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He doesn't have to hire someone new, just let Milwee or Hand call the fucking plays. And if there's some weird shit going on with Worthy put him on the bench for christ sakes. 

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13 minutes ago, jw4381 said:

He doesn't have to hire someone new, just let Milwee or Hand call the fucking plays. And if there's some weird shit going on with Worthy put him on the bench for christ sakes. 

Hand?

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8 minutes ago, troph said:

 I’m not sure if sark is one of the best play callers.  He’s above average but just because he looked like a genius at Bama doesn’t mean he’s the best. Greg Davis looked like a genius with VY too, he’d probably look the part under saban too. Plus Sark’s on the sideline as the HC so he can’t see the defensive schemes as easily which he would from the booth and he’s got a team to manage (or not) in addition to calling the plays.  At best the jury is still out.  Win 9 next year and he’s back to his high water mark and we can see if he can up from there. Until he hits 10+ though it’s hard to call him one of the best of anything. 

That horse has been rendered into its subatomic particles, but Greg Davis wasn’t exactly lacking for talent to utilize pre-VY. 

I agree the jury is still out. Sarkisian, imo, can get plenty of feedback from the booth if he needs it. Some coordinators think they feel from game better on the field, others don’t. I’d want to see all 22, but I’m not everyone. 

Even if Sarkisian is “only” above average, you still have to replace him with someone at least as good or hope his activity in other areas more than offsets the loss. I think it’s probably easier to find someone competent to pick up whatever slack in other areas than find someone who groks the offense as well. 

I think most, if not all, fanbases hyper-analyze at a micro level on up. No one is going to be happy with every substitution, play call, etc. and the coaches will be “idiots” for any choice that leads to less than a stellar outcome. At a more macro level, and I know he knows this already, Sarkisian needs to get a handle on closing out games. 10-2 was there for the taking and Texas needs to start taking it. That starts with him. 

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Gonna jump off my soap box after this because i had a Delta 9 gummy…I’m rolling:

I also get irritated with the notion that Dykes somehow had it easier than Sark (because Dykes had more upperclassmen)

That team went 5-7 last year and Patterson was fired. We know that. 15 players transferred out. The rest that were left (90% of those players) hadn’t played in a bowl game. Over the last four seasons Patterson had gone 23-24.

4 of the 15 that left were at least considered high end talents. Dykes didn’t have the luxury of relying on the recruiting class. This team wasn’t good enough to make a bowl much less think of red shirting anyone like the better teams get to do. They go to a bowl and get 15 or so extra practices to work in the freshman. That’s the old way. Not saying we shouldn’t do it or it doesn’t work. Dykes didn’t have that so he had a steep climb.

13 scholarship spaces open up and he snagged them via a transfer portal. So you now  have a hodge podge for lack of a better term of players. The core (TCU guys who’d stayed) 90% of them had never been to a bowl game. Enter a new offensive system. To all of them. Enter a new defensive formation. No more 4 man rush…moved to a 3-3-5. They ended the regular season 3rd in the nation in scoring.
 

Their RB Kendra Miller had 1400 yds and 17TDs (for comparison Bijan had 1580 yards and 18 TDs,) their WR (a UT decommit) is likely to go high in the 2023 draft. 
 

The job Dykes had to do and has done with this team and his coordinators is nothing short of spectacular. I saw some good things from our team this year. Saw some potential. But Sark in no way shape or form came close to the job HC Dykes did this year and quite honestly had a lot of personnel to make a CCG run and win it. We fell short and that’s on him and his middle school duckass haircut.

gummies rule! 

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 I’m not sure if sark is one of the best play callers.  He’s above average but just because he looked like a genius at Bama doesn’t mean he’s the best. Greg Davis looked like a genius with VY too, he’d probably look the part under saban too. Plus Sark’s on the sideline as the HC so he can’t see the defensive schemes as easily which he would from the booth and he’s got a team to manage (or not) in addition to calling the plays.  At best the jury is still out.  Win 9 next year and he’s back to his high water mark and we can see if he can up from there. Until he hits 10+ though it’s hard to call him one of the best of anything. 

