banned?

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3 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

So in your opinion, we should be able to buy asbestos sandwiches?

If it's slapped with a label that says, "Will cause cancer", probably. I'm in favor of all drugs being legal and regulated. compassionate use would cut down on a lot of death and crime. a lot, a lot. I'm also in favor of euthanasia. I'm basically in favor of you being allowed to do whatever you want to yourself. it's your life. just don't involve anyone else (and therein lies the gray area)

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Posted
28 minutes ago, Foosters said:

In your opinion, should alcohol be banned?

No, but if someone wants to bring to market an injectable ir insufflation delivery system for alcohol, they should have to demonstrate it is safe

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

No, but if someone wants to bring to market an injectable ir insufflation delivery system for alcohol, they should have to demonstrate it is safe

Can you just start by demonstrating the safeness of alcohol?

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1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

If the government doesn’t hav eth right to regulate what you do or do not put into your body, doesn’t that mean that any drug regulations would be considered null and void?  As per the signed and notarized contract between a person and god?

So you are in favor of alcohol prohibition? 

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Actual non-gotcha question for @Sawbonz

As someone who occasionally vapes THC, my understanding was that it is believed to be safer than leaf combustion (cigarette or joint) but that most of the health concerns come from the unknowns that are present due to lack of studies? Is that fair?

I prefer edibles and have a dry-herb vape that I'm far more comfortable using than the oil, although it is not near as convenient.

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Just now, Foosters said:

Actual non-gotcha question for @Sawbonz

As someone who occasionally vapes THC, my understanding was that it is believed to be safer than leaf combustion (cigarette or joint) but that most of the health concerns come from the unknowns that are present due to lack of studies? Is that fair?

I prefer edibles and have a dry-herb vape that I'm far more comfortable using than the oil, although it is not near as convenient.

I’m just a dumb bone doctor so I do not know. I have read that some of the  substances in the liquids, when heated, get converted to free radicals and other toxic shit and can fuck up your lungs with minimal exposure. I would think if a company is profiting by selling such a delivery system they should be required to demonstrate its safety, even if users know the substance being delivered may be / is harmful 

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Inhaling anything other than air, or other breathable gases I'm sure is sub-optimal.

But vape liquids mostly produce water vapor, with nicotine or THC and flavoring.

There are a lot of unknowns, yes, but compared to inhaling combustion products, it's got to be a harm-reduction strategy.

So concluded the CDC's former head of the anti-smoking program.

Posted
1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

But vape liquids mostly produce water vapor, with nicotine or THC and flavoring.

Is that right? Because the THC stuff is a pretty thick oil, and I'm just imagining my lungs looking kinda like my oven range hood after a couple of months of cooking...

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5 hours ago, HalfSack Horn said:

It’s all cbd/thc vapes + the nicotine vapes(Geek bar, Tyson, etc) that have any parts from China.  I quit cigarettes by using a vape.  I won’t claim it’s healthy by any means, but it’s better than cigs.   I just figured out the ban on vapes when the prices started going through the roof.

This state bows down to the alcohol and tobacco lobby.  

I also quit cigs by using a vape, and quitting the goddamn vape was 100x harder.

Nowadays I don't use any nicotine/tobacco products at all but I'm on those THC gummies every day.

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7 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

But vape liquids mostly produce water vapor, with nicotine or THC and flavoring

Yeah I don’t know how heating organic compounds to a temp that would vaporize them would not result in harmful byproducts but I’m definitely not an expert. And oils wouldn’t have water in them unless there is some type of emulsifier which seems like a horrible idea 

Posted
22 minutes ago, Foosters said:

I prefer edibles and have a dry-herb vape that I'm far more comfortable using than the oil, although it is not near as convenient.

I'm starting to see a correlation with the THC vape sales ban and all the PAX dry-herb vape ads I've been getting in my instagram feed these last few weeks.  Moose out front should've told me though.

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10 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Yeah I don’t know how heating organic compounds to a temp that would vaporize them would not result in harmful byproducts but I’m definitely not an expert. And oils wouldn’t have water in them unless there is some type of emulsifier which seems like a horrible idea 

You're only ever in the danger zone (as far as creating harmful byproducts goes) if you are heating them to a point that actually causes thermal degradation. None of the commercial disposables (like Geek Bars or whatever) that most people use get hot enough for this to happen. If you're using a custom vape with high wattage, that can be a different story, especially if you're not replacing your coils as often as you should.

Also, what TH is saying isn't really correct. There is no water vapor coming from the e-liquid, it's aerosolized glycerin and propylene glycol. Whatever water vapor you're exhaling comes from the air in your lungs.

Either way, I'm glad I don't touch the stuff anymore.

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The D8 vapes that I have all feel really bad when compared to putting flower in a Pax. I use gummies 95% of the time now, but the unregulated vapes felt pretty scammy honestly. 

