Players on this team who should NEVER be starting:

[GreenspointTexas 9353]

Ill start - BJ Foster

[USNALonghorn 4964]

Schooler

L. Brockermeyer 

[WBT 20131]

Jones, Okafor, Imade, Angilau

[Beau Vine 53625]

If you didn't start with Brewer, you're doing it wrong.

[GreenspointTexas 9353]

Washington

[Sgt Hulk 13484]

Everyone not named worthy Bijan roschon or overshown.  Everyone else belongs at Texas state 

[victory88 5641]

All of them except Xavier Worthy and Bijan. The rest of these players would not have a scholarship at UGA, Bama, tOSU.  This is where we are as a program.  A 2 win baylor team from last year is taking us to the woodshed.  The baylor players are better.

[ApocalypseTexas 297]

Casey Thompson the entire offensive line the entire defensive line hell outside of B Robinson I can’t think of a single player that deserves to be starting at this point

[GreenspointTexas 9353]

All of our OL

[aureliano buendia 6]

Overshown should not start al LB. I’m tired of watching him get washed out of plays, overrunning plays or trying to tackle people by the shoulder pads.

[Funk Doctor Spock 11609]

The entire O-line, QB's, Brockermeyer, Bush, Foster, Dunn...there's too many to name. Anyone not named Bijan, Xavier, Rojo, Overshown, Josh Thompson, Jamison 

[Bigbend1812 12864]

 

Except Bijan 

[TexArcher 36905]

It'd be quicker to list the guys who aren't a fucking embarrassment.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

there are 2 elite players on the entire roster, from there the drop off is extreme.

[EuroHorn 3144]

Simms 

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Outside of bijan and Xavier I’m not sure who starts for a team like ou.  That being said this is on sark too.  You saw this ol and thought “nah were good.  No need to portal”

[T-dog 202]

Josh Moore should probably not be our #2 receiver…

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1 minute ago, T-dog said:

Josh Moore should probably not be our #2 receiver…

He was awful today

[Thiefery 4940]

5 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Outside of bijan and Xavier I’m not sure who starts for a team like ou.  That being said this is on sark too.  You saw this ol and thought “nah were good.  No need to portal”

lets be real you would still be angry because they did a lot of portaling at DE/OLB and yet it still a huge weakness

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1 minute ago, Thiefery said:

lets be real you would still be angry because they did a lot of portaling at DE/OLB and yet it still a huge weakness

A couple of those Baylor ol were portal guys.  

[Liquor and Poker 3659]

Hard to say since they all regress from the coaching they get here

[bad_teammate 13018]

unpopular, but it rhymes with macey johnnston

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2 minutes ago, Liquor and Poker said:

Hard to say since they all regress from the coaching they get here

For the last twenty years.  Like did a guy like flood just forget to coach

[Sabalo 992]

40 minutes ago, victory88 said:

All of them except Xavier Worthy and Bijan. The rest of these players would not have a scholarship at UGA, Bama, tOSU.  This is where we are as a program.  A 2 win baylor team from last year is taking us to the woodshed.  The baylor players are better.

Wasn't their a rumor before the season that our coaches said basically they no one on this roster would make Bama's two deep? Apparently they were correct. 

[Atticus 3892]

Casey Thompson is solid at times, but you can’t rely on this guy for shit. You need to know what you’re gonna get from your qb.

His running threat would help Bijan more if he would punish them effectively

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13 minutes ago, Sabalo said:

Wasn't their a rumor before the season that our coaches said basically they no one on this roster would make Bama's two deep? Apparently they were correct. 

I mean they were wrong.   X and Bijan would make Bamas two deep

Edited October 30, 2021 by closetohumping

[bad_teammate 13018]

1 minute ago, Atticus said:

Casey Thompson is solid at times, but you can’t rely on this guy for shit. You need to know what you’re gonna get from your qb.

His running threat would help Bijan more if he would punish them effectively

He's not a winner.

It's cliché and hokey, but the leader of a team needs to inspire his guys and Thompson does none of that and maybe even the opposite. There is no one who thinks, "Casey's got this." I don't see an offense that looks like it is ready to go to war for its QB. That OL is uninspired. I don't think he's a cancer or the guys dislike him, but it's damned obvious he doesn't fire them up or make them believe.

The downgrade at QB from Sam to Casey is fucking huge. Some here talk up passing stats and they're whistling past the graveyard. He does just enough to be safe (which keeps stats good, and I don't think that's WHY he plays the way he does).

Fuck stats. People need to shut up about his god damned stats. He's 3-3.

[alphahorn 1637]

The entire OL, TE, QB, LBs, Safeties

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

How many crucial passes did our WRs drop today? It's not all on Casey.

[Atticus 3892]

It’s not huge. Neither QB was that great. Sam was better with experience but they’re not far off now. I agree with the sentiment about Casey, but Sam’s leadership didn’t do a great deal for us. 

Sam’s leadership was the only reason we won 10 games and beat Georgia in the Sugar Bowl. He damn near willed 2 of those TDs on his own

[Tylerocks 2532]

When your best players are a sophomore and a true freshman, your program is broken.

Overshown is a solid 3rd best.

Everyone else is JAG...across the board.

[Atticus 3892]

How many crucial passes did our WRs drop today? It's not all on Casey.

Missing those passes shouldn’t cripple the offense though. He has to pick his spots better

[Tylerocks 2532]

Just now, MaybeACoordinator said:

How many crucial passes did our WRs drop today? It's not all on Casey.