Play design/scheming and play calling are two different things. He’s proven elite at the former. I don’t think he’s a terrible play caller, but he’s certainly delivered some head scratchers on that front.
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9 hours ago, utee94 said:

1940 BUICK SPECIAL CONVERTIBLE

 

Oh and Sark would make a great position coach, maybe a coordinator.  (did I do that bit right?)

 

 

I think I see Jay Leon’s face on fire  in the hood reflection…..

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31 minutes ago, jw4381 said:

Is that the guy that had #5 on the sidelines on their 4th down play?

Pretty sure Lane Kiffin was calling plays for USC in that Championship game. 

Wonder if Kiffin or Pete Carroll made that 4th and 2 play call that the Horns stopped late in the 4th quarter.

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10 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Pretty sure Lane Kiffin was calling plays for USC in that Championship game. 

Wonder if Kiffin or Pete Carroll made that 4th and 2 play call that the Horns stopped late in the 4th quarter.

Found Staff info for 2005 USC

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2 hours ago, troph said:

 I’m not sure if sark is one of the best play callers.  He’s above average but just because he looked like a genius at Bama doesn’t mean he’s the best. Greg Davis looked like a genius with VY too, he’d probably look the part under saban too. Plus Sark’s on the sideline as the HC so he can’t see the defensive schemes as easily which he would from the booth and he’s got a team to manage (or not) in addition to calling the plays.  At best the jury is still out.  Win 9 next year and he’s back to his high water mark and we can see if he can up from there. Until he hits 10+ though it’s hard to call him one of the best of anything. 

  Someone in the booth is validating what he is seeing. 

 

  Greg Davis did NOT look like a genius with VY. VY was off script quite a lot. Greg looked good for about half a season when we started running Colt's offense and then teams caught up to us. The thing with Sark is he has always looked good to great calling plays at the college level. We've seen his bottom at Washington and his top at Bama. For me though we just aren't executing well right now and we are STILL scoring points at a decent clip. So my thing is pretty simple. If we look solid offensively now how good to we look when the line isn't busting every other play, our WR's can catch, we have more than 2, and our QB has a year or two experience under his belt? We are currently 25th in scoring with all the issues we have. 

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1 hour ago, Nicole44 said:

Gonna jump off my soap box after this because i had a Delta 9 gummy…I’m rolling:

I also get irritated with the notion that Dykes somehow had it easier than Sark (because Dykes had more upperclassmen)

That team went 5-7 last year and Patterson was fired. We know that. 15 players transferred out. The rest that were left (90% of those players) hadn’t played in a bowl game. Over the last four seasons Patterson had gone 23-24.

4 of the 15 that left were at least considered high end talents. Dykes didn’t have the luxury of relying on the recruiting class. This team wasn’t good enough to make a bowl much less think of red shirting anyone like the better teams get to do. They go to a bowl and get 15 or so extra practices to work in the freshman. That’s the old way. Not saying we shouldn’t do it or it doesn’t work. Dykes didn’t have that so he had a steep climb.

13 scholarship spaces open up and he snagged them via a transfer portal. So you now  have a hodge podge for lack of a better term of players. The core (TCU guys who’d stayed) 90% of them had never been to a bowl game. Enter a new offensive system. To all of them. Enter a new defensive formation. No more 4 man rush…moved to a 3-3-5. They ended the regular season 3rd in the nation in scoring.
 

Their RB Kendra Miller had 1400 yds and 17TDs (for comparison Bijan had 1580 yards and 18 TDs,) their WR (a UT decommit) is likely to go high in the 2023 draft. 
 

The job Dykes had to do and has done with this team and his coordinators is nothing short of spectacular. I saw some good things from our team this year. Saw some potential. But Sark in no way shape or form came close to the job HC Dykes did this year and quite honestly had a lot of personnel to make a CCG run and win it. We fell short and that’s on him and his middle school duckass haircut.

gummies rule! 