Posted
13 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

The D8 vapes that I have all feel really bad when compared to putting flower in a Pax. I use gummies 95% of the time now, but the unregulated vapes felt pretty scammy honestly. 

well the unregulated ones which garbage put into them is a different issue, but even with those that are well-tested and regulated, I'm still concerned about inhaling a heated oil

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5 minutes ago, Foosters said:

well the unregulated ones which garbage put into them is a different issue, but even with those that are well-tested and regulated, I'm still concerned about inhaling a heated oil

Vape juice contains water soluble organic compounds, no oils. Still not good for you, I imagine, but inhaling heated oil would cause [maybe permanent] lung damage pretty quickly I think.

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1 hour ago, Foosters said:

Actual non-gotcha question for @Sawbonz

As someone who occasionally vapes THC, my understanding was that it is believed to be safer than leaf combustion (cigarette or joint) but that most of the health concerns come from the unknowns that are present due to lack of studies? Is that fair?

I prefer edibles and have a dry-herb vape that I'm far more comfortable using than the oil, although it is not near as convenient.

A lot of vapes put heavy metals into your lungs.

https://www.ucdavis.edu/news/disposable-e-cigarettes-more-toxic-traditional-cigarettes

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Posted
1 hour ago, Brian Fantana said:

I also quit cigs by using a vape, and quitting the goddamn vape was 100x harder.

Nowadays I don't use any nicotine/tobacco products at all but I'm on those THC gummies every day.

Which banned dyes are in those gummies?

Posted
5 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

A lot of vapes put heavy metals into your lungs.

No worries. I already have heavy metal coursing through my veins. 

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Posted
46 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

You're only ever in the danger zone (as far as creating harmful byproducts goes) if you are heating them to a point that actually causes thermal degradation. None of the commercial disposables (like Geek Bars or whatever) that most people use get hot enough for this to happen. If you're using a custom vape with high wattage, that can be a different story, especially if you're not replacing your coils as often as you should.

Also, what TH is saying isn't really correct. There is no water vapor coming from the e-liquid, it's aerosolized glycerin and propylene glycol. Whatever water vapor you're exhaling comes from the air in your lungs.

Either way, I'm glad I don't touch the stuff anymore.

What temp do vape pens generate?  Quick google search says propylene glycol can decompose into formaldehyde and other toxic agents as low as 140C. 

google also says vape coils hit that temp and well above. 

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24 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Vape juice contains water soluble organic compounds, no oils. Still not good for you, I imagine, but inhaling heated oil would cause [maybe permanent] lung damage pretty quickly I think.

Are you sure? A quick search shows that these types of cartridges contain "cannabis oil."

THE LEGION OF BLOOM — The Monarch Vape Line

Whatever it is, its so viscous that turning the cart upside down will take hours for the solution to settle at the bottom

 

Posted
11 hours ago, scottsins said:

Have we just totally glossed over the ban of all sales of THC vape products that went into effect? Delta-8, THC-A, hemp derived Delta-9, etc?

I knew nothing about it until yesterday.

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Posted
Just now, Foosters said:

Are you sure? A quick search shows that these types of cartridges contain "cannabis oil."

THE LEGION OF BLOOM — The Monarch Vape Line

Whatever it is, its so viscous that turning the cart upside down will take hours for the solution to settle at the bottom

 

I don't know about those, never used them. I was talking specifically about nicotine vape juice.

5 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

What temp do vape pens generate?  Quick google search says propylene glycol can decompose into formaldehyde and other toxic agents as low as 140C. 

google also says vape coils hit that temp and well above. 

I'm not sure, not an expert by any means but I would guess that temperature is just one factor. I know I read a while back that most of the toxic byproduct release was attributed to dry hits or improperly installed coils etc.

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People vaping in 2025 is insane to me, but to each their own. Keeps my job safe. You wouldnt believe how hard it is to extubate someone who is a regular vape user vs non-smoker.

 

 

Gummies easily where its at

Posted
57 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

it's aerosolized glycerin and propylene glycol.

Again I don’t know how these pens work but compounds like this break down to bad shit if heated above certain temps. It’s why in O chem lab we had to heat certain reagents over a water bath instead of over a flame or hot plate

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1 minute ago, Sawbonz said:

Again I don’t know how these pens work but compounds like this break down to bad shit if heated above certain temps. It’s why in O chem lab we had to heat certain reagents over a water bath instead of over a flame or hot plate

Whatever medical nerd, we amateur home chefs call that a double boiler

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i think we're all talking about different things.

- E-cigs with liquid (can be broken down further into disposable vs refillable)

- Vaping THC oil (can be broken down further into disposable vs refillable AND regulated vs unregulated)

- Vaping dry herb THC

Anyway, sorry for the thread derail. Probably a better place to continue the conversation.

 



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