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Just now, Gatorubet said:

Led astray, yes….. but what can you do when a marriage-destroying temptress wearing a Dora the Explorer backpack comes on you?

Well....from what we've seen from these folks, get your mouthpieces in the press to take the position that "really, girls with Dora backpacks are pretty much women," and having their friends in various state legislatures introduce legislation to lower the age of consent.

It's fucking fascinating.  The whole movement went from "PEDOPHILIA IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE EVER!" to "well, really, when you think about it, all girls are women because they are born with vaginas and ovaries, so there's no such thing as 'minors' when females are concerned." 

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27 minutes ago, Js1 said:

427-1

1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

Senate just passed it by unanimous consent.

Surprise Omg GIF
 

But they all know it won’t be released - it’s now an active investigation again, which is why it wasn’t released before.

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A whistleblower who came forward to House Democrats alleging convicted sex offender Ghislaine Maxwell received preferential treatment at a federal prison camp in Texas says she was not motivated by politics.

Instead, “this was about common human decency and doing what’s right for all inmates,” Noella Turnage, a nurse who worked at Federal Prison Camp Bryan since 2019 until she was fired last week, told NBC News on Monday.

She added that when even one inmate is wrongly retaliated against, “and influence gets another one protected, somebody had to say something.”


Maxwell’s time at FPC Bryan, an all-women’s minimum-security facility, has come under scrutiny since her transfer there in early August from a low-security prison in Tallahassee, Florida. Her relationship with the late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein has become a focal point as Democrats and some Republicans renew their push to compel the Justice Department to make all investigative files surrounding Epstein’s case public.

Turnage said she was not driven by public outrage surrounding Epstein, Maxwell or any other public figures, but acted because she felt “failed by the institution” when colleagues and others have spoken out about alleged leadership misconduct and retaliation.


She said the federal Bureau of Prisons fired her on Nov. 10. The decision came a day after the top Democrat on the committee, Rep. Jamie Raskin of Maryland, wrote a letter to President Donald Trump saying they had received information from a “whistleblower” indicating Maxwell was working on filing a “commutation application” and receiving special treatment not typically afforded to inmates at Bryan. The information obtained by the House Judiciary Committee included email correspondence that Maxwell sent during her first few months at the prison camp.

Leah Saffian, an attorney for Maxwell, said Friday that employees at FPC Bryan lost their jobs in light of Maxwell’s emails being shared.

There have been employees “terminated for improper, unauthorized access to the email system used by the Federal Bureau of Prisons to allow inmates to communicate with the outside world,” Saffian said in a statement.

NBC News previously reviewed Maxwell’s emails which indicated she was “happier” with her move to a facility that was cleaner and where staff were friendly.

Maxwell’s emails also suggested she had direct access to Bryan’s warden, Tanisha Hall, for help, including arranging visits and communicating with her lawyers — actions that are highly unusual, other attorneys with clients at the prison say.

 

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In case anyone missed it, Amanpour was on The Daily Show this past Monday and had a really interesting conversation with Stewart about the state of journalism as it relates to the Epstein Files.

By my recollection, there's very little (if any) partisanship in the conversation. Instead, it's more about the power of journalism to uncover the truth, in general, and inform the public, specifically about who the brazen assholes are who were involved in the Epstein affair and think they're untouchable.

20 minutes. Good discussion.

 

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Posted
43 minutes ago, bolverk said:

uncover the truth, in general, and inform the public

Where the fuck was that a year ago? 

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Posted
Just now, Js1 said:

Where the fuck was that a year ago? 

That's what we've all been wondering, and it's part of the discussion. She's gets a little defensive about the actual journalists doing investigative work but agrees they're not getting the resources from their corporate overlords that they need. Of course, we should all recognize that those who are consolidating media ownership are tied at the hip to other powerbrokers and this regime. Basically, there's a whole class of individuals, regardless of party, who all think they're above the law and can operate with impunity. It's nothing we don't already know, but a good discussion nonetheless.

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Posted
23 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

Senate just passed it by unanimous consent.

Consent, eh?

4 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Not sure that I would hold up the Epstein saga as the exemplar of effective journalism. 

What about conspiracy to obstruct justice?

Posted
9 hours ago, Ghost of NMAS said:

Kash always looks like he's wondering "Where the hell am I"

That’s just him coming down from his morning coke binge 

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So if they start the investigation again and say it precludes release aren’t they admitting the reason the Biden Administration couldn’t release them? Not that any of the “dear leader is innocent because Biden would have released them” people would notice.

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Just so people are clear, the files are supposed to be released by December 19.

https://apnews.com/article/jeffrey-epstein-files-release-justice-department-32cbc21a6ae8189dccd00455dc83d2be

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The law, dubbed the Epstein Files Transparency Act, mandates the Justice Department to release all unclassified documents and investigative materials, including files relating to immunity deals and internal communications about whom to charge or investigate.