  There are 3 areas that destroy you as a coach when it comes to wins and losses. Line play and QB. If you are good in the trenches and have solid QB play you are in the hunt. TCU had a lot of question marks, but they are solid in those depts. That's the reason people here aren't sold on him. Case in point, Manny Diaz looked like a rock star when he inherited Boom's defense. As soon as those guys were gone he was trash. Coaching in college is about talent recognition and development if you wanna be around long term. Period. Some coaches can run a team, but can't recruit and develop. Herman was like that. Good with other people's guys but not good at finding his own. Dykes may be one of those guys. Jury is still out. 

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2 hours ago, Doc Daneeka said:

That horse has been rendered into its subatomic particles, but Greg Davis wasn’t exactly lacking for talent to utilize pre-VY. 

I agree the jury is still out. Sarkisian, imo, can get plenty of feedback from the booth if he needs it. Some coordinators think they feel from game better on the field, others don’t. I’d want to see all 22, but I’m not everyone. 

Even if Sarkisian is “only” above average, you still have to replace him with someone at least as good or hope his activity in other areas more than offsets the loss. I think it’s probably easier to find someone competent to pick up whatever slack in other areas than find someone who groks the offense as well. 

I think most, if not all, fanbases hyper-analyze at a micro level on up. No one is going to be happy with every substitution, play call, etc. and the coaches will be “idiots” for any choice that leads to less than a stellar outcome. At a more macro level, and I know he knows this already, Sarkisian needs to get a handle on closing out games. 10-2 was there for the taking and Texas needs to start taking it. That starts with him. 

I know GD lacked pre-VY in production but not talent, which is why I compare the two. I’m not sold on Sark to produce as HC even with elite talent. But make no mistake, elite talent should win at elite levels. Yeah, I said it. You recruit top 3-5 every year you should be in the CFP semis 3 out of 4 years. Let’s see if he can win 9 games without having the best RB in CFB. 

As for nit picking - I don’t really subscribe to the hindsight model of criticism. Plenty of plays are criticized based on outcome not available information at the the time the decision was made.  But trends do matter. His offenses disappeared for long stretches, he underutilized BJ all but a few games. He made a few situational mistakes I thought like going for the block against TCU, and I think his ability to adjust is lacking. But this pass or that run, nah. This Ewers decision or that one, nah. This blown assignment or that one, nah. Especially on player mistakes he got a pass from me this year on youth. I get it, what it takes to find the flow state where good decisions are made effortlessly is extremely hard and takes a ton of practice and experience. So you have to separate that out and look at whether sark did the things he needed to do to put this team in the best position to win now. He didn’t do that repeatedly. I mean with the known WR/QB issues I can’t figure out how you aren’t throwing the ball to BJ 3-4 times a game, he averages over 15 yards a catch and is widely known to have great hands and make the first guy miss. How many receptions did he have this year? 16 … for the whole year.  Fact is, sark might be good on a white board but he lacked this season when he had one of the best players in all of football he coulda rode to 9+ wins.  He gets a C at best on game planning and play calling from me this year.

2 hours ago, gmr548 said:


Play design/scheming and play calling are two different things. He’s proven elite at the former. I don’t think he’s a terrible play caller, but he’s certainly delivered some head scratchers on that front.

I said play calling.  I think he’s actually suspect when he’s got the full HC job to handle as well as play calling. I hope he proves us all wrong (or right for those that think he’s the guy). As for play design, meh, GD won a championship copying others, Mike Leach, God rest his soul, runs circles around Sark on innovation but didn’t win anything. true innovative play design in its purest form is over rated.  Coaching and calling plays and executing are where games are won. 

again, hope is the best strategy if you aren’t willing to just take a dispassion wait and see approach. I’d like to think I’m the latter but I’m bitching on a message board so I guess I’m the former. I hope it gets better.

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47 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

  Someone in the booth is validating what he is seeing. 

 

  Greg Davis did NOT look like a genius with VY. VY was off script quite a lot. Greg looked good for about half a season when we started running Colt's offense and then teams caught up to us. The thing with Sark is he has always looked good to great calling plays at the college level. We've seen his bottom at Washington and his top at Bama. For me though we just aren't executing well right now and we are STILL scoring points at a decent clip. So my thing is pretty simple. If we look solid offensively now how good to we look when the line isn't busting every other play, our WR's can catch, we have more than 2, and our QB has a year or two experience under his belt? We are currently 25th in scoring with all the issues we have. 

