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The bar stuff is the area that is killing me - way overpriced. There are only about 3 manufacturers of drawer under counter refrigerators with ice maker and they are all $3500 minimum. I have limited space so I don’t really want to go with a refrigerator and separate ice maker. Plus, the cheapest separate units are Thor and Sapphire and they both come to about $3500 for both. The only other way to go is a refrigerator and countertop ice maker. I don’t have much knowledge of the countertop I’ve makers but the two highest rated ones GE Opal 2 and Gevi are about $500 so I wouldn’t save much money. 

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5 hours ago, Texzilla58 said:

Some of y’all live with some tiny ass refrigeration. I am not a French door fan. Got a 26’ sxs in the kitchen plus a 26’ sxs in the garage. And a 15’ upright freeze.

Some of us are better planners.

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Fridge died yesterday and it's 15 years old so probably not worth fixing and I've wanted a new one for a while anyway. Have a 42" space.

WTF

How is it I can get a 36" wide 28cuFt for $1100 but a 42" wide 24cuFt is $10,000?

And why can't I get a 42" wide 30 cuFt?

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37 minutes ago, blacklab said:

Fridge died yesterday and it's 15 years old so probably not worth fixing and I've wanted a new one for a while anyway. Have a 42" space.

WTF

How is it I can get a 36" wide 28cuFt for $1100 but a 42" wide 24cuFt is $10,000?

And why can't I get a 42" wide 30 cuFt?

It confused me also. It seems like I am better off with a 36” space for new construction. The built-ins are better quality, but you can buy 4 non-built ins for the price of 1 built in and get more space to boot. Seems like the only reason for built ins is to impress your guests who you never have over. 

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19 hours ago, blacklab said:

Fridge died yesterday and it's 15 years old so probably not worth fixing and I've wanted a new one for a while anyway. Have a 42" space.

WTF

How is it I can get a 36" wide 28cuFt for $1100 but a 42" wide 24cuFt is $10,000?

And why can't I get a 42" wide 30 cuFt?

42" will get you a 24" fridge and an 18" freezer column fridge.  Just don't look at the price tag...

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Fridge died yesterday and it's 15 years old so probably not worth fixing and I've wanted a new one for a while anyway. Have a 42" space.
WTF
How is it I can get a 36" wide 28cuFt for $1100 but a 42" wide 24cuFt is $10,000?
And why can't I get a 42" wide 30 cuFt?

And both will keep your milk at the same 34 degrees. $10k should get you a walk in, but it don’t.
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On 3/15/2023 at 9:32 PM, Born to Run said:

Lot of truth here, we get lemons with every brand and because models evolve so quickly its hard to product research with any consistency. By the time the gremlins show up they've already modified the appliance and you are at year two with a piece of shit.

Make sure whomever is supplying the appliances has a great install team especially if you are doing inset or cabinet doors on the appliances. I won't use Fergusons in Austin for this. It's a painful disaster

Generally

Sucks: LG everything, Samsung fridges, anything Jenn Aire, I don't really fuck with lower end. GE Cafe is all over the place on quality and reliability.

Decent: Kitchenaid.

Usually Awesome: Bosch/ Thermador dish washers. The clean incredibly well and dry better if you open after cycle or have one that opens on its own- which most Miele do, and clean well. Most Miele have been reliable but a few problem models. Sub Zero is usually incredibly reliable. I just serviced a 48" that finally needed a compressor- I installed it in 2004. Bluestar has great customer service and I've had no issues with them so far.

If not Ferguson, who do you recommend for installs? 

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My fridge died after 12 years so I bought a new one last week. Not high end cause I don’t give a shit but I was happy to find out that they now make fridges with two ice makers. One in the door and large one in the lower freezer. It’s the simple things like never running out of ice that make me happy.

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7 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

Anyone have experience with Miele dishwashers? We were going to go with Bosch 800 but Miele has new incentives where we get a dishwasher for free if we buy the 48" range and steam oven.