It's not all on Casey for sure.  I think if Washington comes down with that ball, we probably tie it.

Casey isn't a good QB...even the commentators were mentioning his poor footwork

[bad_teammate 13018]

3 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

... but Sam’s leadership didn’t do a great deal for us. 

He carried the team on his back to a Sugar Bowl win. I'm not sitting here arguing that Sam Ehlinger was amazing, just that he gave a shit about winning and that rubbed off on his teammates from time to time.

There is absolutely no reason to start Casey Thompson. He's a 4th-year guy. The cake is baked.

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Sam made several h”holy shit that was a brain fart” mistakes that got herm fired.   Casey needs to run more

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

Which positional group is the worst? 

[HateYouAndMyself 828]

50 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

If you didn't start with Brewer, you're doing it wrong.

The lack of usage of Wiley blows my fucking mind. Maybe he can't catch a damned thing in practice but he seems to be reliable in actual games / scrimmages that fans and writers have access to. Dude is the single biggest mismatch we can create on the field next to only Worthy's raw speed and he is MIA every red zone trip. 

 

 

[Horn80 5978]

2 minutes ago, Atticus said:

Sam’s leadership was the only reason we won 10 games and beat Georgia in the Sugar Bowl. He damn near willed 2 of those TDs on his own

He probably would have beat OU in regulation if Herman didn’t go for OT.  I was done with Herman after he denied Sam the chance to go for the win after he so rightfully earned it

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

Just now, Atticus said:

Missing those passes shouldn’t cripple the offense though. He has to pick his spots better

Well yeah he drives me nuts when he has first-down-plus ahead of him and instead tucking and running he rolls the dice on our shitty receivers. And some of those drops were drivekillers and even game-changers.

Sark's anti-runinng QB doctrine might be to blame and if he's not willing to change that just because it's not part of his precious offensive philosophy, I take back all the nice things I've said about him and I say fire him at the end of this year. No coach should lock in on "their offense" if the tools you have on don't work on it. You can't build a cathedral out of cinder blocks, or public toilets out of pink granite. You work with what you have, and I am far from convinced Sark is doing that. Few do -- they just keep trying to cram square pegs in to round holes until their seat gets hot. 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Which positional group is the worst? 

I would say OL.  

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

7 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

He carried the team on his back to a Sugar Bowl win. I'm not sitting here arguing that Sam Ehlinger was amazing, just that he gave a shit about winning and that rubbed off on his teammates from time to time.

There is absolutely no reason to start Casey Thompson. He's a 4th-year guy. The cake is baked.

The reason is, starting Card would lead to hideous blowouts. He's nowhere near as savvy or athletic as Casey, which is not to say Casey is a Brady/VY hybrid. He would be a decent QB on a good team whose coaches built to his strengths.

[Capn81 372]

Bijan and Wotthy are the only answers here.

[Atticus 3892]

Sark has no problem with the qb running, he just doesn’t scheme it. He’s happy enough for Casey when he runs if it leads to positive things

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1 minute ago, Atticus said:

Sark has no problem with the qb running, he just doesn’t scheme it. He’s happy enough for Casey when he runs if it leads to positive things

Yet there were several moments where Casey could’ve run for a first down but chose not to

[Helobious 9393]

15 minutes ago, Atticus said:

Sam’s leadership was the only reason we won 10 games and beat Georgia in the Sugar Bowl. He damn near willed 2 of those TDs on his own

With the benefit of hindsight, I really do believe that Georgia just didn’t give a shit about that game now.

[bad_teammate 13018]

1 minute ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

The reason is, starting Card would lead to hideous blowouts. 

What's the logic here? What evidence do you have for this? Getting destroyed by an Arkansas DL that was in his face every down with a 3-man rush and 8 guys in coverage?

[Atticus 3892]

Yet there were several moments where Casey could’ve run for a first down but chose not to

There’s no way Sark prefers Casey to throw the ball across his body to a covered receiver downfield instead of getting positive yardage to set up a more manageable down and distance

[MotownHorn 1714]

19 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

How many crucial passes did our WRs drop today? It's not all on Casey.

The last pass to Washington was a first down if Casey just runs the fucking ball

Casey always tries to make the big play instead of taking what’s there. It’s why he initially lost the QB competition and why he sort of sucks. He’d be decent if he made better decisions instead of going for the big play every play 

[bad_teammate 13018]

Even if the only purpose is to light a fire under Casey, start Card next week.

[Royale with cheese 1421]

18 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

He's not a winner.

It's cliché and hokey, but the leader of a team needs to inspire his guys and Thompson does none of that and maybe even the opposite. There is no one who thinks, "Casey's got this." I don't see an offense that looks like it is ready to go to war for its QB. That OL is uninspired. I don't think he's a cancer or the guys dislike him, but it's damned obvious he doesn't fire them up or make them believe.

The downgrade at QB from Sam to Casey is fucking huge. Some here talk up passing stats and they're whistling past the graveyard. He does just enough to be safe (which keeps stats good, and I don't think that's WHY he plays the way he does).

Fuck stats. People need to shut up about his god damned stats. He's 3-3.

Regrettably, you are correct, sir. Casey is average. Overall, the whole squad is average, with obvious bright spots in Dijon and X. Still, average talent shouldn't be embarrassing itself like this, should it? Yeah, yeah--Parcels, I know. Still . . .