I said GD looked like a genius, I clearly implied he wasn’t. Don’t be insincere just to argue it’s unbecoming of a guy that tries to come off as smart.

no shit he’s got eyes upstairs. You know what else? he comes across as a bit of an ego, he knows best, and stubborn, so I’m unsure what that dynamic really looks like between sark and upstairs. As I just mentioned though, he was off enough this season with the players he had that something isn’t quite right, even ignoring his impressive historical track record.  Saying the guy is a genius doesn’t make him one, it’s just one guy saying he’s a genius. It’s very post-factual modernism or whatever the historians and philosophy types call it, I believe it ergo it’s true. Sorry, I didn’t see any genius this year despite plenty saying he is one.

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39 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

  There are 3 areas that destroy you as a coach when it comes to wins and losses. Line play and QB. If you are good in the trenches and have solid QB play you are in the hunt. TCU had a lot of question marks, but they are solid in those depts. That's the reason people here aren't sold on him. Case in point, Manny Diaz looked like a rock star when he inherited Boom's defense. As soon as those guys were gone he was trash. Coaching in college is about talent recognition and development if you wanna be around long term. Period. Some coaches can run a team, but can't recruit and develop. Herman was like that. Good with other people's guys but not good at finding his own. Dykes may be one of those guys. Jury is still out. 

The jury is still out on whether Dykes or Sark can be the HC that recruits and develops those recruits year over year. The jury is not out on whether or not Dykes can come into a team year one, effectively use the transfer portal to fill no fewer than 15 slots because players portaled out after Paterson was shitcanned. We know Sark is not going to build a team that way. I’m on the fence as to whether or not he can build it the old way sparingly using the portal. We know he didn’t do what Dykes did nor would he have. I want him to succeed. Criticizing him is fair. Not calling for him to be fired but he shares some blame as to how this season turned out in addition to the poor execution on the field. 
 

He’s also stated repeatedly when he was HC at Washington that he had no intention of giving up playcalling as that was his superpower and such. At some point, he will have to if he hopes to get to winning CCGs and having the chance to be in the playoffs year over year. We’ll see. I’m willing to give sark leeway because he was literally intoxicated the bulk of his HC. He didn’t have the portal or NIL at his disposal. I give a pass to Dykes for some of Cal bc it’s Cal man. Most posters were lamenting Texas was turning into Cal which I assume is a bad thing. Plus up until SMU didn’t really have portal to help out with. I imagine he’s had a tough time of recruiting. Were they to win the MNC, I bet that helps a bit. 
 

Jury is still out for both HC on whether lo term success can be achieved and their teams can hover around the top 10 or better in rankings each year. I know CDC has walked back in recent days the fact that he wanted Dykes…but as a comparison for that purpose Sark wouldn’t and can’t do what Dykes did this year. Whether it’s just a one off or not, we’ll see. 

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Jimbo Fisher is bringing in former Arkansas and Louisville head coach Bobby Petrino, one of the most respected offensive minds in football, to be Texas A&M's offensive coordinator, sources told ESPN.
Fisher has always called his own plays on offense and is one of the diminishing number of head coaches to do so, and although he will still be heavily involved in the Aggies' offense, sources told ESPN that Petrino will take over primary play-calling duties.
It's not uncommon for Fisher to take his time and wait until January to make a coordinator hire. He hired his last two defensive coordinators (D.J. Durkin and Mike Elko) after the New Year. For this job, Fisher also talked to TCU offensive coordinator Garrett Riley, among others, sources told ESPN.
 