Mine is perfect. No issues at all.

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9 hours ago, CooterBrown said:

My fridge died after 12 years so I bought a new one last week. Not high end cause I don’t give a shit but I was happy to find out that they now make fridges with two ice makers. One in the door and large one in the lower freezer. It’s the simple things like never running out of ice that make me happy.

Wait until one breaks 

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Anyone have experience with Miele dishwashers? We were going to go with Bosch 800 but Miele has new incentives where we get a dishwasher for free if we buy the 48" range and steam oven.
We like ours, but hasn't even been a year yet. Seems like a no brainer if it's free though, right?
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10 hours ago, CooterBrown said:

My fridge died after 12 years so I bought a new one last week. Not high end cause I don’t give a shit but I was happy to find out that they now make fridges with two ice makers. One in the door and large one in the lower freezer. It’s the simple things like never running out of ice that make me happy.

Mine — not high end and also a brand oft-maligned here for refrigerators — also has two ice makers: one that makes largish “cubes” and one that makes smaller ones. Combined with my countertop nugget ice maker, we definitely have enough ice and none of them are in-door. 

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13 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

Anyone have experience with Miele dishwashers? We were going to go with Bosch 800 but Miele has new incentives where we get a dishwasher for free if we buy the 48" range and steam oven.

No complaints with the dishwasher. Really love the range and will always have a 48 going forward. The steam oven is pretty awesome, we just don't get much use out of it. 

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7 hours ago, Okie State said:
16 hours ago, Chewbacca said:
Anyone have experience with Miele dishwashers? We were going to go with Bosch 800 but Miele has new incentives where we get a dishwasher for free if we buy the 48" range and steam oven.

We like ours, but hasn't even been a year yet. Seems like a no brainer if it's free though, right?

Yeah, I figure if it craps out, I'll just replace it with Bosch.

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Yeah, I figure if it craps out, I'll just replace it with Bosch.
Yep. I think the Miele and Bosch models are both the smaller European designs too so I would think they are easy to swap out. The American models are a little larger.
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On 8/23/2023 at 5:29 PM, Okie State said:
On 8/22/2023 at 10:23 PM, Chewbacca said:
Yeah, I figure if it craps out, I'll just replace it with Bosch.

Yep. I think the Miele and Bosch models are both the smaller European designs too so I would think they are easy to swap out. The American models are a little larger.

its the girth that counts

had a seemingly inexplicable issue with a 1-week old Miele 7 series dishwasher, replacing a troublefree Bosch.  i had to snake out the drainage pipe and now everything functions fine again. is it coincidence that years of operation with the bosch never ran into a clog?

my main criteria for buying dishwasher was a function to automatically open and the vent the door after the cycle.  good for running machine overnight and not having moisture reaccumulate on the dishes

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6 hours ago, 52-80 said:

my main criteria for buying dishwasher was a function to automatically open and the vent the door after the cycle.

I need to look into this.

Fucking hate the Asko that we currently have.  It literally doesn't dry anything so being there to unload the dishwasher is important or everything is musty.  pisses me off.

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1 hour ago, Incredulity said:

I need to look into this.

Fucking hate the Asko that we currently have.  It literally doesn't dry anything so being there to unload the dishwasher is important or everything is musty.  pisses me off.

Bosch has it.  The biggest complaint I ever see with Bosch is the lack of drying.   Since it’s so quiet, we run it at night, and it pops open around 0100 or so. Everything is dry when I unload in the AM, no musty anything or residual water. Also, it’s not an issue at all unless you have plastic ware. When we no longer had little babies, the problem completely went away.  Before that, you’d just sandwhich each plastic plate between the porcelain plates and the heat would dry them.  

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About to replace the kitchen at the beginning of next year.  

My wife is set on Monogram stuff, anyone have experience with them?  I know it's GE's high end and it has great reviews.

I will say I just replaced an LG dryer with a SpeedQueen DR7004WE and it's incredible.  I'll be buying the matching washer as well.  

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