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However, the law also makes clear that no records shall be withheld or redacted — meaning certain parts are blacked out — solely because their release would cause embarrassment or reputational harm to any public figure, government official or foreign dignitary.

 

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So the House wants Hillary and Bill to testify next month.

https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-bill-and-hillary-clinton-must-appear-for-in-person-depositions/

Marjorie Taylor Greene is leaving Congress in January and returning to her home world.

The House won’t question Maxwell because her lawyer told them she will just plead the Fifth.

And we are just getting started. No idea how many of the files will be released in the next four weeks. 

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Our president/cult leader (and others apparently) grabs little girls by the pussy. This isn’t new news. Not a god damn thing will happen other than the republicans will grandstand and “investigate” some Dems.

 

Real fucking productive. 

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Epstein Estate releases new photos with Trump, Bannon, and Clinton
https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/12/politics/epstein-photos-trump-clinton-bannon


The photo with Trump and the blacked out women's faces is supposedly from the 1996 Miss Universe in Las Vegas at a party after Trump took ownership of the pageant. The women were contestants, and all 18+. I've seen an unredacted photo but someone said they used AI to remove the boxes.

No photos of anything illegal unless standing next to a criminal is illegal. If this is all they got, then they got nothing.

Interesting that the major news sites aren't posting the Clinton photo.
Posted
9 minutes ago, Modessit said:

If this is all they got, then they got nothing.

Lulz. Yes this is why hundreds of fbi logged overtime for a month in March looking for mentions of Trump. Also, this came from Epstein’s estate - it’s not what DOJ has

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Posted
5 hours ago, Modessit said:

Interesting that the major news sites aren't posting the Clinton photo.

 

 

4 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

I saw it on NBC and CNN. Not sure where you looked. 

 

Both the NYTimes and Associated Press have it up as well. Interesting that Modessit had to go conspiratorial on this news. Very aggy-like behaviors.
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Lulz. Yes this is why hundreds of fbi logged overtime for a month in March looking for mentions of Trump. Also, this came from Epstein’s estate - it’s not what DOJ has
If they had actual photos of a crime committed, they'd have it out there already. They're trying to go with the "guilt by association" angle, which will end up nowhere.
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I saw it on NBC and CNN. Not sure where you looked. 
 
Both the NYTimes and Associated Press have it up as well. Interesting that Modessit had to go conspiratorial on this news. Very aggy-like behaviors.
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I went to those sites by clicking on stories linked to the sites. None showed anything but Trump, Bannon, and Woody Allen. They referenced all 19 with links in the stories, but the links kept sending me to weird places, including DropBox for some reason. The story I found on CNN just had the Trump pic and referenced a Clinton pic but didn't include it.
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If they had actual photos of a crime committed, they'd have it out there already. They're trying to go with the "guilt by association" angle, which will end up nowhere.

Who is “they”? Only the DOJ has most of the files. Also, is “photos of the crimes being committed” the standard required to convince people? lol.

There’s a whole lot of space between photos of child rape and “guilt by association”.
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43 minutes ago, Modessit said:

None showed anything but Trump, Bannon, and Woody Allen.

You were defeated by what’s called a “slideshow” or a “gallery”.  Swipe the photos or click on them.  There were at least two AP stories that featured them. CNN keeps popping up a paywall and/or they are in video clips and I’m not going to deal with it.  
 

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Posted
52 minutes ago, Modessit said:

If they had actual photos of a crime committed, they'd have it out there already

The estate is not going to have any such photos because that’s illegal to own.  The DOJ swept all of those up.  

Trump campaigned last year on releasing the files. In February his AG claimed to have a list of clients on her desk. Then he said there were no files or lists or whatever. But he released something to influencers.  Which was tame stuff.  Then Congress finally forced his hand. Then he ordered the DOJ to investigate again, most likely to tie up a lot of files as evidence.  

 

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Although there is probably significant overlap, we need to differentiate between what the Estate has and what the DOJ has.  

The Estate is presumably a collection of Epstein's memorabilia, not evidence collected as part of a criminal investigation.  As such, it may be freely released, subpoenae'd what-have-you.

Knowing what a weird fuck Epstein was (see above), his Estate may contain evidence of a crime, or maybe not.

The DOJ stuff is evidence collected in a criminal investigation.  It potentially could be withheld subject to an ongoing criminal investigation, whether real or concocted.

Despite what happened with Epstein's first prosecution, I find it very difficult to believe that DOJ is in possession of "smoking gun" evidence of a crime other than by Epstein and Maxwell, who were prosecuted.  That includes CSAM implicating Trump, Clinton, or anyone else.

Most of it is association and innuendo stuff, I'm relatively certain.  Some of it, like Trump's birthday card, weirder and more sinister than others.

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