Sooooooo even Dumbo Jimbo is finally getting an OC. 
Nah, he's getting a sacrificial lamb to blame when the offense goes tits up yet again in '23, and Petrino is getting his retirement funded with aggy bucks.
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Gonna jump off my soap box after this because i had a Delta 9 gummy…I’m rolling:
I also get irritated with the notion that Dykes somehow had it easier than Sark (because Dykes had more upperclassmen)
That team went 5-7 last year and Patterson was fired. We know that. 15 players transferred out. The rest that were left (90% of those players) hadn’t played in a bowl game. Over the last four seasons Patterson had gone 23-24.
4 of the 15 that left were at least considered high end talents. Dykes didn’t have the luxury of relying on the recruiting class. This team wasn’t good enough to make a bowl much less think of red shirting anyone like the better teams get to do. They go to a bowl and get 15 or so extra practices to work in the freshman. That’s the old way. Not saying we shouldn’t do it or it doesn’t work. Dykes didn’t have that so he had a steep climb.
13 scholarship spaces open up and he snagged them via a transfer portal. So you now  have a hodge podge for lack of a better term of players. The core (TCU guys who’d stayed) 90% of them had never been to a bowl game. Enter a new offensive system. To all of them. Enter a new defensive formation. No more 4 man rush…moved to a 3-3-5. They ended the regular season 3rd in the nation in scoring.
 
Their RB Kendra Miller had 1400 yds and 17TDs (for comparison Bijan had 1580 yards and 18 TDs,) their WR (a UT decommit) is likely to go high in the 2023 draft. 
 
The job Dykes had to do and has done with this team and his coordinators is nothing short of spectacular. I saw some good things from our team this year. Saw some potential. But Sark in no way shape or form came close to the job HC Dykes did this year and quite honestly had a lot of personnel to make a CCG run and win it. We fell short and that’s on him and his middle school duckass haircut.
gummies rule! 
Delta 9 you say? Intredasting

Yes, that's all I took away from your essay, but agree Dykes did a great job this year with froggy, but there was a fair bit of luck involved with achieving the record they did.
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6 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

I get what you are saying but I mean whenever I lose at Madden I don’t blame myself either. It’s not my execution…lol.

You still play Madden? I was holding you to higher standards.

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3 hours ago, troph said:

I said GD looked like a genius, I clearly implied he wasn’t. Don’t be insincere just to argue it’s unbecoming of a guy that tries to come off as smart.

no shit he’s got eyes upstairs. You know what else? he comes across as a bit of an ego, he knows best, and stubborn, so I’m unsure what that dynamic really looks like between sark and upstairs. As I just mentioned though, he was off enough this season with the players he had that something isn’t quite right, even ignoring his impressive historical track record.  Saying the guy is a genius doesn’t make him one, it’s just one guy saying he’s a genius. It’s very post-factual modernism or whatever the historians and philosophy types call it, I believe it ergo it’s true. Sorry, I didn’t see any genius this year despite plenty saying he is one.

   Look, I don't need the insults. Save them for someone else. Whatever your opinion of me is of your own manufacturing. Outside of this board I am a regular guy that just played enough football to understand what I am seeing and how things work. I am not on here claiming I know a guy or am big inside the program. Go chase after those dudes. I state my opinion strongly because I have a lot of faith in it. Nothing more, nothing less. 

  

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4 hours ago, Thatguy said:

   Look, I don't need the insults. Save them for someone else. Whatever your opinion of me is of your own manufacturing. Outside of this board I am a regular guy that just played enough football to understand what I am seeing and how things work. I am not on here claiming I know a guy or am big inside the program. Go chase after those dudes. I state my opinion strongly because I have a lot of faith in it. Nothing more, nothing less. 

  

It wasn’t an insult. Stop projecting. You acted liked I thought GD was a real man of genius when it was clear that was not my point. You’re a smart guy don’t weaken your reputation and insight by arguing against positions you know I didn’t take. 

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8 hours ago, troph said:

I know GD lacked pre-VY in production but not talent, which is why I compare the two. I’m not sold on Sark to produce as HC even with elite talent. But make no mistake, elite talent should win at elite levels. Yeah, I said it. You recruit top 3-5 every year you should be in the CFP semis 3 out of 4 years. Let’s see if he can win 9 games without having the best RB in CFB. 

As for nit picking - I don’t really subscribe to the hindsight model of criticism. Plenty of plays are criticized based on outcome not available information at the the time the decision was made.  But trends do matter. His offenses disappeared for long stretches, he underutilized BJ all but a few games. He made a few situational mistakes I thought like going for the block against TCU, and I think his ability to adjust is lacking. But this pass or that run, nah. This Ewers decision or that one, nah. This blown assignment or that one, nah. Especially on player mistakes he got a pass from me this year on youth. I get it, what it takes to find the flow state where good decisions are made effortlessly is extremely hard and takes a ton of practice and experience. So you have to separate that out and look at whether sark did the things he needed to do to put this team in the best position to win now. He didn’t do that repeatedly. I mean with the known WR/QB issues I can’t figure out how you aren’t throwing the ball to BJ 3-4 times a game, he averages over 15 yards a catch and is widely known to have great hands and make the first guy miss. How many receptions did he have this year? 16 … for the whole year.  Fact is, sark might be good on a white board but he lacked this season when he had one of the best players in all of football he coulda rode to 9+ wins.  He gets a C at best on game planning and play calling from me this year.

How many of the times his offense disappeared for long stretches involved penalties putting the O behind the chains or mistakes that erased successful plays?

If he doesn’t get 9 wins next season, that’s a D or an F, imo. 

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1 minute ago, Doc Daneeka said:

How many of the times his offense disappeared for long stretches involved penalties putting the O behind the chains or mistakes that erased successful plays?

If he doesn’t get 9 wins next season, that’s a D or an F, imo. 

Did you read my post? And if your grade for him is D or F if he doesn’t get to 9 wins next year, then what was his grade for 8 wins with the best RB in the game this year?  I gave him a C. That’s not unreasonable.

I made it clear he gets a bit of a pass for execution, and decisions by young players.   Did you read that part? 

did you read the part that one of the best pass catching and electrifying defender escaping RB’s Texas has ever had and the best in the nation this year only caught 16 passes all season. 

genius. 

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5 minutes ago, troph said:

Did you read my post? And if your grade for him is D or F if he doesn’t get to 9 wins next year, then what was his grade for 8 wins with the best RB in the game this year?  I gave him a C. That’s not unreasonable.

I made it clear he gets a bit of a pass for execution, and decisions by young players.   Did you read that part? 

did you read the part that one of the best pass catching and electrifying defender escaping RB’s Texas has ever had and the best in the nation this year only caught 16 passes all season. 

genius. 

Yeah, I read it. You don’t hold him accountable for player mistakes… though  player mistakes are a significant factor in why the offense disappeared. So it sounds like you absolutely are holding him accountable for them  

I’d give him a C for 2022. It was meh. Not great, not a disaster. 

Edit: Sanders drop against OSU? Ewers run there being called back? Execution problems?

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4 minutes ago, Doc Daneeka said:

Yeah, I read it. You don’t hold him accountable for player mistakes… though  player mistakes are a significant factor in why the offense disappeared. So it sounds like you absolutely are holding him accountable for them  

 

All or nothing much?  False dichotomy much?
 

Play calling at times was a problem. Not putting young players in better positions to succeed with his calls. Not leaning on his stars in ways that increase chances to succeed. In game management. Personnel decisions. Not every stall was due to penalties or dumb decisions.  
 

what’s his grade for this season?  I said C, you’re arguing with me it must be higher. Do tell. 

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All or nothing much?  False dichotomy much?
 
Play calling at times was a problem. Not putting young players in better positions to succeed with his calls. In game management. Not every stall was due to penalties or dumb decisions.  
 
what’s his grade for this season?  I said C, you’re arguing with me it must be higher. Do tell. 

I said C. And that the same results will be a D or F next season.
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Just now, Doc Daneeka said:


I said C. And that the same results will be a D or F next season.

Then stop nit picking looking for areas we can argue because we largely agree. 

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All or nothing much?  False dichotomy much?
 
Play calling at times was a problem. Not putting young players in better positions to succeed with his calls. Not leaning on his stars in ways that increase chances to succeed. In game management. Personnel decisions. Not every stall was due to penalties or dumb decisions.  
 
what’s his grade for this season?  I said C, you’re arguing with me it must be higher. Do tell. 

All or nothing much? No, not every stall was penalties and dumb decisions. Not every drive for anyone is a scoring drive, though.

Is the standard “no punts absent penalties or dumb decisions” or it’s problematic?
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4 minutes ago, Doc Daneeka said:


All or nothing much? No, not every stall was penalties and dumb decisions. Not every drive for anyone is a scoring drive, though.

Is the standard “no punts absent penalties or dumb decisions” or it’s problematic?

Where did I all or nothing in that post? I didn’t.  Creating a strawman to argue on a message board isn’t worth my time. This back and forth is worse than the CR tbqh.

3 minutes ago, Doc Daneeka said:


We clearly don’t agree on why, though, but that’s unlikely to happen, apparently.

Ok. Have a great day! 

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3 minutes ago, troph said:

Where did I all or nothing in that post? I didn’t. 

"Not every stall was due to penalties or dumb decisions."

I just typed it, so there may be some holes or scenarios not considered.

 

 

Sarkisian 2023 Grading Expectations


I don't support grade inflation. A "C" is average. Acceptable. Meh. 


A+: National Championship

A: Playoff appearance

A-: Big 12 Championship with bowl win
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B: Big 12 Championship with bowl loss
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C+: 2 losses with no Big 12 Championship game [E.g. 2 conference teams with < 2 losses]

C :Big 12 Championship Game

C-: 3 losses with no Big 12 Championship game [E.g. Lose to Alabama and 2 conference teams with < 2 losses]
***

D : 4 losses

F: 5+ losses
 

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25 minutes ago, Doc Daneeka said:

How many of the times his offense disappeared for long stretches involved penalties putting the O behind the chains or mistakes that erased successful plays?

If he doesn’t get 9 wins next season, that’s a D or an F, imo. 

So the team lacks discipline.

If he doesn't win 10 games next year that's D or F. 

It's year 3. All the players on the roster are his now essentially. No more fucking excuses.

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Just now, BurntOrange&amp;White said:

So the team lacks discipline.

If he doesn't win 10 games next year that's D or F. 

It's year 3. All the players on the roster are his now essentially. No more fucking excuses.

My point of view on 2023…


A+: National Championship

A: Playoff appearance

A-: Big 12 Championship with bowl win
***

B: Big 12 Championship with bowl loss
***

C+: 2 losses with no Big 12 Championship game [E.g. 2 conference teams with < 2 losses]

C :Big 12 Championship Game

C-: 3 losses with no Big 12 Championship game [E.g. Lose to Alabama and 2 conference teams with < 2 losses]
***

D : 4 losses

F: 5+ losses
 

Posted
19 hours ago, BurntOrange&amp;White said:

7.5 seems the new minimum for a good coach. 10 million plus if you're putting your nuts on the table to get a great coach. 

 

 

 

Or 10M for this guy.  Low T champion of the world.  

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Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, Doc Daneeka said:

 

My point of view on 2023…


A+: National Championship

A: Playoff appearance

A-: Big 12 Championship with bowl win
***

B: Big 12 Championship with bowl loss
***

C+: 2 losses with no Big 12 Championship game [E.g. 2 conference teams with < 2 losses]

C :Big 12 Championship Game

C-: 3 losses with no Big 12 Championship game [E.g. Lose to Alabama and 2 conference teams with < 2 losses]
***

D : 4 losses

F: 5+ losses
 

10 regular season wins minimum. No one in the big 12 is unbeatable next year, even with the new additions coming over. 

Cincinnati will have a new coach but will be a team to watch depending on how they take to their new HC culture

BYU meh

Houston won't be very good

UCF might be a team to watch if they're on our regular season schedule. 


As far as current members:

TCU loses a ton - Only singling them out for their success this year

Kansas State will likely be favorite to win big 12 IMO.

Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State - probably above average, decent

Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, West Virginia - meh

 

 

So Kansas State, Cincy, UCF are 3 teams, if scheduled would be a toss up in selecting as far as conference play goes.

 

OOC - Bama


But I'm sure we will absolutely lose a game or 2 we should not



 

13 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Or 10M for this guy.  Low T champion of the world.  

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If that bitch out west was smart he'd be doing everything he can to poach that Iowa State DC.

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Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

10 regular season wins minimum. No one in the big 12 is unbeatable next year, even with the new additions coming over. 

Cincinnati will have a new coach but will be a team to watch depending on how they take to their new HC culture

BYU meh

Houston won't be very good

UCF might be a team to watch if they're on our regular season schedule. 


As far as current members:

TCU loses a ton - Only singling them out for their success this year

Kansas State will likely be favorite to win big 12 IMO.

Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State - probably above average, decent

Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, West Virginia - meh

 

 

So Kansas State, Cincy, UCF are 3 teams, if scheduled would be a toss up in selecting as far as conference play goes.

 

OOC - Bama


But I'm sure we will absolutely lose a game or 2 we should not



 

If that bitch out west was smart he'd be doing everything he can to poach that Iowa State DC.

The teams that don’t lose a game they shouldn’t are the exception. Literally almost everyone does and this shouldn’t surprise anyone. A team with a 90% chance to win each game has a less than 1/3 chance of going 12-0.

A C, passing grade, basically starts with being in the Big 12 championship game, imo. 

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8 minutes ago, Doc Daneeka said:

The teams that don’t lose a game they shouldn’t are the exception. Literally almost everyone does and this shouldn’t surprise anyone. A team with a 90% chance to win each game has a less than 1/3 chance of going 12-0.

A C, passing grade, basically starts with being in the Big 12 championship game, imo. 

10 regular season wins minimum.

That is a potential loss to Bama + 1 conference loss.

Or undefeated in non conference + 2 conference losses.

Either one of those scenarios gets you to the Big 12 championship, the second one obviously is a tougher path depending on how conference play shakes out for everyone. 

Year 3 is the show me year. going 8-4, 9-3 in year 3 is laughable with the talent on the roster now.

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5 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

10 regular season wins minimum.

That is a potential loss to Bama + 1 conference loss.

Or undefeated in non conference + 2 conference losses.

Either one of those scenarios gets you to the Big 12 championship, the second one obviously is a tougher path depending on how conference play shakes out for everyone. 

Year 3 is the show me year. going 8-4, 9-3 in year 3 is laughable with the talent on the roster now.

I don’t think 2 conference losses and a loss to Alabama is laughable. It’s not great. It’s about the minimum passing grade, imo, but it’s not laughable. 

Two conference losses probably gets a team to Arlington though, as you say, can be tougher. IMO, getting to Arlington is basically a C. Winning there bumps it to at least a B.

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1 hour ago, Doc Daneeka said:

Yeah, I read it. You don’t hold him accountable for player mistakes… though  player mistakes are a significant factor in why the offense disappeared. So it sounds like you absolutely are holding him accountable for them  

I’d give him a C for 2022. It was meh. Not great, not a disaster. 

Edit: Sanders drop against OSU? Ewers run there being called back? Execution problems?

So…. Middlin?

Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, Doc Daneeka said:

 

My point of view on 2023…


A+: National Championship

A: Playoff appearance

A-: Big 12 Championship with bowl win
***

B: Big 12 Championship with bowl loss
***

C+: 2 losses with no Big 12 Championship game [E.g. 2 conference teams with < 2 losses]

C :Big 12 Championship Game

C-: 3 losses with no Big 12 Championship game [E.g. Lose to Alabama and 2 conference teams with < 2 losses]
***

D : 4 losses

F: 5+ losses
 

There's too much variation in how certain results can happen to have such a rigid scale, IMO. I also think the OU result can swing things a little bit. Pretty much everyone can live with this year because of 49-0. If Texas had the exact same record and result, but won in Stillwater instead of Dallas, how would we feel?

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5 hours ago, GreenspointTexas said:

CDC wanted Dykes

Eltife wanted Sark

Why did CDC concede to the Tyler dwarf and his cronies?

Too much of a diplomat, I guess, but he appeased the money rather than digging in or sticking to his guns. Fund-raising is his first priority, anyway.

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